Merkur (XR4Ti and Scorpio)...any NTers know about em or own one?

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I own a 1989 Merkur Scorpio and was wondering if any other NTers have or had a Merkur, or are interested in these cars? I thought it would be cool if I couldfind a couple sneakerheads who also share a passion for (or at least an interest in) Merkurs.

Here's a couple pics of mine...

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Originally Posted by pookieman

That shares the same platform as the OG Taurus right? What engine does it have?

Nope, neither the Scorpio (nor the XR4Ti for that matter) share the same platform as the Taurus. The XR4Ti was based on the European Ford Sierra platform,while the Scorpio was all it's own (although some bits from the Sierra were used). Also, Tauruses are front wheel drive, Merkurs are rear wheeldrive.
The Scorpio has a German-built Ford 2.9L V6 and the XR4Ti has a Brazilian-built Ford 2.3L Turbocharged I4.
 
nice car, i unfortunately know nothing about them. is it a EDM or USDM? i dont think i've ever seen one in my life but it does remind me of the old hyundaisonata 1's.
 
Originally Posted by ThuG LyFe

is it a EDM or USDM?
In a way, both. The Merkur was a "captive import." Both were German cars intended for the European market and sold there under theFord brand. But when Ford decided to import them to the U.S. and Canada, they created the Merkur brand name. This brand name was never available anywhereoutside the the U.S. or Canada, despite the fact the car was not produced in either country.

Other good examples of "captive imports" are the Sterling 825/827 (known everywhere outside North America as Rover 825/827) and Geo (all Japanesevehicles, but sold under a GM brand that was not available anywhere else in the world).
 
Interesting.

edit: I just got done doing a little research on these and im impressived. Not sure how they would handle on a track but these would make for a hell of asleeper car. Or even just a nice old school car. How much do these run usually?
 
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word, id cop one of those cars just because of the name badge

i can for sure see my dude hellrell use this car in a punchline
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Originally Posted by Mangudai954

Interesting.

edit: I just got done doing a little research on these and im impressived. Not sure how they would handle on a track but these would make for a hell of a sleeper car. Or even just a nice old school car. How much do these run usually?

The handling is perhaps one of the best attributes of these cars. Many Merkur owners I know (particularly owners of XRs) take them to the track.
The XR is quicker off the line than a Scorpio because it is lighter and the turbocharged 4-cylinder puts out more horses than the normally-aspirated V6in the Scorpio. The XR is a thoroughbred sports car without a doubt, while the Scorpio runs with the best of the sports sedans from its time.

As for price, they can be had pretty cheaply. You can get a top-notch Scorpio or XR for less than $4,000 (often a lot less). For a project car, $500-$1,500is a typical range. My car cost me $1,400 back in 1998. However, over the years, restoration and maintenance has cost me over $15k.

So to make a long story short, buying a Merkur usually doesn't cost a whole lot. Restoring them is not cheap though, and maintaining them can be a bit ofa pain and quite costly sometimes. Some parts are hard to come by and expensive, and if you're not mechanically-inclined, finding a shop that will work ona Merkur is very hard.

Just like any old car, Merkurs do have some notably vulnerabilities. Electronics, heads/head gaskets, and ******s can be problematic. But these problems canbe corrected with slight modification and using updated parts for replacement. The Merkur Club of America, MerkurSport, the International Merkur OwnersNetwork and the Merkur Desktop are all great sites to find out how to go about resolving old bugs.

When anyone tells me they want a Merkur, I tell them go for it because they're great cars. In fact, I'm picking up my second Scorpio next month. Justdo A LOT of research and be prepared to spend a good chunk of change to keep it in tip-top condition.
 
So what's the appeal of these cars? I'm not particularly pleased by it aesthetically, but perhaps there's a back story?
 
Originally Posted by Russ tha G

So what's the appeal of these cars? I'm not particularly pleased by it aesthetically, but perhaps there's a back story?

For me, the appeal of the Scorpio comes from:
  • Great handling
  • Very comfortable
  • Rarity (less than 21k made altogether, only about 6k made in 1989)
  • Unusual features (electrically-relining rear seats, computerized climate control system)
  • Styling (I agree the design is love-it-or-hate-it...I'm just in the love-it crowd)
  • Having people come up to me in parking lots and gas stations and ask "what the *bleep* is that?" (Quite amusing lol)
  • Friendships in the small-but-devoted owners community
 
Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

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Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

I remember these cars not being very reliable when they were new.
Admittedly they had their issues. But they were far more reliable than most people think. Electrical issues tended to be one of the mainconcerns,.and that applies to just about all European cars from the time.
 
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Damn. I didn't see who the OP was, so I was about to come into this thread and say, "I think there's a dude on here who's sn isMerkurposite or something."
 
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Love the scorpio.
For some reason it reminds me of the 87' Maxima V6 (Don't ask me why but both are appreciated)

Nice pick up 10 years ago.
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Originally Posted by enlightenedespot

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Love the scorpio.
For some reason it reminds me of the 87' Maxima V6 (Don't ask me why but both are appreciated)

Nice pick up 10 years ago.
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Thanks dude!
 
Originally Posted by ardeedas

My buddy used to have a turbo XR4Ti .. !*++ was quick.

The XR can be scary quick, nd they take well to mods.

A friend of mine is putting out 535 hp at the rear wheels with the 2.3 four...I kid you not.

Here's a video of it on a dyno...
 
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