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i feel that the 2012 version is definetely better hands down material and even shape wise. im sure many others agree. is the 2012 bred retro 4's version durabuck though? material is better than my cdp 4's

Not sure if someone shared the info yet but supposedly these have been pushed up to July 13 instead of October.. Link http://*************.com/news/air-jordan-retro-iv-4-fire-red-toro-release-date/