Jordan 4 BRED

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Hello.

I am interested in buying Jordans. I found two auctions of these shoes. Can you guys check whether they are real or fake?

FIRST (around 230$)

SECOND (around 150$)

THANKS in advance! :)
 
Second pair is 100% Fake. The first pair looks like it has the wrong material, but it could be the pictures. Ask the seller of the first pair, for a picture of the TWENTYTWELVE engraving that is on the side of the tongue, and the black plastic tissue paper in the box.
 
Thank you so much for helping!

I got already pictures which you asked for.
 
As stated above first pair doesn't look that bad but second pair definitely fake. Tongue isn't thick enough
 
So what do you think about the first pair? Fake or real? Pics in my second post are also of the first pair. 
 
First pair looks good to me. Wait to pull the trigger, I need to double check a few things on my pair.
 
 
Both pairs are fake.
the first pair I honestly thought was legit until I looked closer at the tongue and the box. the engraving seemed on point too, but when I noticed the Jumpman on the insole didn't have the correct detail, I reevaluated the shoe. Seems like the Jumpman on the top of the box & insole is a solid tell with fakes now.
 
 
the first pair I honestly thought was legit until I looked closer at the tongue and the box. the engraving seemed on point too, but when I noticed the Jumpman on the insole didn't have the correct detail, I reevaluated the shoe. Seems like the Jumpman on the top of the box & insole is a solid tell with fakes now.
I first thought they were legit too but that box gave it away.
 
Anybody notice that see through wrong black paper @agsz @raphp @madriftw. Another giveaway on fakes. The paper should be opaque and not see through and should have these little divits in it. AJ4s, 5s, and 6s all have exact same black paper in box.
 
Anybody notice that see through wrong black paper @agsz @raphp @madriftw. Another giveaway on fakes. The paper should be opaque and not see through and should have these little divits in it. AJ4s, 5s, and 6s all have exact same black paper in box.
Yea, I honestly overlooked it and figured it was right under a light or something.
 
Notice the little dots/divits in this legit paper? @Agsz
Yeah. My GM Thunder 4's had the same exact paper too. GM's will never get everything right at least. Main tell right now for me on 3's and 4's is the Jumpman logo they use.
 
Yeah. My GM Thunder 4's had the same exact paper too. GM's will never get everything right at least. Main tell right now for me on 3's and 4's is the Jumpman logo they use.
Yeah when they pull that switcharoo on u and put fakes in legit boxes with legit tags and receipt and everything is becoming ever more popular
 
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