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Again, the testimony is just HIS version of the events. It's not the indisputable word of god. Nobody should be using it as some sort of facts factory. It's not.
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Yeah they dug pretty far huh.Mannnnn, no one saw this coming when he sold the movie to Fox? I didn't know it would be rape, but I knew it would be something.
They dug til they found something. Being famous is a gift and a curse.
Dude who posted the testimony from the guy... How did you gather she was unconscious from that? The guy stated that the girl wasn't even drunk and on top of that said the room was dim and only lit with a small blue light. So he didn't see her move but it's not like he had a clear visual. But anyway dude said the girl wasn't drunk from what he saw, so how she end up unconscious? She left the living room went to mates room on her own and they heard and saw them having consensual sex... And then she ends up unconscious?? Huh??
I haven't read much of the evidence...
But a young black college (read: broke) dude is accused of rape by a young white women and gets acquitted??
There has to be a substantial amount of evidence for that to happen.
Like, a STRONG has defense.
It's not a comparison. The point is to highlight just a few of the many inconsistencies that people throw out to defend rapist, rape culture, and patriarchy more generally.
Just not a legal rapistIt's not a comparison. The point is to highlight just a few of the many inconsistencies that people throw out to defend rapist, rape culture, and patriarchy more generally.
If you're found innocent, are you a rapist?
Ah back to this. What's beyond a shadow of doubt to you? A video of the assault? How do we prove someone was raped?I've seen way too many instances where black men are thrown behind bars for practically all their life based on false rape accusations. So yall will have to forgive me if I don't believe every time a woman calls rape. I need to be sure beyond a shadow of doubt before I join any pitchfork mob.
You guys are some weird dudes.
I couldn't tell her level of intoxication = she wasn't drunk?
you believe the testimony when he says he wasn't drunk, but you don't belive him when he says she was motionless?
having sex with a women who he appeared to be motionless means he saw them having consensual sex?
okay buddy.
That's not even my point, i'm no here to re litigate Nate Parkers case,
I'm telling you he put himself in a grey situation and is now subject to the whims of other people interpretation. The price he's paying is fair.
um.....a rape kit! Check for brusing and wounds! DNA testing!Ah back to this. What's beyond a shadow of doubt to you? A video of the assault? How do we prove someone was raped?
My only question is why is this coming out now? Why not during Redtails or the Great Debaters?
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Because it's a race film and controversy begets controversy.
Nate Parker directing and acting in a film about Nat Turner is somewhat hypocritical.
qhoops my writing was bad,
1. I did not mean to imply the it was a "fact" the idea that she commited suicide becuase of Nate's actions.
I'm saying that he had sex with a women under dubious circumstances and it looks very bad. and her suicide makes it looks worse, criticsm and dissection should be expected and is competently warranted.
2. Obviously women shouldn't have sex with drunk when either but
a. were talking about nate a man
b. women don't have the power over power drunk men into having sex. so avoiding a rape charge and not having sex with drunk women looms larger for man.
AGAIN
I did not paint him as a sinister anything, in fact i said the EXACT opposite.
I can totally believe that Nate was a young dude who was driking and didn't have and didn't really understand the importance of concent and then did something he shouldn't have.
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um.....a rape kit! Check for brusing and wounds! DNA testing!Ah back to this. What's beyond a shadow of doubt to you? A video of the assault? How do we prove someone was raped?
And furthermore I don't like your line of thinking. Because every man is guilty until proved innocent in your eyes. That's a dangerous mindset to have. Because essentially any woman can claim rape on any man they feel like. And that man's rep is tarnished forever. Otherwise why have a court of law if no matter the outcome that person will always be guilty to you
He didn't say she was motionless, he said he didn't see her moving at the time in a dark room, he also said her legs were in the air while Parker motioned for them to come in the room with his left hand...So how were both of her legs up if she's unconscious and Parker isn't holding them up?
Because it's a race movie that paints whites in the most heinous of lights possible. Those other two movies were during the segregation period, which probably isn't considered as bad as the time of slavery.
Both those movies were race related, albeit a lesser degree.
Dat dere back peddle.
Because I want the justice system to work? Because I actually want people to be proven guilty in a court of law before I convict them in the court of public opinion?A rape kit tells us nothing besides sex occurred. Not every rape involves bruising or wounds. So again, what proves rape without a shadow of a doubt to you? I don't like your line of thinking. Leave it up to you there would be a lot more rapists free.
Are you going to say how to prove rape without a shadow of a doubt? Or is seeing a hickey on a women's thigh enough for you?View media item 1877143A rape kit tells us nothing besides sex occurred. Not every rape involves bruising or wounds. So again, what proves rape without a shadow of a doubt to you? I don't like your line of thinking. Leave it up to you there would be a lot more rapists free.
Because I want the justice system to work? Because I actually want people to be proven guilty in a court of law before I convict them in the court of public opinion?
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when he saw her she did not move...she was without motion...uh motionless seems like a good adjective.
and if you can't figure out how a woman legs could be up and you could motion with one hand, I can't help you.
all of this is besides the point . he's still taking a fair L.
all of this was handled so bad.
What? How else are rapes proven? I just told you how. DNA evidence. Or is someone's sole testimony enough for you?Are you going to say how to prove rape without a shadow of a doubt? Or is seeing a hickey on a women's thigh enough for you?
Let's try this again. You said you aren't convinced that a black man raped a white woman unless there's no shadow of a doubt. I asked you what does no shadow of a doubt mean? Your response:What? How else are rapes proven? I just told you how. DNA evidence. Or is someone's sole testimony enough for you?Are you going to say how to prove rape without a shadow of a doubt? Or is seeing a hickey on a women's thigh enough for you?