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Dude was basically begging to rob and kill him for a week straight...
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u was right.Originally Posted by DajonDondo
i got chills... good post OP. now we play the waiting game until WSHH borrows it for their site.
Originally Posted by DajonDondo
u was right.Originally Posted by DajonDondo
i got chills... good post OP. now we play the waiting game until WSHH borrows it for their site.
who said anything about a 45? and it was'nt the shooters car that he could "identify" it was the kid that got shots car driving away to a chop shop
Im pretty sure he was just saying you cant trust anyone..Originally Posted by wHo NicE as HiM
@ryair max 1
how does your story even parallel with ross's ARM being blown off,
blasted in the rib cage coughing up buckshots and being banged in the dome piece?
Originally Posted by wHo NicE as HiM
@DimesLikeHefner
im sayin though, like this is ross story. kid got blow to bits and he's talking *@!# his light weight adventures
let that boy ross cook in this thread
Originally Posted by wHo NicE as HiM
@ryair max 1
how does your story even parallel with ross's ARM being blown off,
blasted in the rib cage coughing up buckshots and being banged in the dome piece?
This is an incredible story of strength, will power, and faith in people. Trust I am taking nothing away from anything Ross went through.Originally Posted by wHo NicE as HiM
@ryair max 1
how does your story even parallel with ross's ARM being blown off,
blasted in the rib cage coughing up buckshots and being banged in the dome piece?
Originally Posted by FinallyFamous
AWESOME VIDEO! That is insane how he survived all of that. Dude is a warrior.
You guys are saying the friend is the one that shot him? Did he say that and I just missed it or what?
Originally Posted by sillyputty
at all this "god" talk...
Let the kid live and be happy that he is alive.
@ god is SO good.
So if god is so good, how did this happen?
God let him get
A. Taken advantage of and disappear for 3 days
B. Get his body blown to bits
C. Made him completely unrecognizable to emergency medical team
D. made it necessary for modern medicine to KEEP HIM ALIVE when he would have died 100 years ago...unless god's powers "evolve" ...
E. made it necessary for medical technicians to even be trained in the first place
F. made him go to COURT instead of god "striking down" or doing whatever gods do to people who wrong others, but oddly get left up to the "justice system"
G. Makes the kid lose years of his life due to being shot.
H. God made the kid mentally unstable for years and years to come???
I. ODDLY GOD GETS THE CREDIT FOR THE KID BEING THANKFUL?!?!
If your god is all powerful and all knowing then god KNEW that the kid would have all of this happen to him and furthermore, created the circumstances for the kid to even get harmed by another kid who god KNEW would harm the victim.
So either we have free-will or we don't...
Either your god can do everything or he/she/it can't
or
he/she/it can be everywhere or can't
or
he/she/it can know everything or he/she/it does not.
Then your god is not as infinitely wise, powerful, or present as you say it is.
But no, GOD is so great.
But HERP DERP DERP...he felt hands pushing him up!...
FALSE.
It was his own will to survive. He underwent MASSIVE shock and he probably was hallucinating but he tried to tell himself to get up. There were no hands pushing him...he said he FELT being helped, but that doesn't mean that he was. Sometimes in traumatic conditions we lose sense of our faculties and incorrectly attribute experiences to other things. Our minds are going hay-wire.
Hell, he said he blacked out a bunch of times so clearly hes fading into consciousness and trying to make it alive.
Research out of body experiences. Its a result of our need for proprioceptive centers in the brain trying to orient themselves and somewhat going crazy...It creates the FEELING of doing or being somewhere but it doesn't make it true.
Remember, his body is trying to react after being shot like 2-3 times...from a SHOT gun..
What happened to basic altruism? Humans aren't the only species that care for others btw. Its why we have cops and medical professionals in the first place.
I'm happy that kid surivived but lets stop calling it a "miracle" because for every 100 people that get shot in those same circumstances, they ARE NOT that lucky. He is just alive because he didn't die. Thats it. Its not a miracle. Unless its a miracle that all that unfortunate stuff happened to him in the first place. You can't just pick and choose. So are the thousands of others that don't make it "not" blessed? Come on now. So whats so great about HIS life? You have to explain this.
All i'm saying is that being emotionally motivated or moved by his story doesn't mean that there is some supernatural force out there. It was just this kids will to not die in the woods and stumble out the street that let someone notice him. Lets be clear about that.
Good story though. Dude actually has a knack for retelling his ordeal. Happy to see him pushing through.
Originally Posted by DimesLikeHefner
Originally Posted by sillyputty
at all this "god" talk...
Let the kid live and be happy that he is alive.
@ god is SO good.
So if god is so good, how did this happen?
God let him get
A. Taken advantage of and disappear for 3 days
B. Get his body blown to bits
C. Made him completely unrecognizable to emergency medical team
D. made it necessary for modern medicine to KEEP HIM ALIVE when he would have died 100 years ago...unless god's powers "evolve" ...
E. made it necessary for medical technicians to even be trained in the first place
F. made him go to COURT instead of god "striking down" or doing whatever gods do to people who wrong others, but oddly get left up to the "justice system"
G. Makes the kid lose years of his life due to being shot.
H. God made the kid mentally unstable for years and years to come???
I. ODDLY GOD GETS THE CREDIT FOR THE KID BEING THANKFUL?!?!
If your god is all powerful and all knowing then god KNEW that the kid would have all of this happen to him and furthermore, created the circumstances for the kid to even get harmed by another kid who god KNEW would harm the victim.
So either we have free-will or we don't...
Either your god can do everything or he/she/it can't
or
he/she/it can be everywhere or can't
or
he/she/it can know everything or he/she/it does not.
Then your god is not as infinitely wise, powerful, or present as you say it is.
But no, GOD is so great.
But HERP DERP DERP...he felt hands pushing him up!...
FALSE.
It was his own will to survive. He underwent MASSIVE shock and he probably was hallucinating but he tried to tell himself to get up. There were no hands pushing him...he said he FELT being helped, but that doesn't mean that he was. Sometimes in traumatic conditions we lose sense of our faculties and incorrectly attribute experiences to other things. Our minds are going hay-wire.
Hell, he said he blacked out a bunch of times so clearly hes fading into consciousness and trying to make it alive.
Research out of body experiences. Its a result of our need for proprioceptive centers in the brain trying to orient themselves and somewhat going crazy...It creates the FEELING of doing or being somewhere but it doesn't make it true.
Remember, his body is trying to react after being shot like 2-3 times...from a SHOT gun..
What happened to basic altruism? Humans aren't the only species that care for others btw. Its why we have cops and medical professionals in the first place.
I'm happy that kid surivived but lets stop calling it a "miracle" because for every 100 people that get shot in those same circumstances, they ARE NOT that lucky. He is just alive because he didn't die. Thats it. Its not a miracle. Unless its a miracle that all that unfortunate stuff happened to him in the first place. You can't just pick and choose. So are the thousands of others that don't make it "not" blessed? Come on now. So whats so great about HIS life? You have to explain this.
All i'm saying is that being emotionally motivated or moved by his story doesn't mean that there is some supernatural force out there. It was just this kids will to not die in the woods and stumble out the street that let someone notice him. Lets be clear about that.
Good story though. Dude actually has a knack for retelling his ordeal. Happy to see him pushing through.
Originally Posted by Night Marcher01
Originally Posted by DimesLikeHefner
Originally Posted by sillyputty
at all this "god" talk...
Let the kid live and be happy that he is alive.
@ god is SO good.
So if god is so good, how did this happen?
God let him get
A. Taken advantage of and disappear for 3 days
B. Get his body blown to bits
C. Made him completely unrecognizable to emergency medical team
D. made it necessary for modern medicine to KEEP HIM ALIVE when he would have died 100 years ago...unless god's powers "evolve" ...
E. made it necessary for medical technicians to even be trained in the first place
F. made him go to COURT instead of god "striking down" or doing whatever gods do to people who wrong others, but oddly get left up to the "justice system"
G. Makes the kid lose years of his life due to being shot.
H. God made the kid mentally unstable for years and years to come???
I. ODDLY GOD GETS THE CREDIT FOR THE KID BEING THANKFUL?!?!
If your god is all powerful and all knowing then god KNEW that the kid would have all of this happen to him and furthermore, created the circumstances for the kid to even get harmed by another kid who god KNEW would harm the victim.
So either we have free-will or we don't...
Either your god can do everything or he/she/it can't
or
he/she/it can be everywhere or can't
or
he/she/it can know everything or he/she/it does not.
Then your god is not as infinitely wise, powerful, or present as you say it is.
But no, GOD is so great.
But HERP DERP DERP...he felt hands pushing him up!...
FALSE.
It was his own will to survive. He underwent MASSIVE shock and he probably was hallucinating but he tried to tell himself to get up. There were no hands pushing him...he said he FELT being helped, but that doesn't mean that he was. Sometimes in traumatic conditions we lose sense of our faculties and incorrectly attribute experiences to other things. Our minds are going hay-wire.
Hell, he said he blacked out a bunch of times so clearly hes fading into consciousness and trying to make it alive.
Research out of body experiences. Its a result of our need for proprioceptive centers in the brain trying to orient themselves and somewhat going crazy...It creates the FEELING of doing or being somewhere but it doesn't make it true.
Remember, his body is trying to react after being shot like 2-3 times...from a SHOT gun..
What happened to basic altruism? Humans aren't the only species that care for others btw. Its why we have cops and medical professionals in the first place.
I'm happy that kid surivived but lets stop calling it a "miracle" because for every 100 people that get shot in those same circumstances, they ARE NOT that lucky. He is just alive because he didn't die. Thats it. Its not a miracle. Unless its a miracle that all that unfortunate stuff happened to him in the first place. You can't just pick and choose. So are the thousands of others that don't make it "not" blessed? Come on now. So whats so great about HIS life? You have to explain this.
All i'm saying is that being emotionally motivated or moved by his story doesn't mean that there is some supernatural force out there. It was just this kids will to not die in the woods and stumble out the street that let someone notice him. Lets be clear about that.
Good story though. Dude actually has a knack for retelling his ordeal. Happy to see him pushing through.
I'm saying though, right?
Dude was quick to pull out the religion argument. Like dude, just shut up! If you watched the video, Ross clearly explained how miracles happened for him. Someone picking him up? Someone pushing him? Someone keeping him awake? All the coincidence of not knowing ANYTHING when he woke up, but knew his father's phone number? The Probation Officer? The FBI?
It's obvious that the kid in the video believes in God himself.C'mon b... let dat boy live!