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Name me a country that doesn’t have blood in its hands historically, I’m a proud Colombian, not directly proud of our violent past at all, I don’t think most Colombians would be, but indirectly if you are a proud Colombian you guys will all assume is because of it, since that’s pretty much what Colombia is most famous for....and as I said, I grew up poor, my family directly benefited positively from things Pablo did in his time alive, however that came at a price as well, hence the mixed emotions towards him.
Dude please spare me, that is a Trumpian type deflection. And I said no criticism of Colombia, none, I was criticizing Pablo and you for your defense of him.

Pablo Escobar was not just a drug kingpin that went to war with other in the drug trade, others that knew what they were getting into; that would be one thing. The man was also terrorist that blew up innocent little children just to scare politicians because he didn't want to pay for his actions like coward that he was. He is some of the worst kind of scum, he is Biden levels of low life. You seem so lost in the sauce you think insulting Pablo now means insulting Colombia? Man WTF. I insult Pablo because I believe he his actions left a dark mark on a country filled with good people.

There should be no mixed emotions, stop using your country as a shield to cape for this child murdering low life.

Sexy ya morals up, b.

And **** Pablo Escobar
 
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Dude please spare me, that is a Trumpian type deflection. And I said no criticism of Colombia, none, I was criticizing Pablo and you for your defense of him.

Pablo Escobar was not just a drug kingpin that went to war with other in the drug trade, others that knew what they were getting into; that would be one thing. The man was also terrorist that blew up innocent little children just to scare politicians because he didn't want to pay for his actions like coward that he was. He is some of the worst kind of scum, he is Biden levels of low life. You seem so lost in the sauce you think insulting Pablo now means insulting Colombia? Man WTF. I insult Pablo because I believe he his actions left a dark mark on a country filled with good people.

There should be no mixed emotions, stop using your country as a shield to cape for this child murdering low life.

Sexy ya morals up, b.

And **** Pablo Escobar


Bruh spare me the Pablo history, i lived it....i lost family members through that drug war, I’ll say it again, IM NOT PROUD OF THAT HISTORY and it’s quite annoying when everyone affiliates Cocaine with Colombia because of Pablo, however up until he started murdering innocent people when he didn’t get his way, this cat was well involvef in uprising the forgotten communities and slums....communities i grew up in as a kid....that is all I’m saying....I don’t expect you to understand because you simply didn’t have the same direct experience as I did...so is best you hop off that high horse.
 
Bruh spare me the Pablo history, i lived it....i lost family members through that drug war, I’ll say it again, IM NOT PROUD OF THAT HISTORY and it’s quite annoying when everyone affiliates Cocaine with Colombia because of Pablo, however up until he started murdering innocent people when he didn’t get his way, this cat was well involvef in uprising the forgotten communities and slums....communities i grew up in as a kid....that is all I’m saying....I don’t expect you to understand because you simply didn’t have the same direct experience as I did...so is best you hop off that high horse.
First off, you are the one affiliating Pablo with Colombia the most because of the caping you do for him.

You lost family members to the violence he help fuel, and you "still have mixed feelings" :smh: :lol:

Miss me, not matter what he did before he started murdering little school children, that should not be enough to have "mixed feelings" about him.
 
And wtf is caping for him? Because my experience is slightly different than probably most NTers? I’m I denying all the scum **** he did? Of course not...dude lost his damn mind and the second he started letting off bombs everywhere he lost the love a lot of people had for him....bruh to the people living in poverty in medellin there was a period of time this cat was a straight up Robin Hood and was highly loved.
 
First off, you are the one affiliating Pablo with Colombia the most because of the caping you do for him.

You lost family members to the violence he help fuel, and you "still have mixed feelings" :smh: :lol:

Miss me, not matter what he did before he started murdering little school children, that should not be enough to have "mixed feelings" about him.


THATS HOW YOU FEEL! Good, I’m not trying to change your mind.
 
I thought he did help the slums out to help his political push before they “realized” the bad look of having a politician in the government with heavy drug ties?
 
And wtf is caping for him? Because my experience is slightly different than probably most NTers? I’m I denying all the scum **** he did? Of course not...dude lost his damn mind and the second he started letting off bombs everywhere he lost the love a lot of people had for him....bruh to the people living in poverty in medellin there was a period of time this cat was a straight up Robin Hood and was highly loved.
He was not just stealing from the rich though. He was helping push poison into poor urban American, fueling violence there, and giving the Federal government reason to plunder my people. Maybe because you didn't live that part, you don't understand.
 
And this discussion is about Narcos, so of course the topic would be Pablo, dudes are claiming the Mexican Cartels story is more interesting, I simply said that’s not true because Colombians drew the blueprint to drug trade....wether good or bad, is irrelevant, it’s HISTORY and it can still be INTERESTING either way.

Colombian drug trade >>>> Mexican

End of story.
 
He was not just stealing from the rich though. He was helping push poison into poor urban American, fueling violence there, and giving the Federal government reason to plunder my people. Maybe because you didn't live that part, you don't understand.


But cocaine wasn’t the drug of choice in poor urban American communities....
 
Now you trying to divert this into a race topic....been there too many times with you, NOT TAKING THE BAIT :lol:
 
I thought he did help the slums out to help his political push before they “realized” the bad look of having a politician in the government with heavy drug ties?

He was helping the poor way before he diecided to go political, maybe it was because he had so much money he simply didn’t know what to do with it so he started dumping it into the hoods....but yeah once he went political and that part of Colombia wasn’t rocking with him, he really went off the deep end
 
But cocaine wasn’t the drug of choice in poor urban American communities....
You can't invoke your nationality whenever you want and talk about the poverty you faced push an argument, then runaway when someone points out something that breaks that argument.

But ok, we can end it here, just answer this....

What is crack cocaine made with?
 
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I thought he did help the slums out to help his political push before they “realized” the bad look of having a politician in the government with heavy drug ties?

How are you helping slums when your pushing drugs there? He may have done some things but it was to adopt a clean image to the people he was harming
 
Oh he didnt? :rofl: and you would know this how?

What major criminal in the history of human civilization has helped out the poor out of the goodness of his heart? Name one that hasn't done so in order to create a false positive reputation in order to be ultimately protected by those people when @#$@ goes south. It's basically a bribe dressed up as a "blessing". People who deify these narcos after receiving financial help end up hiding their whereabouts, not cooperating with the police, spreading misinformation, etc. Forget criminals, even our Republican government right now is doing the same thing.

You suggesting that Pablo was morally superior to every narco EVER means that his propaganda worked on you :lol:

Do you know how the Mexican cartels operate? Ask any Mexican who's from those cartel run areas. Locals are provided "benefits" and end up being brainwashed into thinking that they're being helped by Robin Hood figures. These narcos usually have humble beginnings that these locals can relate to. That's why narcocorridos exist and cartel figures are treated as saints. People who refuse to accept these end up "disappearing". That doesn't sound even mildly familiar to you? Somehow that's bloodthirsty, but Pablo Escobar wasn't?

You're right, Pablo wrote the blueprint, but stop acting like he was some well intentioned guy who ended up losing his mind after being corrupted by politics. All of these dudes are the same
 
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Just finished S4 & I liked it a lot. They didn’t take as many liberties with the Mexican story as they did with Pablo’s & the Cali Cartel stories with the exception that Félix was behind the kidnaping & torturing of Kiki.

I kinda wish they didn’t show as much of Kiki’s torture bcs of the violence porn aspect but it could’ve been so much worse I guess. It’s crazy to think how that poor dude spent the last days of his life.

I really really really liked the score & the soundtrack of S4. One of the best I’ve heard in a show in recent times.

The gringo narrating S4 really bothered me but I guess there was a reason for it.

I honestly can’t say this is better than other seasons or vice versa. Each season has been great. This one might be the most well put together though.

Kudos to Pena & Luna.

:rofl:Why is Pablo always adjusting his pants making sure his shirt is tucked in. Was this a nervous habit he had in real life?!?!?
 
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Just finished S4 & I liked it a lot. They didn’t take as many liberties with the Mexican story as they did with Pablo’s & the Cali Cartel stories with the exception that Félix was behind the kidnaping & torturing of Kiki.

I kinda wish they didn’t show as much of Kiki’s torture bcs of the violence porn aspect but it could’ve been so much worse I guess. It’s crazy to think how that poor dude spent the last days of his life.

I really really really liked the score & the soundtrack of S4. One of the best I’ve heard in a show in recent times.

The gringo narrating S4 really bothered me but I guess there was a reason for it.

I honestly can’t say this is better than other seasons or vice versa. Each season has been great. This one might be the most well put together though.

Kudos to Pena & Luna.

:rofl:Why is Pablo always adjusting his pants making sure his shirt is tucked in. Was this a nervous habit he had in real life?!?!?

Kiki murder/torture was much more gruesome then depicted on the show.(skinned his legs,bullet in every limb and electric drill to the skull). They referenced him in the first season of narcos .


I believe the pants pulling up thing was an actual habit pablo had lol.
 
This is probably a dumb question. But what would’ve happened had they shot Felix when the guy had a clear shot at the border?

I know the dea and all of them had to play by rules and all that to an extreme but with all the corruption with the Mexican cops and government, their hands were tied in so many ways.

Crazy what happened to Kiki though. I remember reading about that when it was mentioned in season 1 a few years back. If it wasn’t him, it would’ve been another agent the way things were going at that time.
 
This is probably a dumb question. But what would’ve happened had they shot Felix when the guy had a clear shot at the border?

I know the dea and all of them had to play by rules and all that to an extreme but with all the corruption with the Mexican cops and government, their hands were tied in so many ways.

Crazy what happened to Kiki though. I remember reading about that when it was mentioned in season 1 a few years back. If it wasn’t him, it would’ve been another agent the way things were going at that time.
I think the Americans or at least those Americans would've gotten kicked out of Mexico. Think of how Rafa was able to board that plane after the agents had a fire fight with him, yet the Mexican agent boarded the plane with him and off they went. As you can imagine, the Mexican gov probably would've put a spin on Felix's death as an example of American overreach and used the extrajudicial killing as their excuse for kicking the Americans out.
 
I legit thought it was Murphy narrating season 4 all the way to the end. I was surprised to find out that wasn't him.
 
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