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Thanks for that -all good info. Luckily these aren't super hard to come by ( or expensive on the resale market ) so my next pair of KO's i'll be sure and use the angelus stuff. They look kind of cool faded but it will bother me so I'll probably only wear them to the gym now lol I could rit dye...

... Too late now. They're basically dark grey at this point If that's how easily the color goes I'll stick to leather AJ1s from now on. I was cleaning the soles and just a bit of soapy water dripped onto the canvas and even after trying to get it out with a clean wet rag and filtered water...

The royals tend to fade or haze up whenever you try to clean them. How do you get rid of that ? I've barely worn them and when I was cleaning the soles some of the water got on the black canvas and even after I got it off it still left them looking really faded looking. Any idea how to fix this ?