- 43,629
- 8,621
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2005
I left out Tashard for a reason.
I don't think he's gonna be there next year.
I don't think he's gonna be there next year.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: this_feature_currently_requires_accessing_site_using_safari
Eh, if it's an uncapped year next year you cut Roy, chalk it up as a mistake and move on... Can't run around scared with receiversforever...Originally Posted by CP1708
Dallas can't really afford to mortgage all that for a WR though can they?
But Jerry gave up a ton for Roy, now do it again for Dez? He tryin out for the Lions GM or something? I don't see it.
What else you want to see?Originally Posted by dreClark
Wow.
Romo, Dez, Miles Austin (still not 100% sold on him, but whatever), Martellus, Whitten, Felix the Cat and Barber
I feel you... The DoubleJs Defense.Originally Posted by dreClark
1 more year of this performance and I will believe. One more year, when defenses have a good year of game film, KNOW he is the #1 WR, and plan accordingly. Then I'll believe. One year just doesn't do it for me.
Proshares wrote:
Not sold on Miles, I'm not sold on Jones staying healthy. Sounding like Marley right now.
Don't do that... One Marley on 3 or 4 usernames is enough...
Were you one of the many Boys fans that were 100% convinced Hurd was better than Miles?
Felix FINALLY looks like his knee is right... I think Saturday was EXACTLY what everybody thought this kid was gonna be when we drafted him... He's got nohistory of injury aside from last year and what kind of carried over to this year, so I see no reason to believe he's gonna be a constant injury concern...
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
I feel you... The DoubleJs Defense.Originally Posted by dreClark
1 more year of this performance and I will believe. One more year, when defenses have a good year of game film, KNOW he is the #1 WR, and plan accordingly. Then I'll believe. One year just doesn't do it for me.
I don't think game film is gonna make him any easier to bring down after the catch, though...
True....But game film could aid in stopping him from getting the ball in the first place
I agree... I always thought he'd eventually contribute as a deep threat, but I never thought he'd be a #1 guy... He's probably not bea 1200+ yards and 10+ scores year in and year out kinda guy, but I think he's definitely arrived as a quality NFL starter...Originally Posted by Proshares
Oh no, I was just countering was Dre said about being not sold on Miles. I've always liked Austin and thought before the season started he'd be an excellent slot receiver but never thought he'd put up the numbers he put up this year.
True....But game film could aid in stopping him from getting the ball in the first place
We'll see... It'll be interesting to see how teams adjust to him and how he adjusts to them... He did go through that lull halfway throughthe year, but he's played very well against some good secondaries the last three weeks and he's seen some doubles and had coverage rolled his way..
Big thing with Miles has always been hands... They haven't been a problem AT ALL this year, kinda interested to see if that's for real or anaberration...
And all this, again, shows why Dallas can and probably should do something to bring in another high-caliber young guy to help carry some of the load... I thinkDoug Free's play this year gives some breathing room to the tackle situation, though OL is still fairly pressing, so receiver appears to probably be the #1priority... Crayton and Roy are decent enough, but you gotta get another playmaker in here...
Yes... Assuming the uncapped year, he'll lose unrestricted status and have the restricted tag, though... I'd assume he'll befranchised regardless, though I don't exactly know how that works with the uncapped scenario...Originally Posted by CP1708
Is this a contract year for Miles?
I agree... I always thought he'd eventually contribute as a deep threat, but I never thought he'd be a #1 guy... He's probably not be a 1200+ yards and 10+ scores year in and year out kinda guy, but I think he's definitely arrived as a quality NFL starter...
Yeah, see that's what I don't 'believe', at least right now, about Austin. That he is a clear cut #1 1200/10 NFL receiver year inand year out. I have no doubt that he can be a quality slot man.
If he does it next year, then more power to him.
Sorry for the slight interuption to the draft discussion. Carry on, Dez to Miami, etc etc.
This guy....I see CP still ain't anywhere nearflaccid regarding Dez.
The biggest negative for players is that it'll affect a lot of the guys coming up for free agency... Under the uncapped system, guys coming upon their 4 years of NFL service (eligible for unrestricted FA) will have that pushed to restricted status because under the uncapped system, players have tohave 6 years of service before they're eligible to hit the open market... So guys like Miles Austin, Elvis Dumervil and Brandon Marshall will miss out onan opportunity to cash in on an open market and their paydays will potentially be limited or pushed back another year or more...Originally Posted by RoOk
Can anybody tell me what a uncapped year means? Like i know basically the concept of it but why is it a little bad for players?
[h2]Bowl risers and fallers[/h2] [h3]How players who shined or struggled in the postseason have changed their draft statusEmail Share [/h3]
By Mel Kiper
ESPN Insider
Archive
Dexter McCluster is small, but he fits a recent trend in the NFL. Some now view his size as a possible advantage.
The bowls gave us a last glimpse at a number of guys that we expect to see drafted in April. Let's go through some of the performances that stood out to me, and I'll also give an early draft grade for these guys. Obviously, the all-star games and testing could shake these up.
Risers
Dexter McCluster -- Ole Miss
Talk all you want about McCluster's size -- or lack thereof -- but the 5-foot-8, 165-pound dual-threat speedster carried the ball 34 times against Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl, and also caught five passes. After not getting a lot of carries earlier in the year, McCluster proved his toughness, and versatility, with so many touches; he had 44 catches to go with the 181 rushes this year. The fact is in this day and age teams want multiple backs and varied offensive threats, so McCluster is heading to a league that can use him. He could even see action as a slot receiver. I have him with a second-round grade, though he'll need to run well to overcome all the usual questions.
Possible position: Second round
O'Brien Schofield -- Wisconsin
Schofield is just always in the backfield, and he was again in the Champs Sports Bowl, notching two more sacks against Miami and some good tackles. How productive is this guy? He was just a half tackle behind Brandon Graham for the national lead in tackles for loss. I see Schofield as an outside 'backer in a 3-4 scheme. Think of a Clay Matthews-type, with a great motor as a pass-rusher. Best thing about Schofield: Even when a sack isn't in the cards, he's always active in chasing down the play. I think the second round is now a possibility.
Possible position: Second round
Mike Iupati -- Idaho
This guy is one of the stories of the year. He used to play defense, and sometimes you can see that, because he likes to deliver the blow, not just absorb it. The guy moves like he's 275 pounds, which is a serious compliment when you're 6-5, 330 pounds. He can pull, trap, get to the second level, and in the Humanitarian Bowl, just dominated. Guards don't go too high, generally, but he may have solidified second-round status, and you can plug him in from day one.
Possible position: Second round
Jason Pierre-Paul -- South Florida
Hard to say this guy will rise a lot more -- he could land in the top 10 as it is -- but many are still getting familiar with this guy, and he had another solid game in an easy win over Northern Illinois. Long arms, great wingspan, gets off blocks instinctively and quickly. He's raw, but he could be a premier pass-rusher.
Possible position: High to mid first round
Dan Williams -- Tennessee
Solid game in a loss to Virginia Tech. He had nine tackles out of the DT position, which is a fantastic total. Williams is just so strong in the lower body, and appears to be steadily improving. He doesn't grade quite as high as Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy, but with them you're talking about top-five picks. Williams is a rising talent.
Possible position: Mid to low first round
Robert Johnson -- Utah
Johnson has excellent instincts and the speed to cover all over the field. He's a former junior college All-American, so he has less exposure, but the tape is solid. He had an INT in Utah's win over Cal, which makes 13 in two seasons. I don't think he's as big as his listed 200 pounds (closer to 190) but teams need safeties who can cover.
Possible position: Third to fifth round
Fallers
Corey Wootton -- Northwestern
The bottom line with Wootton is he's still not back completely from a nasty knee injury suffered in last year's Alamo Bowl. Still, scouts will begin to wonder if he can be the same player he was last year. He dropped from 10 sacks to four, and 16.5 tackles for loss to just five from his junior to senior years, and was invisible in Northwestern's bowl loss to Auburn. He needs to get completely healthy and hopefully proves his once extremely athletic looking 6-7, 280-pound frame is truly back.
Possible position: Fourth to fifth round
Nobody questions Brandon Spikes' productivity, but his speed is a concern.
Brandon Spikes -- Florida
Spikes is always productive -- I've just always had questions about his speed. There was a play in the Sugar Bowl when he was pursuing Cincy QB Tony Pike and simply couldn't chase him down. It's just one play, but Spikes has plays like that -- they stick with you. I call it a red-flag play. He's a guy whose 40 time will say a lot. Earlier this season I had him ahead of Bama's Rolando McClain, but I see McClain as way ahead now. On the plus side, again, Spikes is always productive, and he's a fiery leader.
Possible position: Second to third round
Devin Ross -- Arizona
The shocker with Ross is here's a guy I have listed at 5-10½ and maybe a shade more than 170 pounds, and he led Arizona in tackles. Problem is, at that size, he can't even be cast as a safety, and nobody is drafting him to be a tackling machine. He has to cover, and in the bowl loss to Nebraska, he struggled again. He got beat by speed guys, and that's a big concern.
Possible position: Fourth to sixth round
Zac Robinson -- Oklahoma State
He had high hopes for this season, but Robinson was just average in 2009, and had a terrible game to finish the season, with four INTs in the Cotton Bowl loss. Just remember, he lost Dez White, which really hurt, a year after Brandon Pettigrew also left for the NFL. Still, Robinson didn't look like an NFL QB. There are guys that went undrafted last year like Brian Hoyer and Graham Harrell, and Robinson fits there based on what we've seen.
Possible position: Seventh to UFA
Kam Chancellor -- Virginia Tech
Chancellor could be a tweener. He's 6-3, 226 pounds, so he might be just too small for LB, but not athletic enough to cover effectively as a safety. He's not fluid in coverage, and while he's a good athlete and could test out well, coverage is key.
Possible position: Third to fifth round
Originally Posted by venom lyrix
which direction to the Giants go? D-Line? Corner? Safety? WR?