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  1. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    I'm a Mavericks fan and if we had a Draymond on our team we'd be competing night in and night out just due to his presence.  In professional sports though, just because someone is a leader doesn't mean they aren't expendable.  And it definitely doesn't mean they are the best player on the team.
  2. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    I have not once disagreed with that.  But that still doesn't mean he does more than Klay.  I think Draymond is the heart of Golden State.  He's just not better than the other 3 of the Big 4.  That's a really good problem to have right now.
  3. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    NBA analysts, sports writers, old players.  They all can't be crazy too right?
  4. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    I love a good NBA discussion.  And I understand Draymond resonates with the kiddos a bit and that's great.  I love Draymond too.  Every team needs a player like Draymond, but when this Warriors team breaks up, he'll probably be the first to go.  I for one think that is a bad idea because he's...
  5. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    This here.  No need to take something personal if someone doesn't share your opinion.  I do want to respectfully say in my humble opinion John Wall is not comparable to Steph Curry, but Curry is in a much nicer situation 
  6. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    Come on.  That's a copout.  It sounds like you're taking it personal for some reason.  These are our opinions and I don't share that opinion that Draymond is the most valuable.  A lot of people don't share that opinion.  Being the best leader doesn't make you the most valuable on the team...
  7. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    Curry vs Wall is not a debate but the hiearchy of the Warriors is definitely up for the debate.
  8. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    After Lebron and Kawhi, I'm not putting Draymond as the 3rd best player in the NBA.  I can't do that.  I think the Warriors have 3 other players better than him.
  9. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    I absolutely agree 100% with that.  Which is why I don't think the leader in this case is more valuable.
  10. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    They did that.  Dray shoots from the top of the arc and Bruce and Tony both lined up on the side of the arc.
  11. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    A lot of the offense goes through 3 and Ds.  That's pretty much where the term swingman comes from.  I think there is confusion that I'm knocking Draymond because I love Draymond, but he does not do more than Klay.  And he's not as valuable as Curry and Durant.
  12. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    Outside of this thread I've never heard anyone say Draymond was more valuable than Klay.  He's always been referred to as the expendable of the 3 or 4 if you include Durant.  I don't think any of them are expendable because if you break them up as they are now, they will fall behind the Spurs.
  13. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    I just don't understand.  Draymond a great player but he's a 3 and D through and through.  
  14. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    Klay on any given night can be just as good as Curry offensively.  We've seen on plenty of occasions where he's been the best offensive player on the court.  And we've seen when he's been the best defensive player on the court.  Curry doesn't have to guard the Westbrooks of the world.  Or the...
  15. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    I just want someone to break it down to me how Draymond is a more valuable player than Klay Thompson.
  16. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    What does Draymond do that Tony Allen and Bruce Bowen didn't?  Even the jumpkicks are the same.
  17. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    Curry can't even guard the elites at his position.  Klay guards positions 1-4. 
  18. tornadoflame

    Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

    It's not a bad thing.  Tony Allen is a DPOY.  Klay does way more for the Warriors than any other player.  Top to bottom.  Any night he can turn into the best player in the NBA.  Draymond can't.  Curry can't.  Durant can't.
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