2019-20 NFL thread: Thread's dead. Move into spacedoodoo's

IATT · Jul 17, 2019

hand2handking said:

Clyde Frog said:
Fair enough. But Russ is not guaranteed to have top 5 production this year despite his talent.

And I’d blame the OC

But if I had my choice of anyone for next season right now for without factoring in team or contract, I’d take dude 2nd after mahomes

Brady has to drop off at some point but for a season I’d put him 3rd still

Just because the injury concerns, then I got Rodgers, cam and then wentz

Then luck (can’t put him higher til I see his arm stronger) and then rivers

Then I got brees.. and then I guess Matt Ryan

checks grossman · Jul 17, 2019

Id question whether some of y'all watch games or just check box scores and highlights but I don't really wanna do that right now

Clyde Frog · Jul 17, 2019

Considering what I saw from Luck last year I think he’s poised to wreck this year. Thinking about it he’s actually my pick for MVP this season. Which I guess makes him number 1 on my list.

Coming up with those rankings is kinda hard lol. You could sit there all day justifying reasons why someone should be moved up or down which then causes chain reactions.

aNYone · Jul 17, 2019

Yea Luck is back and they finally did him right with that oline.

I could seen him having an MVP year.

champcruthik · Jul 18, 2019

Ain't even anti-Steelers, just puttin' the battery in

DeadsetAce 's & @rolaholic's backs.

IATT · Jul 18, 2019

spacedoodoo · Jul 18, 2019

champcruthik said:
Ain't even anti-Steelers, just puttin' the battery in DeadsetAce 's & @rolaholic's backs.

CP1708 · Jul 18, 2019

It's funny the spin now.......

Russ literally did NOTHING in playoff games and would win. 9 completions vs Saints. 100 yards no TD's up by 29 vs the #1 offense in SB (THEN he adds two cheap TD's). 4 INT's vs Packers. Wins em all. Beats the Vikings when their kicker misses from the damn goalline. :lol:

Now, "he has nobody" and he's still getting credit........and not winning anything.

That's fantastic. Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Phil Rivers, Andrew Luck, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers need that same bulletproof backing I guess.

IATT · Jul 18, 2019

spacedoodoo · Jul 18, 2019

CP1708 said:
It's funny the spin now.......

Russ literally did NOTHING in playoff games and would win. 9 completions vs Saints. 100 yards no TD's up by 29 vs the #1 offense in SB (THEN he adds two cheap TD's). 4 INT's vs Packers. Wins em all. Beats the Vikings when their kicker misses from the damn goalline.

Now, "he has nobody" and he's still getting credit........and not winning anything.

That's fantastic. Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Phil Rivers, Andrew Luck, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers need that same bulletproof backing I guess.

Russell Wilson in 2019 is not the same Russell Wilson from 2014

spacedoodoo · Jul 18, 2019

Same dude that would get on his knees for luck when he was a walking turnover, winning 8 games in the worst division in football and getting blown out in the playoffs not winning anything :lol:

100027 · Jul 18, 2019

Russell Wilson has been making winning plays for the Seahawks his entire career, including his rookie season. Especially when the team has never given him a winning o-line, including making plays with his legs. It’s about more than counting stats (and his counting stats his first few years were fantastic and record setting in many cases).

BuddyHield · Jul 18, 2019

CP1708 said:
Tiers, no order:

Rodgers, Luck, Brees, Brady, Ben, Rivers

Ryan, Mahomes, Wilson, Cam,

Stafford, Watson, Wentz, Goff, Baker, Dak, Carr,

Everyone else.

Lmfaoooo
Meth needs to check you into concussion protocol

Clyde Frog · Jul 18, 2019

DeadsetAce · Jul 18, 2019

Clyde Frog said:

SpittaJetLife · Jul 18, 2019

Dan Lebatars going in on trump

IATT · Jul 18, 2019

SpittaJetLife said:
Dan Lebatars going in on trump

Explain

Maximus Meridius · Jul 18, 2019

Clyde Frog said:
My rankings/projections for this upcoming season:

Rodgers
Luck
Rivers
Ryan
Brees
Brady
Mahomes
Wentz
Russ
Big Ben
Cam
Watson
Cousins
Stafford
Mayfield
Carr
Dak
Goff
Winston
Trubisky
Mariotta
Dalton
Darnold
Lamar
Flacco
Murray
Foles
Rosen
Eli
Haskins
Jimmy G
Jake Allen

Matt Ryan over Mahomes?

Dak over Goff?

Clyde Frog · Jul 18, 2019

My reasoning is after an unbelievable rookie season Mahomes takes a step back his sophomore year. Not unreasonable to think, he’s young.

And I think Dak and Goff are both dependent on what’s around them. Gurley’s load will he reduced with his chronic knee issues. Cowboys have a solid offense around Dak this season. Dak goes as Zeke goes and they have a nice WR corp with Cooper, Gallup is nice, and Cobb if he stays healthy which I think he will.

IATT · Jul 18, 2019

Mahomes wasn’t a rookie...

Clyde Frog · Jul 18, 2019

Lol oh yeah you’re right. His first season starting. Point remains. There’s film on him now and he lacks experience.

IATT · Jul 18, 2019

i mean, even if he drops to 10-15% of what he was last season.. that's a pretty good season

let's say his season is 85% of what his 2nd year was, that gives him: 4,332 yards and 42.5 passing TDs

MVPs have literally been won with less

Clyde Frog · Jul 18, 2019

I mean, I still have him listed pretty high

Maximus Meridius · Jul 18, 2019

Even if Mahomes takes a step back whats that 35 TD's instead of 50? He's better than Matt Ryan. Imagine if Mahomes had a monster like Julio to throw to. Lawd.

And Dak is literally the same QB since his rookie year. No improvement at all and he's turned the ball a lot the last 2 years. While Goff has improved a lot.