No basketball till October :(

[antidope]

 

I guess slowing the best player in the world means nothing.

Who's the best player in the world tho?

Truth is, nobody knows

Just bcuz ESPN says it and shoves it down your throat doesn't make it true

Stop giving that dude ridiculous titles

Que? He's the best player in the best basketball league, that is a safe assumption to make.

There isnt a guy on some random court of North better than him who didnt get that break. 

No one in the world is better at basketball than LeBron James

 

[onetrust]

Who's the best player in the world tho?

Truth is, nobody knows

Just bcuz ESPN says it and shoves it down your throat doesn't make it true

Stop giving that dude ridiculous titles

damn man, you really hate when people give Bron any praise huh? Majority of his peers call him the best player in the world....not just ESPN.

As recently as just the other day, Iggy called him the best player in the world.

 

[Clyde Frog]

I guess slowing the best player in the world means nothing.

Who's the best player in the world tho?

Truth is, nobody knows

Just bcuz ESPN says it and shoves it down your throat doesn't make it true

Stop giving that dude ridiculous titles

People with eyes who understand basketball know who is the best player in the world. Most would say that it was the guy averaging near a 40 point triple double through the first 3 games of the Finals.

 

[earldagoat]

Eh, I definitely have LeBron as the best player in the world and I can't really stand the guy.  Number 2, imo, is KD and then I'd probably give #3 to AD. 

 

[awwsome]

People with eyes who understand basketball know who is the best player in the world. Most would say that it was the guy averaging near a 40 point triple double through the first 3 games of the Finals.

I'm saying.


Ain't nobody saying Bron is the best because of ESPN.

 

[tyonenine]

I guess slowing the best player in the world means nothing.

Lebron was having "the best finals ever" through three games, soooo no.

I see my post got deleted

 

[mr s j king]

I'm probably late, but yall remember when Rodman kicked that cameraman?
He was ready to beat dude down.

 

[keko jones]

Who's the best player in the world tho?

Truth is, nobody knows

Just bcuz ESPN says it and shoves it down your throat doesn't make it true

Stop giving that dude ridiculous titles

I mean I can see your point but if anyone is deserving of LBJ as much as I hate him. If no, who you would be your choice?

 

[friscostylez]

how do you guys define the best player? like is it in terms of talent, production or impact on the game? or is it mixture of all 3?

 

[mister friendly]

Wait...hows Steph Curry still ghost?

He scored 22 points with 6 assists while shooting 57 percent from 3pt

Hes the Warriors MVP

 

[freeze]

just saw labrawn james pee pee. savannah needs to come my wayyyyyy. these big nba dudes be having malnourished meats.

the internets have him now. wardrobe malfunction. this kills his legacy. reports show mj and kobe had bigguns. bron got beta meat game.

i still haven't seen it, yet. should I? i mean like would it make my Friday?

meh. it's really small bro. lol. you can save time by just looking at your pinky finger

 

[antidope]

how do you guys define the best player? like is it in terms of talent, production or impact on the game? or is it mixture of all 3?

Combination of all three. We all watch basketball here and know what is and isnt. Just like if I said Quincy Acy was the best player in the league everyone would disregard it. There are established truths and non-truths that are easy to identify.

 
The Jerry West MVP is funny to laugh at, but it set the precedent for this line of thinking. The Finals MVP being on a losing team is a dream, it will never happen again. There will always be someone who you can make enough of an argument for on the winning team to where they wont need to do that.

One thing we also have to remember is that the Jerry West Finals MVP year was THE FIRST year that the award was even given out. There was no established line of thinking at the time as to how the winner should be decided, and if there was an established criteria, Hondo would have gotten it. He was getting 28-11-4 and they won.

So again, there will never be another NBA Finals MVP on a losing team, it was a fluke due to lack of experience with the award.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1969_finals.html

@Bennyhinn  What would you say about this then?

The NBA Finals MVP is going to a winner for the rest of its existence, the precedent of it going to the loser was based off ignorance.

 

[storm2006]

I wasn't in here for all the Lebby Meat talk yesterday but was the guy from the ElderWatsonDiggs thread in General that dimensioned EWD's photo to determine his height in here doing the same with the Lebby screenshot?

 

[illest35]

Que? He's the best player in the best basketball league, that is a safe assumption to make.


There isnt a guy on some random court of North better than him who didnt get that break. 

No one in the world is better at basketball than LeBron James

damn man, you really hate when people give Bron any praise huh? Majority of his peers call him the best player in the world....not just ESPN.

As recently as just the other day, Iggy called him the best player in the world.

Out of 6-7 BILLION ppl in this world

Nobody has seen EVERY person on this Earth, let alone seen every person play bball

So noone knows that FOR SURE

Best league or not

I can't give him that title

Sorry, just can't do it |I

 

[georgescorewell]

Screaming A just about ready to swap his pick to GS

Renig daily

He said reality hit Dellavadoodoo

Duh

Dude is a straight clown. 

You can't take him serious at all. 

 

[freeze]

Wait...hows Steph Curry still ghost?

He scored 22 points with 6 assists while shooting 57 percent from 3pt

Hes the Warriors MVP

dont give em the truth bro. they want their mvp to spaz every night. nevermind the fact dellyvision has been ineffective for 2 games now and steph has been getting hit rhythm back.

 

[antidope]

Wait...hows Steph Curry still ghost?

He scored 22 points with 6 assists while shooting 57 percent from 3pt

Hes the Warriors MVP

As it stands right now I would give it to Iggy, but if Steph Curry continues to play well then all of this is moot and he would probably get it. I dont think its a lock by any means at this point but what I do know is that the Finals MVP isnt going to someone on the team that loses

 

[illest35]

Dude is a straight clown. 

You can't take him serious at all. 

I know this my guy lol

As I mentioned b4

Those 2 renig daily

 

[earldagoat]

Ghost is goin' 2 spring 2 life in Gm 5 & haunt LBJ 4ever

 

[friscostylez]

The mystery man behind the plan that helped the Warriors win Game 4 of the NBA Finals

CLEVELAND – Most Golden State Warriors fans probably have never heard of Nick U'Ren. As the special assistant to the head coach, U'Ren quietly stays behind the scenes doing whatever he can to make Warriors coach Steve Kerr look great.

But after U'Ren suggested the drastic lineup change for the Warriors – starting Andre Iguodala in place of center Andrew Bogut – that helped them beat the Cleveland Cavaliers 103-82 and even the NBA Finals at two games apiece Thursday night, Kerr felt it was only right to give U'Ren a shout-out.

"He's behind the bench, he's 28 years old, he's a kid," Kerr said. "We have a staff that is very cooperative. Whoever has the idea, it doesn't matter. And he brought me the idea."

After winning the Finals opener, the Warriors lost the next two games and were in danger of squandering the series. LeBron James was having his way with the Warriors. The Cavaliers' size also was bothering Golden State. The NBA's best offensive team was suddenly struggling, averaging 92.5 points the past two games.

"This entire series [entering Game 4], it's been them as the enforcers, them as the aggressors and us on our heels," Warriors forward Draymond Green said. "We needed to reverse that."

Kerr likes to incorporate some principles from his old team, the five-time NBA champion San Antonio Spurs, and uses many of them with Golden State. With that in mind, U'Ren began watching film of the Spurs from last season's NBA Finals to try to come up with an idea to help Kerr.

The Spurs split the first two games against James and the Miami Heat in last year's Finals. But after starting versatile forward Boris Diaw instead of center Tiago Splitter in Game 3, the Spurs generated more ball movement, a 71-point first half and a 111-92 victory. San Antonio won the final three games while scoring an average of 107.3 points to win the championship.

U'Ren and Warriors assistant coach Luke Walton have privately been fans of using a small lineup. U'Ren first brought the idea of the lineup change to Kerr after a team dinner after the Game 3 loss.

"I went and brought it up at dinner to mixed reviews, which is fine and totally normal," U'Ren said.

U'Ren refused to give up on the idea and did more research. He watched the Spurs in the first halves of Games 3 and 4 of last year's Finals. He began to believe even stronger that if the Warriors went small like the Spurs it would work well against Cleveland. After Walton also embraced the idea, U'Ren sent Kerr a text at about 3 a.m. on Thursday suggesting Iguodala replace Bogut in the starting lineup.

"I just explained that they started Diaw instead of Splitter and starting Andre is something to consider," U'Ren said. "We wanted to tell him in time to watch the film for himself and make the decision."

Kerr woke up to the suggestion and liked it because he believed it would help the Warriors increase the game's pace. It didn't hurt that Iguodala also had played well in the series' first three games, averaging 12.3 points, 4.6 rebounds and four assists off the bench while doing a respectable job of defending James.

Kerr debated the lineup change with the Warriors' coaching staff during a breakfast meeting before deciding to boldly make the move.

"I didn't see the text until this morning," Kerr said. "I told him I liked it and we debated as a staff what the repercussions would be and what the rotation would look like. It was a great idea."

It also was a gutsy decision by Kerr to go with it.

"I don't think it was that gutsy because they were kicking our ***," Kerr told Yahoo Sports. "We were running in mud."

Kerr told the Warriors players about the lineup change during the morning shootaround. He also asked them to keep their mouths shut.

"It made sense when he told us because we've been getting off to such slow starts," Warriors guard Stephen Curry said.

San Jose Mercury-News columnist Tim Kawakami asked Kerr during shootaround if Bogut, who had struggled offensively, was going to be benched. Kerr said he was going to continue to start Bogut.

"I lied to everybody," Kerr said. "It was obvious, right? I could have lied again and said I changed my mind 10 minutes before the game. Then that's another lie. I'd rather tell one lie than two."
Word got out before tipoff that Iguodala would be making his first start of the season in Game 4. Kerr's move sent Bogut to the bench and meant struggling starting forwards Draymond Green and Harrison, both of whom measure under 6-foot-9, would take turns defending the center position. The Cavaliers countered with their usual starters in 7-1 center Timofey Mozgov and 6-10 power forward Tristan Thompson. The move appeared to be a bad one at the start after the Warriors watched the Cavaliers score the game's first seven points while crushing them on the boards.

"When we got down 7-nothing I was like, 'Geez,' " U'Ren said.

The Warriors stayed the course and surged past the Cavs by utilizing a faster pace and more spread-out offense. The smaller lineup generated 12 3-pointers, 11 fast-break points and 19 made free throws. Iguodala also forced James into another challenging offensive night that included 20 points on 7-of-22 shooting.

The Warriors gave up a combined 40 points to Mozgov and Thompson, but it didn't matter.

"Coach Kerr did a great job of mixing the lineup up," James said. "They have so many different interchangeable players where he can decide how he wants to go with his lineups in that nature, and to start [Iguodala] tonight gave them that boost."

Back when Kerr was the Phoenix Suns' general manager from 2007-10, he hired U'Ren for the video department. U'Ren worked for three general managers in Phoenix before Kerr hired him with the Warriors last offseason. During their time together, U'Ren has built a level of trust with Kerr.

If U'Ren's idea didn't work, the Cavs could have pushed the Warriors within a game of elimination. Even so, U'Ren said his boss still would have protected him.

"I was never that nervous," U'Ren told Yahoo Sports. "Our staff is so amazing that they would never throw anyone under the bus or hang them out to dry. And obviously, they are being super kind for giving me credit. I was definitely happy when it worked because I wanted to win.

"Steve deserves all of the credit because he has to live and die with the consequences. It's easy to make a suggestion, but he has to make a decision."

 

[earldagoat]

Out of 6-7 BILLION ppl in this world

Nobody has seen EVERY person on this Earth, let alone seen every person play bball

So noone knows that FOR SURE

Best league or not

I can't give him that title

Sorry, just can't do it

 

[Clyde Frog]

how do you guys define the best player? like is it in terms of talent, production or impact on the game? or is it mixture of all 3?

I think all 3 matter but I really think size is overlooked. Ive been in debates where people said "but LeBron is way bigger so it doesnt count" And I say, that's exactly why he is the best. You can be talented and work on your game but you cant work on getting 2 or 3 inches taller. Same with Shaq, Dirk and KD.

Im praying this foot injury doesnt derail KD's career. Im surprised more people don't talk about it because I think it's more of a possibility than people like or want to think. After this year people have already forgot about him in a sense when having discussions. People forget how young he is still and how much room he has for his game to grow. People forget how absurd he was his MVP year. People forget he was on LeBrons heels. He was putting up LBJ numbers by filling the stat sheet in every column then went off on a 2006 Kobe like tear but with a ridiculous shooting percentage. As he gets older he will be more unstoppable than Dirk. Steph will probably be the best shooter of all time. Ive already seen enough to think so. But with a healthy career KD will be the greatest scorer of all time. And it wont be like Iverson, it will be very efficient.

 

[illest35]

People with eyes who understand basketball know who is the best player in the world. Most would say that it was the guy averaging near a 40 point triple double through the first 3 games of the Finals.

So now something wrong with my eyes and I dont understand bball bcuz I dont agree that he's the best in the world?

Ok, smh

 

[freeze]

bron took hella Ls yesterday b


Son got the buck 50 across the noggin. scoreless in the 4th. hella ineffective in the game. and lost. and rice pipe. i would just disappear. go write a manuscript or something. now its like, no matter what you do, people gonna associate it with you having a a finding nemo meat. the little ******ed fin. 'go hard on a dunk, he's just over compensating. yell and get mad, you acting big...but you small doh. tryna get groupies...but we know you not breaking em off doh. drake still down doh.'

 

[illest35]

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Earl

Was that really necassary tho lol

I gave my opinion, the riders have theirs

Dude ain't, isn't, is not the best in the entire world IMO

Say/think/post all the gifs u want

U still cool in my book tho