Colin Kaepernick Is Righter Than You Know

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Miss me with your "social democracy" phrasing. Spinning Rusty is back in rare form. You're a socialist that hates our democratic and capitalist values and you want America to more like Europe.


Is that not the case?

Listen time and time again I have made peace with you and stopped calling you names, time and time again you come out your mouth with red herring and name calling.

If you don't know what a term is, ******* Google it.

Never once have I said you hates black people or America, so I refuse to tolerate is garbage from you

But miss me with you petulance and your trolling bull ****.

If I really step into you, you're gonna be playing victim within two post. So pick how you want this exchange to play out
 
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Nationalism teaches you to take pride in **** you haven't done and hate people you've never met.
 
Listen time and time again I have made peace with you and stopped calling you names, time and time again you come out your mouth with red herring and name calling.

If you don't know what a term is, ******* Google it.

Never once have I said you hates black people or America, so I refuse to tolerate is garbage from you

But miss me with you petulance and your trolling bull ****.

If I really step into you, you're gonna be playing victim within two post. So pick how you want this exchange to play out


You still didn't answer the question. Do you or do you not want America to be a socialist country like many other European nations?
 
Rico and Ninja are what happen when Stephen from Django Unchained start listening to Raggateon and reading Hayek

dont u got some American flag burning to do? :lol:

-My DR flag and lighter fluid comes in the mail on Friday b

And of course you know if we start talking economics it will end with you looking stupid and calling me names

So why not just skip to the end
 
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Listen time and time again I have made peace with you and stopped calling you names, time and time again you come out your mouth with red herring and name calling.

If you don't know what a term is, ******* Google it.

Never once have I said you hates black people or America, so I refuse to tolerate is garbage from you

But miss me with you petulance and your trolling bull ****.

If I really step into you, you're gonna be playing victim within two post. So pick how you want this exchange to play out


You still didn't answer the question. Do you or do you not want America to be a socialist country like many other European nations?

I answered you ******* question already

You chose to come at me with more insults.

You want to end with now, or should I really start to go in on you?
 
Not sure if posted.

Some profound words from a Vet

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

I've been away from the internet all day.

I came home from a family picnic on the Blackwater River to find my inbox, as usual, overflowing like a ripe Port-O-Pottie.

One of the first messages I read was about 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, quoted above, who last Friday night at the beginning of a preseason game suddenly decided to become the most hated man in America du jour by deliberately not standing for the National Anthem.

Yes, that's right, a football player didn't stand for the National Anthem.

As you know, this means Kaepernick is scum, a horrible human being, a likely member of ISIS, a Muslim terrorist, a black thug, a communist, a socialist (and not the cool share your weed Bernie Sanders kind of socialist but the Red Brigade kind of Socialist who sleeps under a poster of Chairman Mao), a radical, a Black Panther, and he probably has Fidel Castro's phone number in his contact favorites.

Yeah. Okay.

I answered the message and went on to the next one.

The next message was about Kaepernick. As was the next one. And the next one. And...

They all begin pretty much the same way: Jim, AS A VETERAN, what do you think about this? Well?

Let me answer all the messages at once
__________

AS A VETERAN, what do I think about Colin Kaepernick's decision to sit during the National Anthem?

As a veteran?

Very well, as a veteran then, this is what I believe:

The very first thing I learned in the military is this: Respect is a two-way street. If you want respect, true respect, sincere respect, then you have to GIVE IT.

If you want respect, you have to do the things necessary to earn it each and every single day. There are no short cuts and no exceptions.

Respect cannot be compelled.

Respect cannot be bought.

Respect cannot be inherited.

Respect cannot be demanded at the muzzle of a gun or by beating it into somebody or by shaming them into it. Can not. You might get what you think is respect, but it's not. It's only the appearance of respect. It's fear, it's groveling, it's not respect. Far, far too many people both in and out of the military, people who should emphatically know better, do not understand this simple fact: there is an enormous difference between fear and respect.

Respect has to be earned.

Respect. Has. To. Be. Earned.

Respect has to be earned every day, by every word, by every action.

It takes a lifetime of words and deeds to earn respect.

It takes only one careless word, one thoughtless action, to lose it.

You have to be worthy of respect. You have to live up to, or at least do your best to live up to, those high ideals -- the ones America supposedly embodies, that shining city on the hill, that exceptional nation we talk about, yes, that one. To earn respect you have to be fair. You have to have courage. You must embrace reason. You have to know when to hold the line and when to compromise. You have to take responsibility and hold yourself accountable. You have to keep your word. You have to give respect, true respect, to get it back.

There are no short cuts. None.

Now, any veteran worth the label should know that. If they don't, then likely they weren't much of a soldier to begin with and you can tell them I said so.

IF Kaepernick doesn't feel his country respects him enough for him to respect it in return, well, then you can't MAKE him respect it.

You can not make him respect it.

If you try to force a man to respect you, you'll only make him respect you less.

With threats, by violence, by shame, you can maybe compel Kaepernick to stand up and put his hand over his heart and force him to be quiet. You might.

But that's not respect.

It's only the illusion of respect.

You might force this man into the illusion of respect. You might. Would you be satisfied then? Would that make you happy? Would that make you respect your nation, the one which forced a man into the illusion of respect, a nation of little clockwork patriots all pretending satisfaction and respect? Is that what you want? If THAT's what matters to you, the illusion of respect, then you're not talking about freedom or liberty. You're not talking about the United States of America. Instead you're talking about every dictatorship from the Nazis to North Korea where people are lined up and MADE to salute with the muzzle of a gun pressed to the back of their necks.

That, that illusion of respect, is not why I wore a uniform.

That's not why I held up my right hand and swore the oath and put my life on the line for my country.

That, that illusion of respect, is not why I am a veteran.

Not so a man should be forced to show respect he doesn't feel.

That's called slavery and I have no respect for that at all.

If Americans want this man to respect America, then first they must respect him.

If America wants the world's respect, it must be worthy of respect.

America must be worthy of respect. Torture, rendition, indefinite detention, unarmed black men shot down in the street every day, poverty, inequality, voter suppression, racism, bigotry in every form, obstructionism, blind patriotism, NONE of those things are worthy of respect from anybody -- least of all an American.

But doesn't it also mean that if Kaepernick wants respect, he must give it first? Give it to America? Be worthy of respect himself? Stand up, shut up, and put his hand over his heart before Old Glory?

No. It doesn't.

Respect doesn't work that way.

Power flows from positive to negative. Electricity flows from greater potential to lesser.

The United States isn't a person, it's a vast construct, a framework of law and order and civilization designed to protect the weak from the ruthless and after more than two centuries of revision and refinement it exists to provide in equal measure for all of us the opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The United States is POWER.

All the power rests with America. Just as it does in the military chain of command. And like that chain of command, like the electrical circuit described above, respect must flow from greater to lesser FIRST before it can return.

To you the National Anthem means one thing, to Kaepernick it means something else. We are all shaped and defined by our experiences and we see the world through our own eyes. That's freedom. That's liberty. The right to believe differently. The right to protest as you will. The right to demand better. The right to believe your country can BE better, that it can live up to its sacred ideals, and the right to loudly note that it has NOT. The right to use your voice, your actions, to bring attention to the things you believe in. The right to want more for others, freedom, liberty, justice, equality, and RESPECT.

A true veteran might not agree with Colin Kaepernick, but a true veteran would fight to the death to protect his right to say what he believes.

You don't like what Kaepernick has to say? Then prove him wrong, BE the nation he can respect.

It's really just that simple.

 
I did not insult you at all. These grade school playground tactics are beneath you and are not conducive to constructive dialogue.
 
Can you imagine how ROTTEN the US would be if the only people living here were the "if you don't like it you can get out" type ?
 
I did not insult you at all. These grade school playground tactics are beneath you and are not conducive to constructive dialogue.


You tell me I hate America, call me a socialist (which was meant in a derogatory manner), and calling me "Spinning Rusty" and you want to open your mouth about playground tactics

Man miss me with this nonsense

Like I said, only thing you add to a dialogue is petulance and playing the victim when someone puts you in your place
 
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All those perceived "insults" pale in comparison to the house negro insults you constantly use to attack black people that disagree with you.
 
Rico and Ninja are what happen when Stephen from Django Unchained start listening to Raggateon and reading Hayek

dont u got some American flag burning to do? :lol:

-My DR flag and lighter fluid comes in the mail on Friday b

like i said, dont u got a American flag to burn? cuz clearly u aint bout da stars & stripes :lol:

Dude, you just make yourself look stupid with the tap dancing purity test nonsense.

But but I guess when you can't think of a witty comeback, repeating yourself is one way to go
 
Can you imagine how ROTTEN the US would be if the only people living here were the "if you don't like it you can get out" type ?
Even if you leave murica would just follow. Country just cant help but meddle in everyone's affairs.
 
like i said, dont u got a American flag to burn? cuz clearly u aint bout da stars & stripes :lol:

You support Trump

He constantly tells us that that America is in the crapper

Yet, you also seem to believe that anyone who points out the negative aspects of this country is anti-American and would be better off in another country

How do you reconcile these two things?
 
Just dropping in if it hasn't been said yet but any one saying "well you should leave this country if you hate it so much" look here if every minority left and took all that which there ancestors built, this country would be the size of a fingernail.

Why would any minority leave this country that there family helped build and shed blood for and lost lives for. My place is here, why. Becuase I walk on the grounds my ancestors build with no restitution.
 
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my question is why doesn't kaep donate his entire salary this year towards charities that help minorities and their communities? that would be taking a real stand instead of doing this.

Kinda seems like a publicity stunt to me, kaep is washed up
 
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I'm all for people staying. But if you hate America, why would you want to remain here? Especially if there are other countries that already have the **** you champion for over here.
 
Can you imagine how ROTTEN the US would be if the only people living here were the "if you don't like it you can get out" type ?

Not to mentioned that if everyone that didn't indulge in the extreme nationalism did leave right away that the economy would contract so quick that the country would go into a massive recession, our national security would be weaken to the point that we could be invaded and America would no longer be the world power that it is.

But lets keep on saying ridiculous **** like :smh: :lol:
 
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I'm all for people staying. But if you hate America, why would you want to remain here? Especially if there are other countries that already have the **** you champion for over here.

So if take issue with certain aspects of society you hate the country? Just say what you really mean.
 
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