No. This has BEEN the case. No variants, period. They're not cute. They're not clever. They're certainly not respectful - and they're not allowed.
Originally Posted by DA MATRIX 1
so chuck is the new edited version of the martial artist now i think im gonna start saying Sen say
"chill with that sen say "
"chill chuck "
how the hell is that partially edited anything? that is just gibberish.... when you type a censored word that automatically comes up. so we would get banned for that?
Really? You must not know that many people.
But I fail to see the relation of the words, "honky" and "Negro". I would agree that the term "honky" is derogative, but the term "Negro" is more of a, term, for a racial category in the same proportion as "Caucasian". In history classes today they refer to the black race as "Negro", as in "Negroid", just as "Caucasian" is to "Caucasoid".
Did your teacher tell you where that actually COMES from?
In 1776, German anthropologist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach's On the Natural Varieties of Mankind introduced the world to five races:Caucasian, Mongolian, Ethiopian, American, and Malay. Today, they're perhaps better known as white, yellow, black, red, and brown, respectively. Blumenbach's methodology relied on phrenology, the long discredited practice of using skull shape as an indicator for intelligence, personality traits,etc.
Blumenbach believed the Caucasus was the origin of the white race due to the ludicrous and incredibly subjective belief that the most beautiful skulls hestudied came from that region.They were "the most handsome and becoming," having "the most beautiful form of the skull."It followed, atleast to Blumenbach, that the most beautiful people were self-evidently the purest - and thus the Caucasus must be the origin of humanity. All other races, heclaimed, diverged from this white prototype.
In the middle of the nineteenth century, those five races were simplified to three: Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. So, to say it's the"technical" term is sort of like saying that earth, wind, fire, water, and phlogiston are technical terms describing the natural elements. It'sa false typology, and just as "mongoloid" is considered offensive, so, too, is "negroid" and its derivatives. In understanding how thistypology was created and deployed, I'm sure you can appreciate why people reject it.
I can see if someone used the term "Negro" in the same context of "you people" and how that is offensive, but only in that context. The term in general should not be offensive, but proper to an extent (as far as I know).
Just look at how people were using "n_." "This n_...." etc. Replace that with "negro." Is that much of an improvement? We said no substitutes. We don't want people using"ninja" in its place. Why would we allow this?
Describe to me a situation where you think it SHOULD be used.
Look at how Eddie Murphy uses the word in this classic skit, for example:
"...and then he used a derogatory term for negro ".
It's widely considered less offensive than the alternative "n-word." That doesn't meanyou should go around using it at whim, for the reasons stated in my previous post. However, we're going to enforce this largely on the basis of context. My point is that you can't use that word as yet another "n-word substitute." That should make sense. We don't want people using racialslurs on NT, period. When people try to get cute and get around it, we need to close those perceived loopholes.
Kids used to try the same nonsense when I was in elementary school. They'd say "Shut the..... front door." etc. It's just that childishand, as a community, I'd like to think we're better than that.
Honestly I don't wanna see a fellow beloved poster get banned for posting something like "&#@!@". I mean "$@$#" could be interpreted as "AAHHHH" or "GRRRR" in context of frustration.
The part of the original post that includes $*&# etc. is quoting words on our rules page that have been added to the profanity filter and soappear as #*(&#. We're not going to ban you if the profanity filter kicks in or if you type #*(%& in exasperation, etc. HOWEVER, we have to makedeterminations based on context to prevent abuse. If someone replies to your post with "#(%& you!" we're going to interpret that as apersonal attack. The individual who created the post may very well counter with a childish defense like "well I didn't mean that, I meant FORGET you." Right, and that's why it had to be censored...
You're not going to get banned unless you're being disrespectful. Just banning people for typing #(%&* doesn't serve any constructive purpose. Eliminating the loopholes people utilize in order to disrespect their fellow members, however, is important in maintaining the type of positive atmosphere wecan all enjoy.
We are not allowed to say "This ninja SMH" or "this ninja" but we can say things such as "this fool" "this idiot" "this dude" "this guy", they all have the same connotations as what we are discussing now.
First of all, we don't want people using racial slurs or variants to try to sneak in a racial slur substitute. That's disrespectfulREGARDLESS of context.
Second, users are NOT allowed to disrespect one another. Personal attacks have always been against the rules. You can't say "Dirtylicious is anidiot." We have allowed users to say "Mike D'Antoni is an idiot," "George Bush is an idiot," etc.
However, as stated in our rules, Derogatory comments regarding race, ethnic background, language, gender, sexual orientation orreligion are strictly prohibited.
This isn't about changing the rules, it's about making sure people don't break the existing rules. We don't allow peopleto buy or sell outside the buy/sell forums. If somebody starts a post and says "Man, those Flightposites are so hot... I wish there were some way I couldget them.... in a size 10... wink." That's an attempt to get around the rule. The same is true for attempts to insult other members using indirectreferences or using abbreviations to disparage homosexuality. We don't allow that.
This is NOT a new policy - it's just a policy that, for whatever reason, people don't seem to understand. So, we're trying to give people fairwarning, AGAIN, to prevent people from getting banned.
