How accurate is this portrayal of Muslims?

[ohdannyboy]

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Your're also correct when you say that Muslims are getting a pass, especially in America, just because of their beliefs. I feel the exact same. But the group in this video just happened to Muslims. You could've have substituted the Muslims w/ literally any group, and that group, if disrespected to a certain degree, would've have acted the same. 
If someone rapes and murders x persons wife, and x person finds the guy and murders him, are x person's actions not justified even tho he's wrong?

Who is the victim from the making of this video?  Your hypothetical situation has a murdered rape victim.

Islam is the victim from the making of the video, and the people that care about it reacted. Just as the man in my example.

I made a similar example, they said it was wrong because murder in your case (rape) in mine was illegal, unlike the video, according to them. I modified my example to not by illegal and they couldnt refute it. Were doing the same thing, my post was ignored and I hope it wont be continued to be, or that yours will at least be responded to... logically.
  

It doesn't matter if something is legal, it comes down to whether it's right. Rosa Parks broke the law, but does that mean that she was wrong for not getting up?

 

[ohdannyboy]

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Your're also correct when you say that Muslims are getting a pass, especially in America, just because of their beliefs. I feel the exact same. But the group in this video just happened to Muslims. You could've have substituted the Muslims w/ literally any group, and that group, if disrespected to a certain degree, would've have acted the same. 
If someone rapes and murders x persons wife, and x person finds the guy and murders him, are x person's actions not justified even tho he's wrong?

Who is the victim from the making of this video?  Your hypothetical situation has a murdered rape victim.

Islam is the victim from the making of the video, and the people that care about it reacted. Just as the man in my example.

I made a similar example, they said it was wrong because murder in your case (rape) in mine was illegal, unlike the video, according to them. I modified my example to not by illegal and they couldnt refute it. Were doing the same thing, my post was ignored and I hope it wont be continued to be, or that yours will at least be responded to... logically.
  

It doesn't matter if something is legal, it comes down to whether it's right. Rosa Parks broke the law, but does that mean that she was wrong for not getting up?

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Your're also correct when you say that Muslims are getting a pass, especially in America, just because of their beliefs. I feel the exact same. But the group in this video just happened to Muslims. You could've have substituted the Muslims w/ literally any group, and that group, if disrespected to a certain degree, would've have acted the same. 
If someone rapes and murders x persons wife, and x person finds the guy and murders him, are x person's actions not justified even tho he's wrong?

Who is the victim from the making of this video?  Your hypothetical situation has a murdered rape victim.

Islam is the victim from the making of the video, and the people that care about it reacted. Just as the man in my example.

I made a similar example, they said it was wrong because murder in your case (rape) in mine was illegal, unlike the video, according to them. I modified my example to not by illegal and they couldnt refute it. Were doing the same thing, my post was ignored and I hope it wont be continued to be, or that yours will at least be responded to... logically.
  

It doesn't matter if something is legal, it comes down to whether it's right. Rosa Parks broke the law, but does that mean that she was wrong for not getting up?

I agree with you, but theyre dismissing the argument because of legalities, thats why I changed mine on the 3rd page and hes still missing the point. The guy who made the video is taunting the Muslims in the audience, violating them on purpose to incite an outraged reaction and he should expect someone will try to hurt him, but they (primarily Its That Dude) wanna circumlocute their own arguments and dodge this point entirely.

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Your're also correct when you say that Muslims are getting a pass, especially in America, just because of their beliefs. I feel the exact same. But the group in this video just happened to Muslims. You could've have substituted the Muslims w/ literally any group, and that group, if disrespected to a certain degree, would've have acted the same. 
If someone rapes and murders x persons wife, and x person finds the guy and murders him, are x person's actions not justified even tho he's wrong?

Who is the victim from the making of this video?  Your hypothetical situation has a murdered rape victim.

Islam is the victim from the making of the video, and the people that care about it reacted. Just as the man in my example.

I made a similar example, they said it was wrong because murder in your case (rape) in mine was illegal, unlike the video, according to them. I modified my example to not by illegal and they couldnt refute it. Were doing the same thing, my post was ignored and I hope it wont be continued to be, or that yours will at least be responded to... logically.
  

It doesn't matter if something is legal, it comes down to whether it's right. Rosa Parks broke the law, but does that mean that she was wrong for not getting up?

I agree with you, but theyre dismissing the argument because of legalities, thats why I changed mine on the 3rd page and hes still missing the point. The guy who made the video is taunting the Muslims in the audience, violating them on purpose to incite an outraged reaction and he should expect someone will try to hurt him, but they (primarily Its That Dude) wanna circumlocute their own arguments and dodge this point entirely.

 

[th1nk]

Originally Posted by bijald0331

One has to look at how religion exists in reality, not how it is scripted on paper.

you go to NorthWestern, right?
Go talk attend an MSA (Muslim Student Association) meeting or talk to a Muslim person who is knowledgeable about their religion, then figure out how the religion exists in reality.

What you'll find out is that Muslims are not all that different from other people.

 

[th1nk]

Originally Posted by bijald0331

One has to look at how religion exists in reality, not how it is scripted on paper.

you go to NorthWestern, right?
Go talk attend an MSA (Muslim Student Association) meeting or talk to a Muslim person who is knowledgeable about their religion, then figure out how the religion exists in reality.

What you'll find out is that Muslims are not all that different from other people.

 

[its that dude]

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

You live in Western society, and obviously have a very narrow world view. Most of Western society could care less about religion. Most do not faithfully practice their religions, be it Judaism, Christianity, whatever. But if you go to a Muslim, a religion that requires more stricter practice (i.e pray five times a day), and proceed to insult what they hold sacred by associating it with pornography or what have you, of course you're going to prompt a strong reaction.

And this doesn't strictly apply to Muslims. It's called the mob mentality. Not sure why you're associating an outburst of justified anger with all Muslims being violent animals, but it's probably a personal problem you have with the religion (Its That Bigot). And yes, of course there is aggressive language in the Quran, but that is no different from EVERY monotheistic text. Of course, you will then say "Ah ha! Islam does support violence!" But you would once again be wrong.

There is an acute distinction between jihad — legal warfare with the proper rules of engagement — and irhab, or terrorism. The Quran states that those who commit irjaf are going to hell. This is all noted by scholar Phillip Jenkins of PSU. Mind you, there is violent language in the Old and New testament as well.

So why do you hear about a bunch of crazy Muslims blowing themselves and others up everyday? I'll paraphrase the scholar:

It's is because in the past 30 years, there's been a perfect storm that has created a violent offshoot of Islam. The first is obviously political, the frustration at Western intervention in the Muslim world (read Israel, unjustified war in Iraq, etc.). The second is intellectual, aka the rise of Wahhabi Islam, a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam subscribed to by Osama bin Laden. Basically those who have their own agenda have distorted Islam for political purposes. It should be noted how small and insignificant a percentage of the billions of Muslims this is. Sadly, their actions are not so insignificant.

Basically what they do is they take verses out of context (jihad) and then use that to justify these horrific actions. (irhab)




Cliffnotes: Religions is what it has always been. Don't let the actions of a few distort your perspective of many.

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

 

[its that dude]

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

You live in Western society, and obviously have a very narrow world view. Most of Western society could care less about religion. Most do not faithfully practice their religions, be it Judaism, Christianity, whatever. But if you go to a Muslim, a religion that requires more stricter practice (i.e pray five times a day), and proceed to insult what they hold sacred by associating it with pornography or what have you, of course you're going to prompt a strong reaction.

And this doesn't strictly apply to Muslims. It's called the mob mentality. Not sure why you're associating an outburst of justified anger with all Muslims being violent animals, but it's probably a personal problem you have with the religion (Its That Bigot). And yes, of course there is aggressive language in the Quran, but that is no different from EVERY monotheistic text. Of course, you will then say "Ah ha! Islam does support violence!" But you would once again be wrong.

There is an acute distinction between jihad — legal warfare with the proper rules of engagement — and irhab, or terrorism. The Quran states that those who commit irjaf are going to hell. This is all noted by scholar Phillip Jenkins of PSU. Mind you, there is violent language in the Old and New testament as well.

So why do you hear about a bunch of crazy Muslims blowing themselves and others up everyday? I'll paraphrase the scholar:

It's is because in the past 30 years, there's been a perfect storm that has created a violent offshoot of Islam. The first is obviously political, the frustration at Western intervention in the Muslim world (read Israel, unjustified war in Iraq, etc.). The second is intellectual, aka the rise of Wahhabi Islam, a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam subscribed to by Osama bin Laden. Basically those who have their own agenda have distorted Islam for political purposes. It should be noted how small and insignificant a percentage of the billions of Muslims this is. Sadly, their actions are not so insignificant.

Basically what they do is they take verses out of context (jihad) and then use that to justify these horrific actions. (irhab)




Cliffnotes: Religions is what it has always been. Don't let the actions of a few distort your perspective of many.

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

 

[its that dude]

Originally Posted by th1nk

Originally Posted by bijald0331

One has to look at how religion exists in reality, not how it is scripted on paper.

you go to NorthWestern, right?
Go talk attend an MSA (Muslim Student Association) meeting or talk to a Muslim person who is knowledgeable about their religion, then figure out how the religion exists in reality.

What you'll find out is that Muslims are not all that different from other people.

I'd say how the religion is practiced by its members is most important.  Muslims like these are very different from me.

 

[its that dude]

Originally Posted by th1nk

Originally Posted by bijald0331

One has to look at how religion exists in reality, not how it is scripted on paper.

you go to NorthWestern, right?
Go talk attend an MSA (Muslim Student Association) meeting or talk to a Muslim person who is knowledgeable about their religion, then figure out how the religion exists in reality.

What you'll find out is that Muslims are not all that different from other people.

I'd say how the religion is practiced by its members is most important.  Muslims like these are very different from me.

 

[th1nk]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

You live in Western society, and obviously have a very narrow world view. Most of Western society could care less about religion. Most do not faithfully practice their religions, be it Judaism, Christianity, whatever. But if you go to a Muslim, a religion that requires more stricter practice (i.e pray five times a day), and proceed to insult what they hold sacred by associating it with pornography or what have you, of course you're going to prompt a strong reaction.

And this doesn't strictly apply to Muslims. It's called the mob mentality. Not sure why you're associating an outburst of justified anger with all Muslims being violent animals, but it's probably a personal problem you have with the religion (Its That Bigot). And yes, of course there is aggressive language in the Quran, but that is no different from EVERY monotheistic text. Of course, you will then say "Ah ha! Islam does support violence!" But you would once again be wrong.

There is an acute distinction between jihad — legal warfare with the proper rules of engagement — and irhab, or terrorism. The Quran states that those who commit irjaf are going to hell. This is all noted by scholar Phillip Jenkins of PSU. Mind you, there is violent language in the Old and New testament as well.

So why do you hear about a bunch of crazy Muslims blowing themselves and others up everyday? I'll paraphrase the scholar:

It's is because in the past 30 years, there's been a perfect storm that has created a violent offshoot of Islam. The first is obviously political, the frustration at Western intervention in the Muslim world (read Israel, unjustified war in Iraq, etc.). The second is intellectual, aka the rise of Wahhabi Islam, a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam subscribed to by Osama bin Laden. Basically those who have their own agenda have distorted Islam for political purposes. It should be noted how small and insignificant a percentage of the billions of Muslims this is. Sadly, their actions are not so insignificant.

Basically what they do is they take verses out of context (jihad) and then use that to justify these horrific actions. (irhab)




Cliffnotes: Religions is what it has always been. Don't let the actions of a few distort your perspective of many.

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

SMH @ ur reading comprehension. 

 

[th1nk]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

You live in Western society, and obviously have a very narrow world view. Most of Western society could care less about religion. Most do not faithfully practice their religions, be it Judaism, Christianity, whatever. But if you go to a Muslim, a religion that requires more stricter practice (i.e pray five times a day), and proceed to insult what they hold sacred by associating it with pornography or what have you, of course you're going to prompt a strong reaction.

And this doesn't strictly apply to Muslims. It's called the mob mentality. Not sure why you're associating an outburst of justified anger with all Muslims being violent animals, but it's probably a personal problem you have with the religion (Its That Bigot). And yes, of course there is aggressive language in the Quran, but that is no different from EVERY monotheistic text. Of course, you will then say "Ah ha! Islam does support violence!" But you would once again be wrong.

There is an acute distinction between jihad — legal warfare with the proper rules of engagement — and irhab, or terrorism. The Quran states that those who commit irjaf are going to hell. This is all noted by scholar Phillip Jenkins of PSU. Mind you, there is violent language in the Old and New testament as well.

So why do you hear about a bunch of crazy Muslims blowing themselves and others up everyday? I'll paraphrase the scholar:

It's is because in the past 30 years, there's been a perfect storm that has created a violent offshoot of Islam. The first is obviously political, the frustration at Western intervention in the Muslim world (read Israel, unjustified war in Iraq, etc.). The second is intellectual, aka the rise of Wahhabi Islam, a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam subscribed to by Osama bin Laden. Basically those who have their own agenda have distorted Islam for political purposes. It should be noted how small and insignificant a percentage of the billions of Muslims this is. Sadly, their actions are not so insignificant.

Basically what they do is they take verses out of context (jihad) and then use that to justify these horrific actions. (irhab)




Cliffnotes: Religions is what it has always been. Don't let the actions of a few distort your perspective of many.

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

SMH @ ur reading comprehension. 

 

[its that dude]

2LipsLegit wrote:

I agree with you, but theyre dismissing the argument because of legalities, thats why I changed mine on the 3rd page and hes still missing the point. The guy who made the video is taunting the Muslims in the audience, violating them on purpose to incite an outraged reaction and he should expect someone will try to hurt him, but they (primarily Its That Dude) wanna circumlocute their own arguments and dodge this point entirely.

How the hell did he violate them?  What did he violate?  Shouldn't we have a problem with people who react to a video like this with violence and death threats? 

I understand what you're trying to say.  We shouldn't be surprised that this is the way the Muslims reacted.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't excuse their actions.  There is no place for this kind of thinking and behavior.

 

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[its that dude]

2LipsLegit wrote:

I agree with you, but theyre dismissing the argument because of legalities, thats why I changed mine on the 3rd page and hes still missing the point. The guy who made the video is taunting the Muslims in the audience, violating them on purpose to incite an outraged reaction and he should expect someone will try to hurt him, but they (primarily Its That Dude) wanna circumlocute their own arguments and dodge this point entirely.

How the hell did he violate them?  What did he violate?  Shouldn't we have a problem with people who react to a video like this with violence and death threats? 

I understand what you're trying to say.  We shouldn't be surprised that this is the way the Muslims reacted.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't excuse their actions.  There is no place for this kind of thinking and behavior.

 

[its that dude]

Originally Posted by th1nk

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

You live in Western society, and obviously have a very narrow world view. Most of Western society could care less about religion. Most do not faithfully practice their religions, be it Judaism, Christianity, whatever. But if you go to a Muslim, a religion that requires more stricter practice (i.e pray five times a day), and proceed to insult what they hold sacred by associating it with pornography or what have you, of course you're going to prompt a strong reaction.

And this doesn't strictly apply to Muslims. It's called the mob mentality. Not sure why you're associating an outburst of justified anger with all Muslims being violent animals, but it's probably a personal problem you have with the religion (Its That Bigot). And yes, of course there is aggressive language in the Quran, but that is no different from EVERY monotheistic text. Of course, you will then say "Ah ha! Islam does support violence!" But you would once again be wrong.

There is an acute distinction between jihad — legal warfare with the proper rules of engagement — and irhab, or terrorism. The Quran states that those who commit irjaf are going to hell. This is all noted by scholar Phillip Jenkins of PSU. Mind you, there is violent language in the Old and New testament as well.

So why do you hear about a bunch of crazy Muslims blowing themselves and others up everyday? I'll paraphrase the scholar:

It's is because in the past 30 years, there's been a perfect storm that has created a violent offshoot of Islam. The first is obviously political, the frustration at Western intervention in the Muslim world (read Israel, unjustified war in Iraq, etc.). The second is intellectual, aka the rise of Wahhabi Islam, a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam subscribed to by Osama bin Laden. Basically those who have their own agenda have distorted Islam for political purposes. It should be noted how small and insignificant a percentage of the billions of Muslims this is. Sadly, their actions are not so insignificant.

Basically what they do is they take verses out of context (jihad) and then use that to justify these horrific actions. (irhab)




Cliffnotes: Religions is what it has always been. Don't let the actions of a few distort your perspective of many.

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

SMH @ ur reading comprehension. 

did I misunderstand something?  Did he mean something else by "aggressive?"

If there is religious text advocating violence or "aggressive" actions, is that religion not violent?

 

[its that dude]

Originally Posted by th1nk

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

You live in Western society, and obviously have a very narrow world view. Most of Western society could care less about religion. Most do not faithfully practice their religions, be it Judaism, Christianity, whatever. But if you go to a Muslim, a religion that requires more stricter practice (i.e pray five times a day), and proceed to insult what they hold sacred by associating it with pornography or what have you, of course you're going to prompt a strong reaction.

And this doesn't strictly apply to Muslims. It's called the mob mentality. Not sure why you're associating an outburst of justified anger with all Muslims being violent animals, but it's probably a personal problem you have with the religion (Its That Bigot). And yes, of course there is aggressive language in the Quran, but that is no different from EVERY monotheistic text. Of course, you will then say "Ah ha! Islam does support violence!" But you would once again be wrong.

There is an acute distinction between jihad — legal warfare with the proper rules of engagement — and irhab, or terrorism. The Quran states that those who commit irjaf are going to hell. This is all noted by scholar Phillip Jenkins of PSU. Mind you, there is violent language in the Old and New testament as well.

So why do you hear about a bunch of crazy Muslims blowing themselves and others up everyday? I'll paraphrase the scholar:

It's is because in the past 30 years, there's been a perfect storm that has created a violent offshoot of Islam. The first is obviously political, the frustration at Western intervention in the Muslim world (read Israel, unjustified war in Iraq, etc.). The second is intellectual, aka the rise of Wahhabi Islam, a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam subscribed to by Osama bin Laden. Basically those who have their own agenda have distorted Islam for political purposes. It should be noted how small and insignificant a percentage of the billions of Muslims this is. Sadly, their actions are not so insignificant.

Basically what they do is they take verses out of context (jihad) and then use that to justify these horrific actions. (irhab)




Cliffnotes: Religions is what it has always been. Don't let the actions of a few distort your perspective of many.

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

SMH @ ur reading comprehension. 

did I misunderstand something?  Did he mean something else by "aggressive?"

If there is religious text advocating violence or "aggressive" actions, is that religion not violent?

 

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

It is justified because the director took something that is sacred and to them (their religion), and associated it with homosexuality and pornography (both widely considered evil by all manner of religion). Combine that offense with the mob mentality, and of course there is going to be an outraged reaction.
What if that director went to Harlem, and showed a film in support of the KKK. What do you think will happen? Or what if you went to some real, practicing Christians, and showed them a similar film as the one in the video, except in association with Christianity? I could go on and on.

@ you not targeting Islam, when it's clear that you are. It's okay though, bigotry is not an incurable condition....

Oh, and "aggressive language" in every scripture must be taken in context...stop generalizing.

 

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

Originally Posted by abovelegit1

It's just not just justified anger (not justified imo),  the crowd was making death threats and retaliating with violence.  It might seem like I'm targeting Islam as the only violent religion, but that's just because I specifically made this post about Muslims and Islam.  I could've made it about abortion doctor killers.  I agree with you that many religions are violent

I'm not even taking it to extremist levels terrorism.  This is a seemingly moderate group of Muslims reacting to this video with violence and death threats.  It doesn't seem like it's only a few extremists...

It is justified because the director took something that is sacred and to them (their religion), and associated it with homosexuality and pornography (both widely considered evil by all manner of religion). Combine that offense with the mob mentality, and of course there is going to be an outraged reaction.
What if that director went to Harlem, and showed a film in support of the KKK. What do you think will happen? Or what if you went to some real, practicing Christians, and showed them a similar film as the one in the video, except in association with Christianity? I could go on and on.

@ you not targeting Islam, when it's clear that you are. It's okay though, bigotry is not an incurable condition....

Oh, and "aggressive language" in every scripture must be taken in context...stop generalizing.

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

2LipsLegit wrote:

I agree with you, but theyre dismissing the argument because of legalities, thats why I changed mine on the 3rd page and hes still missing the point. The guy who made the video is taunting the Muslims in the audience, violating them on purpose to incite an outraged reaction and he should expect someone will try to hurt him, but they (primarily Its That Dude) wanna circumlocute their own arguments and dodge this point entirely.

How the hell did he violate them?  What did he violate?  Shouldn't we have a problem with people who react to a video like this with violence and death threats? 

I understand what you're trying to say.  We shouldn't be surprised that this is the way the Muslims reacted.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't excuse their actions.  There is no place for this kind of thinking and behavior.




   When in this video does someone make a death threat? I just listened to the whole thing through my headphones to hear it even clearer and I couldnt hear a single death threat. Keep in mind I understand Swedish, Im assuming you dont.

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

2LipsLegit wrote:

I agree with you, but theyre dismissing the argument because of legalities, thats why I changed mine on the 3rd page and hes still missing the point. The guy who made the video is taunting the Muslims in the audience, violating them on purpose to incite an outraged reaction and he should expect someone will try to hurt him, but they (primarily Its That Dude) wanna circumlocute their own arguments and dodge this point entirely.

How the hell did he violate them?  What did he violate?  Shouldn't we have a problem with people who react to a video like this with violence and death threats? 

I understand what you're trying to say.  We shouldn't be surprised that this is the way the Muslims reacted.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't excuse their actions.  There is no place for this kind of thinking and behavior.




   When in this video does someone make a death threat? I just listened to the whole thing through my headphones to hear it even clearer and I couldnt hear a single death threat. Keep in mind I understand Swedish, Im assuming you dont.

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by th1nk

Originally Posted by bijald0331

One has to look at how religion exists in reality, not how it is scripted on paper.

you go to NorthWestern, right?
Go talk attend an MSA (Muslim Student Association) meeting or talk to a Muslim person who is knowledgeable about their religion, then figure out how the religion exists in reality.

What you'll find out is that Muslims are not all that different from other people.

Duh. 
I haven't said anything about Muslims, fyi. Just religion in general.

Also, the w in Northwestern isn't supposed to be capitalized. 

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by th1nk

Originally Posted by bijald0331

One has to look at how religion exists in reality, not how it is scripted on paper.

you go to NorthWestern, right?
Go talk attend an MSA (Muslim Student Association) meeting or talk to a Muslim person who is knowledgeable about their religion, then figure out how the religion exists in reality.

What you'll find out is that Muslims are not all that different from other people.

Duh. 
I haven't said anything about Muslims, fyi. Just religion in general.

Also, the w in Northwestern isn't supposed to be capitalized. 

 

[rocathajordans23]

Go out and talk to and spend time with every muslim in the world and then comeback and let us know the portrayal is true or not.