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yeah, pretty sad reading some of the anger in the comments so far. This dude will probably force his kids to watch no country for old men instead of a Christmas special on tv or something
(Holiday Post): Is belief in Santa dying among the youth
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yeah, pretty sad reading some of the anger in the comments so far. This dude will probably force his kids to watch no country for old men instead of a Christmas special on tv or something
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A couple miserable people in this thread. Its sad. Some people have soo much hate in their heart. Let it out, you cant be a hater all your life. <3I love the idea of santa, Santa lives on !!
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Fair enough, but why do you need to lie to your children to make them happy?
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Preachhhh !!!!!
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I wish we celebrated the summer solstice like we used to do. Then we could slaughter a child and make an offering to the sun god.
I don't care if you want to be like me or not. Its not my concern.
You didn't shed a tear when we stopped celebrating Persephone's rise, did you?
Doesn't mean its true or more valid.
Ah yes, daddy had to spend his bonus on getting you clothes and the new barbie play-house, but its cool, I'll let Santa take credit.
Its no wonder why seemingly impotent theists have no problem attributing their own hard work to a god of some sort. They've been bred into being meek servants of society undeserving of praise for their own efforts. Its really telling....
Except for the kid who gets nothing for christmas, right?
A mystery isn't something that we already know the answer to.
You know what I think would be more captivating? A trip to a conservatory. A chance to see the lunar eclipse that happened a few days ago and to peer into the stars and see how vast the universe is.
Thats a real mystery.
My kids will know how special they are each and every day...but they will also know how privileged they are to even be alive past the age of 10.
I'm not against making children feel special...I'm against lying to them under the pretense of them being special.
Its kinda like how most americans live. You think that just because you live here, you are special?
I'll do it in a HEARTBEAT.
That kid in that shelter knows the struggles of the real world more than most of you EVER will and removing one more component of society that offers false hope is something that I will gladly do.
Why?
Because I want that kid to know that even though you're poor, you're struggling, and you feel like no one is in your corner...the one person that matters the most is YOU. No one is more important or beneficial in helping you get out of your situation than YOU.
That kid will embrace the fact that he can't rely on others to get ahead. He'll do more with his own self confidence and assurance than will someone sitting around and waiting for "santa" to come by the shelter with crap he doesn't need.
You think a kid in a shelter needs a teddy bear? That kid needs a damn blanket and clothes and books. A teddy bear isn't going to better their situation anymore than a volleyball with a palm-print on it.
[infant crying sounds]
Go lie to your children somewhere else. Its so CUTE seeing them with their minds clogged full of crap and a lack of appreciation for the hard work their parents put in to purchase gifts that the rest of the world can only dream of. How delightful!
But no, its more important to waste time on perpetrating a pointless myth for the sake of breaking their hearts later on as opposed to ACTUALLY addressing problems in the world.
[/infant crying sounds]
You're not a part of my household so none of this concerns you.
This the the way that I've chosen to run my household, and give my children what I considered a special part of my own
childhood.
So like I said before oh great chart poster....
1. moosetracks icecream.
2. facial tissues.
*slowly puts on deal with it shades*
Do you feel that you are immune to criticism and dissenting opinion?
Or
Are you unable to address those criticisms and respond using personal attacks?
But hey, if you feel like lying to your kids because its "fun" then go right ahead.
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This is the way that holidays are done in my household.
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Did your parents tell you he wasn't real? Or did you figure it out?
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Did your parents tell you that the tooth fairy was real?
If so, will you also tell your children that the tooth fairy is real?
Why or why not?
Lastly, why do you feel that age 8 or 9 is the appropriate age for children to grow out of believing in Santa?
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Silly putty pm your PayPal and cell phone number
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My kids will believe.
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^ My parents did the whole tooth fairy thing, but we won't because I just don't feel that it's important.
I will buy them small toys each time they lose a tooth to celebrate their growth.
I'm choosing 8 or 9 for the Santa cutoff just because I feel that it's a good stopping point for them.
I'm not immune to criticism and dissenting opinion.
My problem with your criticism and dissenting opinions are that they are attacks on others' way of life.
This type of bitter word soup that you spill all over NT is getting a little old.
But In this case there's nothing to address.
This is the way that I run my house. If you let that affect your own life, then that's your own problem.
I will buy them small toys each time they lose a tooth to celebrate their growth.
I'm choosing 8 or 9 for the Santa cutoff just because I feel that it's a good stopping point for them.
But hey, if you feel like lying to your kids because its "fun" then go right ahead.
I'm not immune to criticism and dissenting opinion.
My problem with your criticism and dissenting opinions are that they are attacks on others' way of life.
This type of bitter word soup that you spill all over NT is getting a little old.
But In this case there's nothing to address.
This is the way that I run my house. If you let that affect your own life, then that's your own problem.
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SillyPutty: just get off Niketalk man. All you're ever here to do is argue, and it's always about the same damn things, and you always say the same damn things, and no one %%$+#!+ cares.
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My parents didn't tell me that he was real nor did they tell me that he wasn't real.
So yeah, I figured it out.
Knowing Santa didn't exist didn't take away any of the joy I felt from receiving presents or spending time with my family.
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Originally Posted by JayPesoz
yeah,
pretty sad reading some of the anger in the comments so far. This dude
will probably force his kids to watch no country for old men instead of a Christmas special on tv or something
I don't know whether it's hatred and anger or selfishness that lead people to these thoughts, maybe both.
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Go sit down. You don't have no kids, and damn sure dont understand how precious preserving a child's innocence actually is. You're the type of clown that would tell a five year old exactly how they were born and that life's a $&@?! and then you die. I'm glad I'm nothing like most of you.
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I agree. Human beings have the rest of adulthood to deal with the truth and reality. As an innocent child, I rather have them run wild with their imaginations. Like my JO's 3 year old daughter, it's fantastic to see her smile and talk about Santa.Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs
Originally Posted by Supermanblue79
Both of my girls believe, and we'll keep it going until they reach 8 or 9.
I've had more fun being Santa over the years, than I did as a kid waiting on him to deliver.
Word it would be Dope as a parent to See your kids light up with happiness it's the little things like that which makes their childhood amazing.
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My youngest daughter (7) still believes in Santa. My oldest daughter (11), we told her last year that Santa didn't exist but we knew she didn't really believe it anymore. There are tons of parents who tell there kids that Santa doesn't exist. I just enjoy the holiday times and it's a always been a great time of year for me. Almost our entire neighborhood still decorates their houses.
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Alright, I see now.
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You figured I out, so did I, and so will every kid. So what's the harm in letting their imagination fill with joy this time of year?
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Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion
Originally Posted by JayPesoz
yeah,
pretty sad reading some of the anger in the comments so far. This dude
will probably force his kids to watch no country for old men instead of a Christmas special on tv or something
I don't know whether it's hatred and anger or selfishness that lead people to these thoughts, maybe both.
I don't see where the prerequisite is being "angry" has to come from.
Santa doesn't exist. We all know it. Yet we still perpetrate the myth.
WHY?
There is no good reason to do so.
There is a good reason to tell people to wash their hands, to not kill people, to cook their cool to high temperatures, and to not stare at the sun.
But where is the instrinic benefit in telling kids a lie during their youth?
Ah yes, when someone disagrees with me its "NO ONE CARES"
When someone agrees with me its "as much as I hate him, he has a point!"
No middle ground with you at all.
I disagree with teaching kids about things that we know don't exist. I'm sure you would be offended if I walked into your kids classroom and started telling them about the aliens from planet Y437 and how they want to anally probe us if we don't repent our sins and be good all-throughout the year.
Go lie to your children somewhere else. Its so CUTE seeing them with their minds clogged full of crap and a lack of appreciation for the hard work their parents put in to purchase gifts that the rest of the world can only dream of. How delightful!
But no, its more important to waste time on perpetrating a pointless myth for the sake of breaking their hearts later on as opposed to ACTUALLY addressing problems in the world.
Ah yes, but in the world of "NDAA acts,super viruses being made,Nuclear proliferation,famines,Genocides,and Michael Bay movies" you want to talk about santa claus and lying to your kids.
Ah yes, what an even better waste of society's time!
Go sit down. You don't have no kids, and damn sure dont understand how precious preserving a child's innocence actually is. You're the type of clown that would tell a five year old exactly how they were born and that life's a $&@?! and then you die. I'm glad I'm nothing like most of you.
This dude wants to talk about a child's innocence but still wants the ability to tell them LIES....THE IRONY
Look there are things I will wait to tell my kids...but I won't LIE to them.
I won't tell my kid about the problems in the middle east, or what I think of the president when hes 4 years old... but I won't LIE to him if he/she asks about it.
There is a difference between telling your kids things about the world and LYING to them.
EDIT:
The running theme i'm noticing here is that people are embracing rituals and symbolism to add meaning to otherwise drab and boring lives. So of course they'll attack me for the one thing that makes them feel important or gives them some degree of identity, even though they know in the back of their minds that its all non-sense. Why do we put our hands together to pray? Why do we stand at attention? Why do we put our hands over our hearts? Why do we salute? Why do we sacrifice animals? Why do we ritually drink wine and eat crackers?
I prefer to live in a reality not confounded with false hope and irrational ideology.
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LOL @ people having to tell an 11 year old Santa doesn't exist? It's good to see the intellectual demise of the youth of this country starts early. You really need to tell a 9, 10, 11 year old Santa doesn't exist?
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No, at this point, it's no one cares. Your name is synonymous with pointless arguments. No one is in favor of your ranting anymore.
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If nobody responds they can't post.
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Its a pointless argument when you only address those that dont want to teach their kids about santa?
The standards you all set for objectivity are hilarious.
RIGHT?!
Yeah, lets stunt the emotional and intellectual growth of our little princess by having her think that her mother and father just wish for those gifts to pop up under that tree in the living room.
EDIT:
The truth can hurt, and as a parent, I refuse to risk hurting my children just to say I told the truth. If some woman is dumb enough to let you impregnate her, your kids are going to hate your guts.
Yeah, i'm sure your kids respect you for lying to them.
"Sir, we wanted to tell you about your cancer a couple of months ago, but we didn't want to hurt your feelings"
"Madam, we wanted to tell you that your work on this assignment was wrong, but it looked so pretty you seemed so happy, I'm sorry we didn't tell you sooner"
"Young man, I'm sorry we didn't tell you that you couldn't fly...just make sure to keep this cast on your leg dry for the next six weeks"
"Little lady, I wish we had told you that santa doesn't exist sooner so you wouldn't get sick over drinking the milk you left out for santa"
Yeah, the truth hurts. Ignorance is bliss.
Take your pick.
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Originally Posted by sillyputty
Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion
Originally Posted by JayPesoz
yeah,
pretty sad reading some of the anger in the comments so far. This dude
will probably force his kids to watch no country for old men instead of a Christmas special on tv or something
I don't know whether it's hatred and anger or selfishness that lead people to these thoughts, maybe both.
I don't see where the prerequisite is being "angry" has to come from.
Santa doesn't exist. We all know it. Yet we still perpetrate the myth.
WHY?
There is no good reason to do so.
There is a good reason to tell people to wash their hands, to not kill people, to cook their cool to high temperatures, and to not stare at the sun.
But where is the instrinic benefit in telling kids a lie during their youth?
Ah yes, when someone disagrees with me its "NO ONE CARES"
When someone agrees with me its "as much as I hate him, he has a point!"
No middle ground with you at all.
I disagree with teaching kids about things that we know don't exist. I'm sure you would be offended if I walked into your kids classroom and started telling them about the aliens from planet Y437 and how they want to anally probe us if we don't repent our sins and be good all-throughout the year.
Go sit down. You don't have no kids, and damn sure dont understand how precious preserving a child's innocence actually is. You're the type of clown that would tell a five year old exactly how they were born and that life's a $&@?! and then you die. I'm glad I'm nothing like most of you.
Look there are things I will wait to tell my kids...but I won't LIE to them.
I won't tell my kid about the problems in the middle east, or what I think of the president when hes 4 years old... but I won't LIE to him if he/she asks about it.
There is a difference between telling your kids things about the world and LYING to them.
The truth can hurt, and as a parent, I refuse to risk hurting my children just to say I told the truth. If some woman is dumb enough to let you impregnate her, your kids are going to hate your guts.
