Niketalk, how do I become a valet driver and what skills do I need?

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I know how to drive. Is that it? I am thinking about getting a second job because I am bored on weekends and after my day job but don't want to think or work too hard. I know some NTers mentioned money scheming in another thread but didn't go very far into depth, what was that about?

Reading this made it seem like good times could be had

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http://www.edmunds.com/dr...-of-a-parking-valet.html

Confessions of a Parking Valet

True Tales of Mishaps and Mischief

Published: 02/12/2009
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Scott Jacobs for Edmunds

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Is your car in good hands with a valet? Maybe, maybe not. Parking at an upscale establishment is no guarantee.

Introduction

It can be nerve-wracking handing your car keys to a total stranger at a valet station. You don't know if they're responsible drivers, what their definition of "gentle" is, or often where your car is headed. If all parking valets were trustworthy, there wouldn't be a need for the "valet key" that prevents one from opening the trunk and glovebox.

When we decided to delve into the secret life of valet parking attendants, we expected some stories about concealed door dings, petty theft or occasional hijinks behind the wheel. But we had no idea the extent to which some valets routinely take liberties with their customers' property.

Our "confessor" (let's call him Mark) has worked both at upscale hotels and small valet parking companies and has seen (and done) his share of mischief. He shares his experience with us, no holds barred. Learning how valets think and how some of them treat your property might make you reconsider self-parking.

Who's Parking Your Car?

According to Mark, most parking valets fall into three general categories. The first is student types seeking flexible hours and a job that doesn't require much training. The second group is often working nights after another job, and are often the most dedicated employees. The third and smallest group are folks often unable to hold down any other work, and they're the most prone to hitting poles in parking lots, losing keys and disrespecting customers.

"There's a big difference between valet parking companies in terms of the quality of people they hire to park cars," Mark explains. "One company I worked for tested applicants' reading and basic math, required a copy of your seven-year driving record and demanded a background and credit check. I guess they figure the ones with really bad credit would be more apt to steal from customers. Another company wanted a high school diploma — that's it. They didn't even read my application before offering me a shift."

Our confessor pointed out that few driving skills are required, and some companies employ people who don't have a driver license. "Valet companies might ask if you drive a stick when they hire you, but if you don't, you can just let other valets handle those cars. Some valets aren't as friendly to stick-shift cars as they should be, especially high-end cars like Porsches and BMWs. They might drop the clutch or drive at 50 miles per hour in 2nd gear. Nothing that's going to destroy the car, but it's unnecessary abuse. Most valets don't understand the intricacies of driving performance cars either. They don't realize how low to the ground they are and sometimes run over the concrete parking stops, scraping up the car."

It's All About the Tips

Valet parking is a service job, much like being a server at a restaurant. Pay is based largely on tips and most valets will usually do their best to earn a good one. "Valets always find out about a good tipper and make sure to take good care of that customer. My company pools all the tips, so there's no competition for the 'best' customers. But in smaller operations, if you're given a tip, you just pocket it."

Many assume that the people with the nicest cars will leave the biggest tips, but that's not always the case. "I drive all sorts of luxury cars for people who tip very little or not at all. The customers who have experience working crappy jobs are the ones who have more empathy and tend to tip better. A lot of people who are 'forced' to valet by the hotel assume they don't have to tip. Maybe they think the hotel is paying the valets better than they are, but we're making minimum wage plus tips."

How much to tip? A survey of so-called "tipping guides" indicates a wide range, anything from $1 to $10 depending on the situation. An informal poll of Edmunds editors elicited a similarly wide array of answers — anywhere from "nothing" to $10 or more at a hotel, but averaged $2-$3, paid when retrieving the vehicle.

Parking Pitfalls

"There are the usual mistakes like dings or scrapes that are just accidents," Mark explains. "Park enough cars and it's bound to happen, especially on really busy days." The most common valet mishap is misplacing keys, which has various origins. "If a lazy valet doesn't put a ticket on the customer's keychain, or the key is incorrectly placed on the valet board, or the ticket gets ripped off or the parking location is written down incorrectly, or you, the customer, lose your valet ticket, then we have no idea which car is yours."

A valet's favorite scenario? "Let's say you've given us a valet key to a car and it doesn't have a remote door unlock on the fob. But the valet didn't mark down the right parking stall on the valet ticket. So when you come to pick up your car, we don't know where it is. We don't have a remote that can sound the horn either, so we have to run up and down all the rows, trying the key in every car of that brand."

The oddest mix-up? "The exact same rental cars got swapped between two customers. No one noticed until one of them tried to return it to Hertz. In that case, it took us two days to sort it out."

What Annoys Valets Most

It would seem like common sense to avoid angering someone with the keys to your car. If you really want to annoy a valet (at your own risk), keep asking for your car to be brought around over and over again to get something out of it. "If you tell us everything you want from the car the first time, we'll bring it all back for you. It saves everyone time that way."

Another gripe is forgetting to explain a car's quirks, such as complex security systems or aftermarket modifications — including vertically opening gullwing doors. "When one of the valets pulled the door open [on a 2005 Mustang convertible], we heard a horrible crunching noise and the door wouldn't move. What the owner had neglected to tell anyone was that he had a 'Lambo' door conversion kit on the car, and that the door didn't open as normal."

A favorite pet peeve of many valets is cars that reflect poor personal hygiene — they may smell, have trash everywhere or look like they've never seen the inside of a car wash. "When you're afraid of contracting a disease by sitting in the seat, it's generally a bad sign."

The worst is forgetting to leave the keys with the valet on a busy day, far easier to do these days with so many "keyless" ignitions. "We can't move the car, and it clogs the driveway while we have to track you down somewhere."

Revenge of the Valet...or Just for Fun

If you're particularly rude, aggravating or have stiffed on a tip in the past, there are a number of things the valet staff might do in response. Notably, most valets won't show annoyance or anger the customer. "First and easiest, we'll take a long time to bring your car up, and we're not going to take the time to put your seat and mirrors back the way they were. But I have known valets who lower tire pressures, change climate and radio settings, or intentionally ding the door or scrape paint in a place where it's not easily noticed. There's nothing better than getting your revenge and getting them to tip you, too."

When you're not around to see it, there's a lot valets do:

Blast the stereo and change the radio stations: "Any time that I have a car with a good stereo in it, I take an extra minute to check out the sound quality. I also change the satellite radio station, but I almost always change it back."
Speed in a parking structure or on the street while driving to a lot: "We once had a running contest going to see who could get the fastest top speed inside the hotel parking structure. I set the record with a 55-mph run in a Porsche 996 GT2."
Rev the engines of performance cars: "I can't help revving up the engines of the cool cars I get to park. My favorite was a Lamborghini Gallardo. I drove it straight to the top floor and called all of my friends in my phonebook. I said, 'Guess what I'm driving!' then stuck the phone out the window and revved the engine. Heck, I even called my parents and did that."
Drift: "After our parking garage is cleaned, we have to re-park all of the cars back in the structure. Of course, having an empty, wet parking structure just begs for a little hoonage. I take every rear-wheel-drive rental car and find out how well they drift going up the structure. Surprisingly, the Chrysler Crossfire does a great job. Gotta love rental cars; they take the most abuse."
Go through the customer's property: "Though I personally never rifled through anyone's belongings, I hear plenty of, 'You should have seen what I found in this person's car' while we're standing around waiting for cars to pull in."

With all these shenanigans happening with your car, is the management aware? "Our manager doesn't know about most of this stuff," Mark admits, "but he helps cover up our mistakes sometimes. He always keeps a container of rubbing compound and wax in the office in case there's a scrape. We'll clean and buff the affected areas and pray the customers don't notice. Most of the time, they don't. I have seen managers rub out many small scrapes and never report the incident."

Advice for Customers

Remember, you are giving one of the most expensive things you own to a complete stranger. You would be surprised how far a smile, a good attitude and even a little pleasant small talk will get you. If you're pleasant and tip, most valets will go way beyond the call of duty. Here's what to keep in mind, according to Mark:

Realize that it's not all about you: "We're dealing with many, sometimes hundreds, of customers a day. Time is money for us, too."
Don't leave valuables or anything illegal in your car: "Not if you want them to be there when you get back. We've found drugs, adult-only items, even guns." Smaller items are more likely to be taken.
Clean the interior as well as the exterior once in awhile: "And for God's sake, use a trash bag."
If your car is damaged or anything is missing, tell the valet manager and get a copy of the incident report and the contact information of their insurance company. Don't accept it if he asserts that the "release of liability" language on your ticket absolves them — it won't stand up in court.
Valets at a hotel usually work for a contracted company, so if you have any problems with their service, notify hotel management. They can help resolve disputes in your favor.
Be wary in major cities where valets must park cars on the street. If a valet parks illegally or forgets to feed the meter, the customer can get stuck with the ticket.
Tip a little when you drop off the car, especially at a hotel, and your car will get better treatment: "The valets will be more likely to 'keep it close' in the hope that you're a good tipper and that you'll reward them for bringing up your car quickly."
Evening shifts are the roughest for hotel valets: "We work our butts off to park all the cars of the people checking in and barely make any tips. The morning shift makes big tips the next day when people get their cars to go places or check out of the hotel."
Reward a valet for working hard. "If it's raining and he appears with an umbrella, or he towels down your seat to keep you dry, he deserves a bigger tip. But don't worry about not giving a tip if you don't like the service."
You get what you give: "Your car will usually get the same treatment that you give us, for better or for worse."

There are plenty of honest, hard-working parking valets out there who want nothing more than to serve their customers and earn a living. So when you drop your car off, it's a good idea to look your valet in the eye and acknowledge that he's a person, too. If not for that reason, then at least to improve the odds of getting your car back exactly as you left it.
 
Are you in good shape? I know out here in Vegas, they like fit dudes, because they do a lot of running.

EDIT: I just remembered you posting in that Fat NTers row call thread.
 
Im guessing a clean driving record. no arrest perhaps driving experience from a company. because nobody wants an unexperienced driver behind the wheel of there porshe or ferrari. u feeel me, can u drive stick
 
Originally Posted by Night Marcher01

Are you in good shape? I know out here in Vegas, they like fit dudes, because they do a lot of running.

EDIT: I just remembered you posting in that Fat NTers row call thread.

I can run just fine. I figured being 6ft tall would be more of an issue, but then again my hommie Marcus used to valet at the hospital and he was 6'7.

lol: googled my height and weight to prove I'm not nearly as fat as most people think (most people if they had to guess guess 230), but the variation you get is hilarios so it proves nothing

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not as fat as this guy, not as fat or brolic as this female
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slightly fatter than this dude probably
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way fatter than homie on the left
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this kat might be the closest but none of it went to his face unlike my fatass face
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Originally Posted by Night Marcher01

Are you in good shape? I know out here in Vegas, they like fit dudes, because they do a lot of running.

EDIT: I just remembered you posting in that Fat NTers row call thread.


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Originally Posted by Scientific Method

Originally Posted by Night Marcher01

Are you in good shape? I know out here in Vegas, they like fit dudes, because they do a lot of running.

EDIT: I just remembered you posting in that Fat NTers row call thread.

I can run just fine. I figured being 6ft tall would be more of an issue, but then again my hommie Marcus used to valet at the hospital and he was 6'7.

Well other than knowing how to drive stick, reverse parking and parallel. I really don't see any qualifications. It's fairly easy to work for valet over here.
 
Originally Posted by Night Marcher01

Are you in good shape? I know out here in Vegas, they like fit dudes, because they do a lot of running.

EDIT: I just remembered you posting in that Fat NTers row call thread.

Right? Dudes are gonna be pulling up in their Z4's, see this guy and think "this might not work out..."
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-learn how to drive a manual.
-always keep your uniform on point.

-keep some basic car care product around. you never know when you might need to buff some +##% out. 

-keep a sharp mouthpiece and be attentive, it'll help you get tips.

I never valeted but I figure this stuff is just common sense. 
 
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Maybe you're right, do see tons of those Nissan's but I still maintain my long legs is going to be more a problem than my girth not getting it.

Umm, what else is there? I don't want to do food service, bar tender, working at the mall would be cool but I feel like I'm too old, back to the drawing board I guess
 
i currently do valet, it's a fun job, depending on where you work at

all you really need to know how to do is drive a stick, you need to be fairly familiar with how to drive different types of cars too
 
go ask one of the managers if they can put you down.. its really that easy.
 
Im one..read that article, and its about 99% accurate...Evening valet sucks when you think that morning guy is getting all your money..I def do keep turtle wax in my trunk just in case, and good tippers get great service, and crappy tippers usually get put in the garage across the street. When it's good, it's good, when its crappy its crappy!! but everyday you leave with cash!
 
I wouldn't mind doing something like this for some extra cash. Many of my college friends valeted to pick up some extra cash during school. Some nights they walked away with a grip because of that diplomat/defense contractor money.  I was stupid for not going to the openings.
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Craziest story was how one had a drunk diplomat's wife (some older Persian woman) try to give him some cranium between the spot and where the cars were parked. He turned her down though because he had a gf. 
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Originally Posted by eight2one

Im one..read that article, and its about 99% accurate...Evening valet sucks when you think that morning guy is getting all your money..I def do keep turtle wax in my trunk just in case, and good tippers get great service, and crappy tippers usually get put in the garage across the street. When it's good, it's good, when its crappy its crappy!! but everyday you leave with cash

Daily pay >
 
I would never use valet service for a nice car...

http://now.msn.com/now/0416-valet-hotel-crash.aspx
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Remember in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" when Cameron doesn't want to leave his dad's Ferrari with a valet? "What's going to happen to it?" Sloane asks. "It's in a garage." THIS could happen, as a (former?) valet at Miami's appropriately named Epic Hotel illustrates. Details are scarce, but the approximately $400,000 pileup reportedly happened when a valet drove a Maserati into -- and under -- a Jeep Grand Cherokee, which crashed into a Mini Cooper and a vintage Porsche 356. Local 10 reports that "the driver of the Maserati [came] down the garage ramp too fast, lost control and drove his luxury sports car right under the SUV." Yeah, we're guessing he didn't get a tip.
 
try to work for an in house service, not a huge company.  it's way easier to scheme money that way.  i was making 300 a day when i was working at this lounge a while ago.  don't valet anymore though.
 
Originally Posted by voodoo

I would never use valet service for a nice car...

http://now.msn.com/now/0416-valet-hotel-crash.aspx
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Remember in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" when Cameron doesn't want to leave his dad's Ferrari with a valet? "What's going to happen to it?" Sloane asks. "It's in a garage." THIS could happen, as a (former?) valet at Miami's appropriately named Epic Hotel illustrates. Details are scarce, but the approximately $400,000 pileup reportedly happened when a valet drove a Maserati into -- and under -- a Jeep Grand Cherokee, which crashed into a Mini Cooper and a vintage Porsche 356. Local 10 reports that "the driver of the Maserati [came] down the garage ramp too fast, lost control and drove his luxury sports car right under the SUV." Yeah, we're guessing he didn't get a tip.

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been there a few times. on the weekends it gets beyond busy
 
Voodoo I remember you had a viper acr. I saw a valet wrap a viper srt around a pole at the strip club. And yeah never valet your car..
Just trust me on that.
 
Originally Posted by MPLSdunk

try to work for an in house service, not a huge company.  it's way easier to scheme money that way.  i was making 300 a day when i was working at this lounge a while ago.  don't valet anymore though.

What do you mean scheme money?

And yea, given the choice I would never valet but there are places that don't give you a choice.
 
Originally Posted by Scientific Method

Originally Posted by MPLSdunk

try to work for an in house service, not a huge company.  it's way easier to scheme money that way.  i was making 300 a day when i was working at this lounge a while ago.  don't valet anymore though.

What do you mean scheme money?

And yea, given the choice I would never valet but there are places that don't give you a choice.
places count tickets usually.  so if you re use an old ticket you pocket the fee.  there's tons of ways to hustle, that's just one. you really gotta get in there and see where you can exploit them though.  when i worked at the westin i was making 32 bucks a car.
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  the other thing is you gotta work with dudes who are down.  you can't have a snitch on your team and make it last long. or else you just do it anyways and don't let him in on it.  you'll see how it is if you get a job.  every valet does it for the most part.
 
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