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  1. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    FWIW, it looks much better than my deadstock pair that I posted a pic earlier.
  2. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    How'd you get the cement pattern on the inside lining?
  3. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    FYI, if you paid with PayPal and want to make a return to a store, the stores can't credit back to PayPal.
  4. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    That's more than disappointing.  You would think that technological advances over the years would figure how to resolve this issue. How are the leather areas of the toe box holding up?  I think many of us would like to see pics of the creases from normal wear.
  5. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    I wouldn't worry about it.  Maybe if they have a local store you could return it.  The shoes probably cost less to manufacture than it is to ship.
  6. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    Actually, this shoe is still deadstock.  Does this imperfection bother anyone to the point of not being acceptable?  I'm still trying to decide myself.  I plan to wear them semi-regularly (once or twice a week), so if normal wear and tear will make this unnoticeable, I'm OK with it.  I bought it...
  7. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    Mine was stuck at open too.  I called a CSR and they said it was on hold until I confirmed payment info.  It would have been nice if they explained it more clearly that they were waiting for me to do something.   
  8. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    This photo proves that the 2016 Jordan Retro IV's upper is indeed real full grain leather.  You just don't find this kind of unique grain texture on fake leather.
  9. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    I'll take Nike's word over the NBA store.
  10. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    For the record, the 2016 Jordan IV Retro features a "full-grain leather upper for durability and comfort."
  11. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    Thanks, but my laces weren't tied like this.  Did these shoes come in two different knots?
  12. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    Does anyone know if there's a video showing how to tie the shoelace knot of these shoes that came from the factory?  I tried searching on YouTube, but I couldn't find this specific knot.
  13. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    It happened to me last year.  NDC will refund after a week of investigation and also offer a promo code. Don't let this happen to you.  Have it shipped to an address where a person will be available to accept the package.
  14. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    If that's a flat surface, shouldn't all the shoes stand perpendicular to the surface?  At least 4 look crooked to me.  Maybe it's an optical illusion due to the camera angle...
  15. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    That sucks.  Unfortunately, I know how you feel.  I had a pair of Js stolen too about a year ago.  Thieves can spot the Nike boxes a mile away.  I have shipped all valuables to my work every since. Nike will refund your payment and give you a promo code, but it's not anywhere close to make up...
  16. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    My guess is that they noticed the system glitch of doubling orders and cancelled them out of panic.  My order on Sat. morning was doubled erroneously and they cancelled both orders.  At some point they probably realized that cancelling both orders was an overreaction and they started just...
  17. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    I recommend investing in some real cedar shoe trees.
  18. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    Any suggestions for socks that go well with this shoe when wearing shorts?
  19. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    Me too since EastBay's system doubled my order and caused it to cancel. 
  20. golf grouch

    Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

    But considering that the Jordan 4 Retro Baseball Cleats retail for $95, it does seem that the price is a bit much.  Wouldn't the baseball cleats cost more to manufacture?  The profit margins at $220 must be astronomical.
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