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that is why i have not bough JB stuff for some time now. skipped the sj release. dont care about em.
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Animal Thug1539 wrote:
The quality doesn't justify the rise in prices because obviously the decrease is evident. This is a new age in buying shoes. It was apparent that technology is what shoe companys relied on during the "integrity" years. Now, your sales are based on what the shoe looks like. That's why the team jordans have the quality of what a retro model should have. Team Jordans lack the physical appearance of Air Jordan signature shoe, but make up with the quality because of WHAT it's used for. Nowadays, kids are buying these for fashion. From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. For you and me, it doesn't.
i'd agree with everything you said except for the highlighted portion
us older sneaker heads tend to romanticize what we believe is the golden era but in truth the shoes were way overpriced then
certainly their has been a decline in craftsmanship and materials used but there were crappy pairs within the old batches and the price point has NEVER beenjustified by the materials used or the construction
we buy them because we like the brand or the model or the colorway, etc
and we will continue to
other than that the comparison between jordans and reeboks is indeed flawed because the two brands have different market shares and reputations amongstconsumers.
lacoste can charge more for a polo shirt than nautica right now without worrying about whether their construction is truly superior.
hyundai can't charge as much as lexus even if they built their own es 300.
Originally Posted by Rafool
i'd agree with everything you said except for the highlighted portionOriginally Posted by yeerp
Animal Thug1539 wrote:
The quality doesn't justify the rise in prices because obviously the decrease is evident. This is a new age in buying shoes. It was apparent that technology is what shoe companys relied on during the "integrity" years. Now, your sales are based on what the shoe looks like. That's why the team jordans have the quality of what a retro model should have. Team Jordans lack the physical appearance of Air Jordan signature shoe, but make up with the quality because of WHAT it's used for. Nowadays, kids are buying these for fashion. From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. For you and me, it doesn't.
Originally Posted by s dubl
Im with you Tre...same reason why its rare that I buy Jordans anymore...the Pump 20 really opened my eyes on how quality a sneaker should be done.
Sorry guys, Im not here to bash JB fans, but these guys are taking full advantage of the hype around the sneaker...I mean c'mon I can see raise the price a few bucks, but $50 for crap quality, specila box and some stupid plastic inserts. When you're wearing the shoes no one is going to see the "cool box" or the "cool inserts" that cost you out the !@#.
Originally Posted by trethousandgt
i'd agree with everything you said except for the highlighted portionOriginally Posted by yeerp
Animal Thug1539 wrote:
The quality doesn't justify the rise in prices because obviously the decrease is evident. This is a new age in buying shoes. It was apparent that technology is what shoe companys relied on during the "integrity" years. Now, your sales are based on what the shoe looks like. That's why the team jordans have the quality of what a retro model should have. Team Jordans lack the physical appearance of Air Jordan signature shoe, but make up with the quality because of WHAT it's used for. Nowadays, kids are buying these for fashion. From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. For you and me, it doesn't.
us older sneaker heads tend to romanticize what we believe is the golden era but in truth the shoes were way overpriced then
certainly their has been a decline in craftsmanship and materials used but there were crappy pairs within the old batches and the price point has NEVER been justified by the materials used or the construction
we buy them because we like the brand or the model or the colorway, etc
and we will continue to
other than that the comparison between jordans and reeboks is indeed flawed because the two brands have different market shares and reputations amongst consumers.
lacoste can charge more for a polo shirt than nautica right now without worrying about whether their construction is truly superior.
hyundai can't charge as much as lexus even if they built their own es 300.
[color= rgb(255, 255, 0)]QFT and[/color]Originally Posted by Manglor
The price is justified by the fact people camped out in DECEMBER to pay 175 for XI's and paid even more on ebay after the fact.
As long as big fluffy sheep keep lining up to empty their parents pockets Jordan Brand will keep shaving them down and making sweaters.
Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
Good thread.
The quality doesn't justify the rise in prices because obviously the decrease is evident. This is a new age in buying shoes. It was apparent that technology is what shoe companys relied on during the "integrity" years. Now, your sales are based on what the shoe looks like. That's why the team jordans have the quality of what a retro model should have. Team Jordans lack the physical appearance of Air Jordan signature shoe, but make up with the quality because of WHAT it's used for. Nowadays, kids are buying these for fashion. From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. For you and me, it doesn't. Honest to God, I remember buying Cool Grey 11s, and wearing them that very same day for CYO basketball games. Same thing I did with black Cement 3s. I used the Air Jordan retro for what it was supposed to be used for. And this wasn't just ME, all my friends did it and so did every I knew who bought Air Jordans.
JB is similar to how gas is sold nowadays. You want regular gas, you pay regular prices...want premium? Pay premium prices. And 1539 ain't falling for it..
I understand what Animal Thug is saying, but for $175+ i expect a product of top quality true to the original...even if it is just for fashionOriginally Posted by sickickz23
Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
Good thread.
The quality doesn't justify the rise in prices because obviously the decrease is evident. This is a new age in buying shoes. It was apparent that technology is what shoe companys relied on during the "integrity" years. Now, your sales are based on what the shoe looks like. That's why the team jordans have the quality of what a retro model should have. Team Jordans lack the physical appearance of Air Jordan signature shoe, but make up with the quality because of WHAT it's used for. Nowadays, kids are buying these for fashion. From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. For you and me, it doesn't. Honest to God, I remember buying Cool Grey 11s, and wearing them that very same day for CYO basketball games. Same thing I did with black Cement 3s. I used the Air Jordan retro for what it was supposed to be used for. And this wasn't just ME, all my friends did it and so did every I knew who bought Air Jordans.
JB is similar to how gas is sold nowadays. You want regular gas, you pay regular prices...want premium? Pay premium prices. And 1539 ain't falling for it..
to this post and OP for making this great thread. Hopefully the new JB supporters will awaken from this
us older sneaker heads tend to romanticize what we believe is the golden era but in truth the shoes were way overpriced then
Expensive at the time, but in retrospect not overpriced. In 1988 I though $100 for some III's was a lot, but I'd be lying if I said Ididnt get my money's worth. I rocked them till there was no sole left on them. Fast forward to today, I have a pair of retro fire reds that chipped heavilyafter about a dozen wears and they cost 50% more. That's what I call overpriced.
This is the reason JB will fall, at some point they will run out of gas
The minute the needle gets close to "E", they'll just retro certain c/w's of certain shoes and the masses will flock......somebecause of nostalgia, some because of hype.
Originally Posted by trethousandgt
Ok, its pretty much well known at this point that their quality is for %!%!. But people come onto this forum trying to "defend" the price increases and lie to themselves saying the quality isn't that bad (even though i saw a post earlier with a pair of space jams that were leaning to the sides in opposite directions). Bottom line is their is no justification for the increase in price, its plain greed. They didn't do any advertising for the shoe, and the quality is worse so why the increase? Inflation you say? Wrong. So anyhow I came across these old reebok pump ads and i noticed that the price on the original's is either equal to or less than the retro's yet the quality of reebok's pump retro's is dead on to the og's.
Reebok has been VERY on point with their pump retro's, the quality has been basically that of the original release, everything has matched up, the cut of the shoe, the placement of colors the quality, and a reebok pump is more expensive to manufacture than a Jordan XI (im willing to bet on that). So how is it, that when reebok retro'd the premier edition pump they were able to sell it for the exact price from 1989. How is it that reebok was able to now retro the twilight zone pump and sell it for LESS than it cost in 1990? Reebok can do it and Jordan brand can't? It just goes to show you that they really are taking advantage of these younger kids, with the horrible quality of the spacejams and talk of a "premium quality" Jordan retro with a higher price tag its time to start really calling JB on their bull %!%!.
Notice the price is nearly 50 dollars less on the originals? And Nike had to advertise heavily for that shoe, R&D, quality materials and a cheaper retail price.
To me its not as much the price increase as the additude.I got a call from the Nikestore and this is the message I got.
We will be passing out numbers at 8-830 on the 23rd.We will call your number at 845.You can then enter the store and buy one pair.
I called back to ask about how many pairs they had.She wouldnt/couldnt tell me.
At this point it became a easy pass for me.Wait in the cold to maybe get a crappy retro at 175?I dont think so.
If I was assured of getting a pair at that price fine.But a lottery?Please.