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Bruce Bowen Retires
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by rickfoxjr,
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dude gave us some good years. i'll never foget you bruce "flying drop kick to the face" bowen...............i'll never forget.
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to saltinewarrior...exactly he shoots too much jumpshots and three pointers thanks for clearing it up...what else can he do?...taking jumpshotsthats not really adjusting your game is it buddy?....how about playing some defense?....how about back to the basket?...how about that?...vince carter is notan elite player simple as that...not hating on vince...hes just not a complete player you guys rate him to beOriginally Posted by AIRJORDAN JB23
Originally Posted by SaltineWarrior
All you do is watch the Lakers because Vince Carter has a jumpshot. He still has bounce left in his legs. He adjusted his game to compensate for what he lost. He rarely takes it to the basket anymore. What games are you watching?Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
Originally Posted by TCERDA
Originally Posted by SaltineWarrior
Overrated. He was an elite player for a while. Some of the things said in Sports and Training are ridiculous. Bowen did the same thing to Ray Allen as well.
Elite Player. Hes decent. Not a complete bum, but I think most people have his flashy dunking mistaken for being elite. He's not a complete player. Not even close bro.
word...vince carter is an incredible athlete but he relies on it too much...he hasnt adjusted his game to fit his age since he has lost a bounce or two...
VC over time has relied more on the jumpshot because of the fact he has gotten older. What SG hasn't done this? Jordan has, Kobe has, name a SG who has aged... they've done it.
As for being an elite player... he was & still is. Look up the stats. How you average 20, 5, & 4 this past season & nto be elite is beyond me. Averging 23, 5 & 4 for his career isn't elite?
Judging an elite player you have to look at numbers, & his are there. While VC's team success hasn't been great his whole career, that doesn't mean he autimatically isn't an elite player.
I'd consider him a complete player. Early in his career, he was a dunker... & known for his dunking (obviously). Over time, his numbers & team success have gotten better. While the dunking slowly lessened over time, the all around game developed more.
Anyway, as for Bowen... Never was a fan. His retirement doesn't matter much to me.
bowen...hes the type of guy you love if you had him on your team but hate if he isnt
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Bowen was a great defender!
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Thanks Brucey for the memories, u have allways been a defensive monster on the court and a class act off...Never was too good for the average fan...
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Upon further review, pass.
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Half the people who are happy Bruce Bowen is leaving are mostly Laker fans
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I always hated how he undercut when a player would shoot a J.
Glad he's gone
Glad he's gone
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largest bruce bowen thread ever.
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Nope. This dirty prick:
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Say what you want, but Bruce Bowen brought the defense.. no matter how or what, its all part of the game.
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I wish Bruce Bowen would kick me in the face.
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the McNulty of the NBA. Know u in some @%+$, smell it, but act like u aint. I'm glad he retirin. Has to be the dirtiest player to every playthe gameOriginally Posted by pdouly33
Dahntay is on the Pacers now...
I always hated that face he gave to the refs...kind of like this but more "What did I do?"
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Who's Nash gonna guard on the Spurs now?
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Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
to saltinewarrior...exactly he shoots too much jumpshots and three pointers thanks for clearing it up...what else can he do?...taking jumpshots thats not really adjusting your game is it buddy?....how about playing some defense?....how about back to the basket?...how about that?...vince carter is not an elite player simple as that...not hating on vince...hes just not a complete player you guys rate him to beOriginally Posted by AIRJORDAN JB23
Originally Posted by SaltineWarrior
All you do is watch the Lakers because Vince Carter has a jumpshot. He still has bounce left in his legs. He adjusted his game to compensate for what he lost. He rarely takes it to the basket anymore. What games are you watching?Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
Originally Posted by TCERDA
Originally Posted by SaltineWarrior
Overrated. He was an elite player for a while. Some of the things said in Sports and Training are ridiculous. Bowen did the same thing to Ray Allen as well.Elite Player. Hes decent. Not a complete bum, but I think most people have his flashy dunking mistaken for being elite. He's not a complete player. Not even close bro.
word...vince carter is an incredible athlete but he relies on it too much...he hasnt adjusted his game to fit his age since he has lost a bounce or two...
VC over time has relied more on the jumpshot because of the fact he has gotten older. What SG hasn't done this? Jordan has, Kobe has, name a SG who has aged... they've done it.
As for being an elite player... he was & still is. Look up the stats. How you average 20, 5, & 4 this past season & nto be elite is beyond me. Averging 23, 5 & 4 for his career isn't elite?
Judging an elite player you have to look at numbers, & his are there. While VC's team success hasn't been great his whole career, that doesn't mean he autimatically isn't an elite player.
I'd consider him a complete player. Early in his career, he was a dunker... & known for his dunking (obviously). Over time, his numbers & team success have gotten better. While the dunking slowly lessened over time, the all around game developed more.
Anyway, as for Bowen... Never was a fan. His retirement doesn't matter much to me.
bowen...hes the type of guy you love if you had him on your team but hate if he isnt
wow these dudes hating on VC buncha lames, not complete?? WHAT? 2 seasons ago there was only 3 players in the NBA 20,5,5 and it was VC KOBE LEBRON, and VCmissed it by a hair this past season....and no post game??? ive watched 80% of all his games and let me tell you he has the best post game inorlando.......hell VC even plays PG even when kidd was on the floor
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I can't. Bruce kicked me in the mouth during a pickup game and I can't talk.
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good defense though
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wow these dudes hating on VC buncha lames, not complete?? WHAT? 2 seasons ago there was only 3 players in the NBA 20,5,5 and it was VC KOBE LEBRON, and VC missed it by a hair this past season....and no post game??? ive watched 80% of all his games and let me tell you he has the best post game in orlando.......hell VC even plays PG even when kidd was on the floor
to be a complete player you play on the both ends on the floor...vince carter doesnt do that...you guys give me these numbers yadda yaddayadda...has he been named to the defensive team?...you watch 80% of his games ehh and he has the best post game in orlando?...hows that possible when he hasntplayed a single game in an orlando uniform?...oh btw to become a complete player you must not give up on your team...which vince did in toronto...very complete player huh?
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just noticed, he looks like a black-bald Borat
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i thought he looked like a bald ludacris
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Yup. I can't honestly say that I'll miss his presence in the league. I respect his defense and hard work to make it to the league, but Inever could stand the guy.
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to be a complete player you play on the both ends on the floor...vince carter doesnt do that...you guys give me these numbers yadda yadda yadda...has he been named to the defensive team?...you watch 80% of his games ehh and he has the best post game in orlando?...hows that possible when he hasnt played a single game in an orlando uniform?
Granted he's not going to be named DPOY... check the matchups with Kobe against the Nets. More times than not Kobe's numbers are low that game in termsof scoring the basketball. Again, VC isn't the greatest defensive player in the league... but when it comes time he has been known to play defense. He hasin the past did a great job on the defensive end on SG's.
VC giving up on Toronto? That's a whole other story. Just know the power of editing does wonders....
In early January 2005, he stated during a television interview with TNT's John Thompson to not giving effort in his last months as a Raptor; when asked if he always played hard, Carter replied, "In years past, no. I was fortunate to have the talent. You get spoiled when you're able to do a lot of things. You see that you don't have to work at it."[sup][2[/sup] Though Carter's comments were perceived by Raptors fans as his confession to not giving his all as a Raptor,[sup][21][/sup] Thompson said the comments were misinterpreted, saying, "That boy never said to me, 'Coach, I just laid down and quit.' ...I was embarrassed and felt awful about it for his sake, because I knew what he was communicating to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Carter
What star player... (or should I say elite player), wouldn't want to play on a winning team? & would takefrustrations of losing every season? There have been many others in the same situation who have done similar. The power of editing put him in a bad spot.
This past season & the year before when the team was out of the playoffs, he still gave it his all on playing hurt. When he needed surgery or when he couldhave simply sat out, he didn't. That's not quiting on the squad.
Anyway, back to Bruce Bowens retirment,
