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Oh you are funny.Checkout the year I joined, this rep thing is a new thing buddy and I could care less about it, baby girl.
He still has more reps than you, in a short time. Deal with it.
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Oh you are funny.Checkout the year I joined, this rep thing is a new thing buddy and I could care less about it, baby girl.
Oh you are funny.
He still has more reps than you, in a short time. Deal with it.
What are you, twelve? You think that calling someone a girl, is somehow an insult?ok girl
Hold up. Who told you that, and believing that you are some how very distant cousins to shrimp is equally if not more ******ed. Now thats somthing to laugh about
You're not interested in learning because if you were you wouldn't come to NT to learn....Let's be honest, NT is probably the most ignorant online community. You could go to reddit, LUI, or any other site where they actively discuss these issues. You come here to "flex".I hope the rest of NT notices the trend here.
When you get the theists to recognize the holes in their arguments they:
1. Make fun of the time you spend on NT
2. Call you names
3. Assert that you must be gay...or something.
4. make assumptions about the person they THINK you are offline
5. insinuate that you're some sort of sociopath
6. Say that you just "love to debate"...as if we wouldn't do that on a message board
7. they introduce other topics as a way to draw attention away from the original topic.
8. they don't answer direct questions.
Keep reaching.
Some would say that when born under those circumstances, that when you begin to believe in yourself, that you are actually believing in God as well. It's a spark, that thing that awakens you, your will to survive.I never really understood the "i have my reasons" argument for believing. I mean what about the kid that was born in poverty, homeless, not a dollar in the world does he have no reason to believe? What are his reasons to believe? He has nothing, no good luck, lives on the streets. It kind of sounds like a biased attribution instead of an actual belief in a high power/God.You should believe no matter what circumstances if you actually believe, otherwise it kind of sounds like you're waiting for proof or a happening to change your mind. With that said if the kid/guy/whoever were to hit the lottery and his luck changes does he now have a reason to believe since a fortunate event happened, is that now his "reason(s)" to believe?
See, but even then, thats just a social understanding.Hmmm, not so much a psychological state, as much as having a connection to others.Emotion? Thats it?
Then its not a thing. Its a psychological state.
See this is what I'm talking about.future md won this thread just like romney won the debate last night..
you are getting replys that are 2 sentences long and in return you respond with a novel dissecting every word and trying to twist it around, the question was do people really believe in angels people answered,it wasnt a PROVE angels and souls exist thread..you won the internet now go get laid.
Some would say that when born under those circumstances, that when you begin to believe in yourself, that you are actually believing in God as well. It's a spark, that thing that awakens you, your will to survive.
You called homie a girl?ok girl
touchy touchy, i didnt say you dont get laid you did..i should've said go get some fresh air..you claim to be so intelligent yet lack basic comprehension skills.See this is what I'm talking about.
You take the time to give detailed responses but now it turns into "you don't get laid"
PLEASE tell me when that last time was. I'm curious to see when you seem to know the last time that was.
You say that you've been around the dying. Once the person has deceased, did you have the chance to look them in the eye as they passed?See, but even then, thats just a social understanding.
Thats not a "soul"
Otherwise "democracy" is the "soul"
Cause you keep bringing up cadaver like your insinuating that you've looked throw the body for scientific evidence of a soul or a compartment for a soul. When actuality just like you've stated science doesn't have all the answer. So to ask for scientific evidence of where the soul is makes no sense. Especially when you yourself say science doesn't have all the answers, and some of the answers they do have are not answers at all. More like insinuations. Like evolution.I have been RIGHT NEXT TO SOMEONE AS THEY DIED AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND CADAVERS.
WHAT IS A SOUL AND WHERE IS IT?
WHY? I don't know.
Why do you breathe and eat down the same tube?
HOW do we use it? Its used to have extreme/intense dreams and is theorized to be released when you die, however I don't completely understand the studies behind the latter claim. How are the measuring that release and how aware are they that the release of this chemical is that much more present than other chemicals?
There is a lot of research with it though and I'm interested to see what it leads to.
However, how does that have ANYTHING to do with the soul or anything supernatural?
Chemicals altering the state of perception does NOT then mean = God.
Let's be clear, I didn't suggest that God created anything. What I did suggest is that some feel that once you begin to learn how to survive, that this is when you begin to know and worship God, especially under those circumstances. The absence of God, lies in not knowing how to survive.Not trying to argue back and forth etc but wouldn't that be a basic human instinct? I have no food/shelter/clothes, I need to find all of the above to survive. So God creates that hole so you can dig yourself out of it so that you'll believe in yourself but all the while you're actually believing in God/higher power because that said God/higher power is giving you the strength to overcome all of the circumstances?
What are you, twelve? You think that calling someone a girl, is somehow an insult?
Really?
Don't try to quote a book you've never even read.Who told me that? Your Bible did. You've got your god figure passing down rules about adultery, sex out of wedlock, whom his "chosen people" could marry, sodomy, etc.
Mentions of cancer? Malaria? or anything we now know about disease via what science has taught us? Nil.
Not my problem. You've got people in here making assertions that they can't back up. Then when asked, they come back saying "well I don't need to show you anything"You're not interested in learning because if you were you wouldn't come to NT to learn....Let's be honest, NT is probably the most ignorant online community. You could go to reddit, LUI, or any other site where they actively discuss these issues. You come here to "flex".I hope the rest of NT notices the trend here.
When you get the theists to recognize the holes in their arguments they:
1. Make fun of the time you spend on NT
2. Call you names
3. Assert that you must be gay...or something.
4. make assumptions about the person they THINK you are offline
5. insinuate that you're some sort of sociopath
6. Say that you just "love to debate"...as if we wouldn't do that on a message board
7. they introduce other topics as a way to draw attention away from the original topic.
8. they don't answer direct questions.
Keep reaching.
Burden of proof is on the person making the claim.You're saying I have no evidence of what a soul is but you have no evidence that there isn't a soul.
IYou say it's cognition and if that makes you happy, I respect it but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to fill in the gaps with my imagination because I'm content with not knowing and accepting it. You have to accept that there are people who have different beliefs.
SO?I'm talking about the summation of all the things I stated and then some.
Animals have cognition as well. We aren't the same as them.
NEURONS.Like I said, there's no physical evidence of our dreams, thoughts or memories. Funny how you can have memories for a lifetime but there's physical evidence that they exist. Where exactly are they stored?
Why is so hard to believe that souls exist when dreams exist.
Dreams are limited only to experiences you have or things you know.You know how crazy it sounds that every night when you go to sleep you travel to INFINITE worlds where you can see, feel, smell everything and or everyone you want. But it happens every night, to everyone but NO ONE can prove dreams are real.
Faith is a poor reason to adopt a stance. In fact, I won't settle for it.People have no problem accepting that there's holes in their argument but that doesn't mean they have to agree with you. That's what you have to learn to get over. Especially when we're talking about topics that require faith.
So am I.There are many things in this world that I'm content with saying I don't know.
Actually I don't think thats accurate either.But once more proof comes out and I read it and evaluate it MYSELF I'll come to the conclusion on whether or not I believe it. I don't think it's fair to pick apart people with beliefs and when they ask you how you feel about it you say "I don't know".
I actually don't say anyone is "dumb"The problem isn't what you believe in, it's how you come across. I actually agree with 90% of what you say but you come off like a sociopath. I know, I know "you don't care" but you should if you're as active as you are. It's literally, "if you don't explain your beliefs to me in a way I find suitable YOU ARE DUMB". Dude, that's so selfish and disrespectful.
Who did I call names?You're the one who calls people names and makes assumptions on how dumb people are ALL THE TIME, so I don't see where that's coming from.
I'm loggin now.
Wow, I guess you've told me!Sounds like you hurt your ovaries.
Wow, I guess you've told me!
This is the only thing I disagree with you on, is what I highlighted.I'm just curious as to what exactly constitutes proof or evidence of angels/spirits/ ghosts or even god for that matter? I'm mean, who wouldn't like proof? I think most would like to know with a reasonable degree of certainty if any of this stuff exists but I'm just thinking to myself, what would that even look like? A picture/video? Some sort of molecular breakdown of an apparently intangible "thing"? I mean, does classical physics even apply here? Who knows. More directly, what exactly would it take for believing in the above mentioned to not seem like such a silly proposition?
Say this is 1700 and you want to prove that intangible electrical frequency can carry moving images across vast distances, how would you do it? I'd imagine you'd have a tough time even explaining what you are talking about let alone proving it. Would one say this is not a truth? It only becomes a truth when we, as humans, develop our understandings sufficiently enough to make it a truth, to become aware of that potential in nature? Or to prove it, so to speak?
One shouldn't be so adamant about what exists and what doesn't because there always lingers the possibility that you're just too stupid to know it.
I think it was Plato or perhaps Socrates that said "It is the wise man who knows that he knows only what he can prove." Or something like that.