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There's the toros

Both for 485$

I'm asking what they worth

Bout at a local convention toro 4's and gamma 11's for 485$ good deal or no? I realize the 23 in the back of the shoe is sketchy but from what it have seen and heard that's normal for the shoe. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Slight creasing in toe area, around ankle and back upper rubber other than that they are in nice condition. Bought in 2011, hardly worn.