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i know. i messed up with that one. i meant to say some branches of science mislead us. but it is our duty to investigate and make our own conclusion NOT what a book or publisher states. that was my point. religion hates being corrected, that is why i oppose most, if not all religions.Originally Posted by Dame Theory
Originally Posted by Ryda421
some science is manipulated/misleading @ times. read this link.
http://webcache.googleuse...mp;source=www.google.com
also, i remember when so called atlantis was found in the carribean, chile and some part in japan. NATGEO bought all the rights and only showed a little of the truth. which is was sad. also, NASA (scientists) is/are becoming a misleading tail of science. but one thing i do enjoy is that truth always comes out and that i can agree with you.
i believe there is a creator because the randomness of being here and how 'weird/coincidental' things just happen. it kind of leads me to a past life theory but it has not been proven.i don't want to feel special, i know i'm not special. therefore i do not believe in being special. i live for the moment and i believe that tomorrow is a whole new world so you are mistaken on that part.
i'm not just speaking of amazonian tribes. some south american countries (chile,peru,columbia) original 'religion/faith' before 1492 tell stores of their origins and they speak of UFO's coming from the sky and drop creatures off. i wish i could find the video but it was on a public channel i believe the show was called globe trekker. i will look for it.
exactly, that is my point. there has to be life someone where else. life is not only carbon/oxygen based. there is so much we do not know. i just hope that i'm alive when that discovery is made. CHEERS !
First of all stop saying "science" as if its one monolithic thing. One person's false claims do not represent the entire academic community just like one suicide bomber does not represent all muslims. I'm smarter than that and you should know this too. I know science gets it wrong, but it tries. Religion doesn't care if it gets it wrong, it just keeps getting it wrong and doesn't care to change, nor will it admit when its wrong. The Pope JUST OK'd condoms. And they finally forgave galileo like only in 1993 dude. Religious leaders know their power and hate to be proven wrong. Scientific pursuit doesn't have this ego, or nowhere to that extent.
You still think this was created? There is so much wrong with the design of things. Plus, since you think its created...how would you CREATE it differently? You only know what was "created" in the realm of what you've witnessed...so how can you say things are perfectly designed? Things work well because they work in the realm the work in. You've got this delusion that since it works well that it was made to work well...that simply isn't true. Just because it works it satisifies what YOU want it to do. What if the point of fire isn't for warmth but for us to just look at? Its like saying...hey look at how tall those trees are...they must be that tall because they just work so well...Or maybe they're just TALL. Thats it. Stop looking for a reason for everything and instead look at HOW they work, not just the fact that they work. Your concept of "random" is defined in only what you witness. If i told you to improve the design of the body you'd basically come up with some stuff that just doesn't exist. The ability to fly, laser eyes, super strong bones, mind-reading. You ever wonder why we can't do that? Why didn't we get that design? What about our fingers? How do we know that we're supposed to have 5 and that rather we just have 5 fingers. We could just as easily have 6 or 4. It doesn't matter. You say its designed but this design has tons of flaws. Cancer? Autosomal disease? Block arteries? broken bones? wisdom teeth? Ectopic pregnancy? We have to ingest vitamin C from our environment and its not produced internally. Wings on flight-less birds like ostriches. Congential disease? The pharynx that controls breathing and swallowing as a choking hazard. Why not two channels? The vestigal tail in humans? Introns in our DNA? Look into things like arguments from a poor design. There are tons more.
There already are stories of pre-columbian visits to the new world. I've heard them. Both outer worldly and human. Some say the chinese visited way before. Who cares? That doesn't relate to a God or any divine principle. It just means our historical time-table could be off by a bit.
The existence of life on another planet worries me because those that believe in god would say "well look god made other creatures too" instead of saying "holy crap, we're not that unique...maybe god doesn't exist"
actually, i do believe in mind reading/communicating aka telekinesis. you ever wonder why sometimes you can predict the future or predict someones thoughts. because we all have it. but we are so out of touch with our true senses that it is impossible for us to unlock that part of our brain. Humans have a lot of potential but we are so tied into this 'reality' that we lost touch with our spiritual side. and that is what i believe this world was intended for. how is that animals have these internal compasses in their head we do not. because they are in tune with the natural side of life. that is why ZERO animals died during that tsunami in 2004.
most diseases that you speak of are man made. imagine this. before europeans landed in the americas there was literally no disease. and that is how a lot of indigenous americas died. because they had zero immunity to those diseases. why ? because most diseases brought here were carried by humans who were infected through animals aka poultry,red meat. so in other words, you can say indigenous americans were more healthy than europeans before they 'first' made contact. i understand what you are saying, but nothing is created to perfection. even the things we make. the universe is not perfect so therefore how can we be ?
as i was writing this, imagine if SCIENCE is the new religion. not that it's a good thing or a bad thing, but what if ? i mean in the beginning (from what we know) humans believed in magic, then religion, and now science, what if this is the phase ?
true. i really believe that vikings visited the americas before. that is why the aztecs and mayans thought the prophecy was fulfilled when the Spaniards landed and began to give away gold
yup that is true. i really like how hawking stated that alien contact would forever alter our existence. can not wait until that happens
