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its gotta be the cavs. gotta be 2010
Damn bro I hate to break it to you since I know your a TRUE Cavs fan, but summer 2010 is gonna be the worst summer ofyour life.
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its gotta be the cavs. gotta be 2010
Damn bro I hate to break it to you since I know your a TRUE Cavs fan, but summer 2010 is gonna be the worst summer ofyour life.
Son, you're wrong on so many levels.Originally Posted by SHUGES
Originally Posted by Scottsauce88
And as a Laker (Kobe?) fan, YOU are so predictable. Fall back.who said im a lakers fan? or a kobe fan?
I understand, your an AI stan. You have to spend your days proving to yourself that AI is better than Kobe so you constantly find ways to rag on Kobe. I am almost willing to bet that you spent at least half an hour finding that video which is pretty sad seeing as it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Everyone: "Lebron is classless for just walking out like that"
You: "Its Ok because Kobe did it four years ago. See, I have the vid to prove it.to you guys"
When the Cavs came back out after halftime, Howard was practicing free throws. As he walked toward Cleveland's bench, injured forward Lorenzen Wright(notes), dressed in a suit, jumped up and grabbed the net and tried to knock out one of Howard's shots.
Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt
Originally Posted by true 3 blue
Originally Posted by JD617
Nice to see how well those shirtless games of HORSE prepared them for this series.
i cant help but agree, but most of the hate probably comes from the media making such a big deal of those shots.Originally Posted by peep the kicks
Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt
Originally Posted by true 3 blue
Originally Posted by JD617
Nice to see how well those shirtless games of HORSE prepared them for this series.
omfgFTL
EnEyeKayEe, where you at?!Originally Posted by finnns2003
Originally Posted by finnns2003
just thought i'd throw this out... i saved this sometime ago. a quote, from EnEyeKayEe
Cavs fan checking in (I'm unbiased)...this series is the #*$@! I can't remember the last game I watched that was as entertaining as game 2 LMAO ...since KG & Jameer Nelson are hurt, we're basically on cruise control till The Finals (I won't even mention that sorry +!* "team" from down south ). Here's to more HARD FOULS, techs, dudes acting hard when they are soft as baby poop (i.e. Luke Walton), & most importantly GREAT HOOPS. May the best team wintake a seat young man.
Son it's people like you that are wrong.Originally Posted by RavageBX
Ya'll are so eager to hate on LeBron its pathetic. If you worked to get something your entire life and fell just short of it you might not want to talk to anybody other than your teammates either. And it's not a matter of money, respect, persona or any of the other bs that's been mentioned in here. It's about Bron being human. Ya'll expect demand too much from him. Especially his haters. Nothing he does right is ever good enough and everything he does wrong is unnecessarily magnified. It would've been nice if he shook hands and spoke to reporters. Does it make him a bad person because he didn't? No. With all the crass garbage I've seen in the NBA over the last few years this flies so far below the radar it's hardly worth mention.
If it weren't for Odom and Gasol, the Lakers wouldn't have gotten to the Finals.
Don't forget Ariza. Both Gasol and Ariza these playoffs > any player LeBron had.
If LeBron had Kobe's supporting cast in the two losses in games 1 and 3, there is no way the Cavs would've lost = fact. I can't blame his teammatesfor this particular loss tonight, but if they had shown up in games 1 and 3, then tonight might not have been a day where the Cavs were out of the playoffs,but a day where they were resting for the NBA Finals.
@ the logic that Kobe's better than LeBron because he made the finals. The very same Kobe fanboys who got sand in their Kob-gina when Paul Pierce saidthat he was the best player in the league when he won last year. But when they can use this logic to advance their Kobe fanboyism, then they're all for it.
For the conference finals
Kobe Bryant.........48.1% FG, 34.4% 3P, 93.1% FT
Lebron James....48.7% FG, 29.7% 3P, 74.5% FT
How about creating plays for your team....
Kobe Bryant........ 35 ast, 13 T/O, 2.7 A/T
Lebron James....48 ast, 25 T/O, 1.9 A/T
Kobe used 48 possessions to create 35 assists... a success rate of 73%
Lebron used 73 possessions to create 48 assists... a success rate of 66%
Also... Lebron shouldn't complain about his supporting cast as they weren't much worse than Kobe's:
Kobe' supporting cast.......... 50.0% 2P, 36.1% 3P, 76.8% FT
Lebron's supporting cast.... 49.9% 2P, 32.3% 3P, 74.7% FT
Dude, I don't know where you get the courage to mention stats. Do you really want to go there? I would've just mentioned LeBron's 35, 9 & 7averages these playoffs, but since you like the fancy overanalyzing stats, how about this one: LeBron had a player efficiency rating of 38 these playoffs. Thehighest PER Michael Jordan ever had over a playoffs is 32. Kobe has a PER of 27.
The bottom line is that LeBron is the best player in the league and is better than Kobe. Not better than Kobe eventually, he's better than Kobe today. Heplays on a horrible team with a horrible coach. Kobe plays on a great team with a great coach. In a Lakers-Cavs series where you take out both Kobe and LeBron,you're looking at a Lakers sweep, 4-1 tops. The Heat and the Thunder are the only two teams in the league who rely on a single player more than the Cavs.The Cavs are garbage and would've lost to the Celtics as well. They're not going anywhere next year either. LeBron has a great shot at repeating as theMVP though. He should just worry about individual accomplishments next season, because he's not going anywhere with these bums. In 2010, he needs to signon a team with Chris Bosh and finally get himself a legit #2 man after 7 seasons. Then he can seriously focus on winning championships.
Originally Posted by 731balla
Son it's people like you that are wrong.Originally Posted by RavageBX
Ya'll are so eager to hate on LeBron its pathetic. If you worked to get something your entire life and fell just short of it you might not want to talk to anybody other than your teammates either. And it's not a matter of money, respect, persona or any of the other bs that's been mentioned in here. It's about Bron being human. Ya'll expect demand too much from him. Especially his haters. Nothing he does right is ever good enough and everything he does wrong is unnecessarily magnified. It would've been nice if he shook hands and spoke to reporters. Does it make him a bad person because he didn't? No. With all the crass garbage I've seen in the NBA over the last few years this flies so far below the radar it's hardly worth mention.
He is a professional. He needs to act like one. While in the lime light he is all for shaking hands and interviews. It should be the same after a loss.
You act like everyone else in the NBA isn't "worked to get something your entire life and fell just short of it."
Every players dream is to win a ring. Every player has worked all there lives to get to the NBA one way or another.
LeBron is not the exception.
Yet most players find it within them to do the right thing after a loss and congratulate the winning team.
It is a thing of Gentlemen.
While I can understand what you mean when you mention the LeBron haters in here, there is some basis to what they are saying regarding this subject.
I am no LeBron hater. Dude has MAJOR talent. With that said, I'm in the group that CAN'T stand what the media and all this LeBron glorification.
Like already stated, he could at least congratulated his Olympic teammate.
As a man he should of recognized that just like him, Dwight also wants a ring and lead his team to the final.
To conclude. Tell me this...
If some of the most idiotic, blinded, annoying, jock riding, Cleveland fans on Niketalk come on here and give Orlando props even though they lost, that does that say about LeBrons actions.
Some of the kids knew how to man up.
Yet LeBron cant do the same?
Come on now.
And yet some want to defend that?
Getting Millions to be a professional comes with great responsibility.
You must know how to WIN.
Hes proven to know how to do this since HS.
And you must know how to LOSE.
Tonight he didn't demonstrate how to do so.
I got you point.Originally Posted by RavageBX
^You missed the entire point of my post. I didn't say he wasn't wrong. I said he's human. He should've manned up and shook hands, etc. But ya'll are riding him like this makes or breaks who he is as a basketball player. For the most-part Bron has carried himself with grace and humility far beyond his age. One time he slips up and people are ready to label him as a punk, sore loser, selfish, fake or crybaby. IMO its not that serious.
Originally Posted by true 3 blue
Why would he be shaking hands with the Suns?
They hate each other
The league won't dare fine their golden child ...Originally Posted by TheYoungestGun
y'all making a big thing out of nothing. so what he didnt give every a hug or congratulated them. it's not the end of the world. so he felt bad. and he didnt want to talk to the media. he'll get fined for that, cause it's something you have to do, or get fined by the league.
he should have had more sportsmanship to give the magic players some love, but he didn't. get over it. this is nothing that can damage his image. he's just a player that had his dreamseason ended. mvp, best record in the league, it doesnt mean a thing when you lose
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
If it weren't for Odom and Gasol, the Lakers wouldn't have gotten to the Finals.
For the conference finals
Kobe Bryant.........48.1% FG, 34.4% 3P, 93.1% FT
Lebron James....48.7% FG, 29.7% 3P, 74.5% FT
How about creating plays for your team....
Kobe Bryant........ 35 ast, 13 T/O, 2.7 A/T
Lebron James....48 ast, 25 T/O, 1.9 A/T
Kobe used 48 possessions to create 35 assists... a success rate of 73%
Lebron used 73 possessions to create 48 assists... a success rate of 66%
Also... Lebron shouldn't complain about his supporting cast as they weren't much worse than Kobe's:
Kobe' supporting cast.......... 50.0% 2P, 36.1% 3P, 76.8% FT
Lebron's supporting cast.... 49.9% 2P, 32.3% 3P, 74.7% FT
Dude, I don't know where you get the courage to mention stats. Do you really want to go there? I would've just mentioned LeBron's 35, 9 & 7 averages these playoffs, but since you like the fancy overanalyzing stats, how about this one: LeBron had a player efficiency rating of 38 these playoffs. The highest PER Michael Jordan ever had over a playoffs is 32. Kobe has a PER of 27.
The bottom line is that LeBron is the best player in the league and is better than Kobe. Not better than Kobe eventually, he's better than Kobe today. He plays on a horrible team with a horrible coach. Kobe plays on a great team with a great coach. In a Lakers-Cavs series where you take out both Kobe and LeBron, you're looking at a Lakers sweep, 4-1 tops. The Heat and the Thunder are the only two teams in the league who rely on a single player more than the Cavs. The Cavs are garbage and would've lost to the Celtics as well. They're not going anywhere next year either. LeBron has a great shot at repeating as the MVP though. He should just worry about individual accomplishments next season, because he's not going anywhere with these bums. In 2010, he needs to sign on a team with Chris Bosh and finally get himself a legit #2 man after 7 seasons. Then he can seriously focus on winning championships.
I hate quoting things without saying anything, but you've said pretty much what I wanted to express with that.
Ariza was key in clutch moments, but Odom was HUGE in the last few games for the Lakers, and Gasol did it all series.