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It's going to be really, really hard for the Bengals to screw this draft up with all the different options they have available and all the positions that need to be filled, but I wouldn't put it past them.
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what exactly are you talking about?Originally Posted by im that one
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
I dunno, Toine....I got a feeling that if the Skins don't trade down, they are gonna take Locker w. that #10 overall
I just really wonder how much teams are scared off by Cam? I want the guy to succeed, but wow....I think there are more questions about him than there were about Tebow last year.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]That's because No matter what, Tebow was (is) an extremly Hard worker and will do anything it takes. Cam is not. All of that has been documented.[/color]
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what exactly are you talking about?Originally Posted by im that one
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
I dunno, Toine....I got a feeling that if the Skins don't trade down, they are gonna take Locker w. that #10 overall
I just really wonder how much teams are scared off by Cam? I want the guy to succeed, but wow....I think there are more questions about him than there were about Tebow last year.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]That's because No matter what, Tebow was (is) an extremly Hard worker and will do anything it takes. Cam is not. All of that has been documented.[/color]
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]really dude.... really...[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]after responding to him i broke it down, twice, and even put the 1 + 2 points to say exactly what i was talking about and you still aren't following or have a better response?[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]come on fella. i expect better from you.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]after responding to him i broke it down, twice, and even put the 1 + 2 points to say exactly what i was talking about and you still aren't following or have a better response?[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]come on fella. i expect better from you.[/color]
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]really dude.... really...[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]after responding to him i broke it down, twice, and even put the 1 + 2 points to say exactly what i was talking about and you still aren't following or have a better response?[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]come on fella. i expect better from you.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]after responding to him i broke it down, twice, and even put the 1 + 2 points to say exactly what i was talking about and you still aren't following or have a better response?[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]come on fella. i expect better from you.[/color]
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Im that one...can you give me some examples of WHY Cam's "work ethic" should be questioned? If anything, wasn't his leadership praised this season? Of course it's easy to look at his past and not be able to see beyond that (and I think that's the easy way out...IMO...but that's neither here nor there)....however, what did he specifically do at Auburn, the combine, pro day, etc. that makes people question his work ethic?
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Im that one...can you give me some examples of WHY Cam's "work ethic" should be questioned? If anything, wasn't his leadership praised this season? Of course it's easy to look at his past and not be able to see beyond that (and I think that's the easy way out...IMO...but that's neither here nor there)....however, what did he specifically do at Auburn, the combine, pro day, etc. that makes people question his work ethic?
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please let an OT drop to the Bears. Carimi or Solder would be great....... and get Steve Smith for Cutler
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please let an OT drop to the Bears. Carimi or Solder would be great....... and get Steve Smith for Cutler
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so u got ppl saying "maybe" and "I just dont know" and you equate that with "documented c ases"
and u quoted a bogus reporter who should have lost any credibility as soon as you read "fake smiles"
unreal what people stick to just cus someone with an agenda wrote it and was allowed to post/publish it.
and u quoted a bogus reporter who should have lost any credibility as soon as you read "fake smiles"
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so u got ppl saying "maybe" and "I just dont know" and you equate that with "documented c ases"
and u quoted a bogus reporter who should have lost any credibility as soon as you read "fake smiles"
unreal what people stick to just cus someone with an agenda wrote it and was allowed to post/publish it.
and u quoted a bogus reporter who should have lost any credibility as soon as you read "fake smiles"
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Black quarterback involved in a college scandal... You shoulda known.
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trust me, i know...
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I'm not able to say what he did or didn't do. i wasn't there. what i've read, or heard, was he is not a hard worker behind the scenes. offseason, weight room, practice field, etc. [/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Also the huge red flags with his play book knowledge (pre gruden interview) and understanding how to read defenses.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]with that I did specifically say: [/color]
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I'm not able to say what he did or didn't do. i wasn't there. what i've read, or heard, was he is not a hard worker behind the scenes. offseason, weight room, practice field, etc. [/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Also the huge red flags with his play book knowledge (pre gruden interview) and understanding how to read defenses.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]with that I did specifically say: [/color]
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
I dunno, Toine....I got a feeling that if the Skins don't trade down, they are gonna take Locker w. that #10 overall
I just really wonder how much teams are scared off by Cam? I want the guy to succeed, but wow....I think there are more questions about him than there were about Tebow last year.
I really don't think they take Jake @ 10. I could see the Bills maybe swiping Cam. They have Fitzpatrick and that'll give Cam some time to ride the pine and learn *shrugs*
Locker's going to Minny, I feel it
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
I dunno, Toine....I got a feeling that if the Skins don't trade down, they are gonna take Locker w. that #10 overall
I just really wonder how much teams are scared off by Cam? I want the guy to succeed, but wow....I think there are more questions about him than there were about Tebow last year.
I really don't think they take Jake @ 10. I could see the Bills maybe swiping Cam. They have Fitzpatrick and that'll give Cam some time to ride the pine and learn *shrugs*
Locker's going to Minny, I feel it
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
so u got ppl saying "maybe" and "I just dont know" and you equate that with "documented c ases"
and u quoted a bogus reporter who should have lost any credibility as soon as you read "fake smiles"
unreal what people stick to just cus someone with an agenda wrote it and was allowed to post/publish it.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I quoted Pro Football Weekly, which is extremly credible and has been around a long while. As well as their editors who approve of what their columnists write. so ultimatly you are saying PFW is bogus?....... are you kidding me? incredibly wrong.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]As far as the fake smile, yes it was a stupid way to say things. I'm not backing him up on that what so ever. But I clearly wasn't talking about his Smile at all. [/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]You are saying i'm sticking to someone with an agenda.... yet I gave many examples. Mayock and Kiper included whom are the best at anything to do with the draft. I usually like and can see eye to eye with your posts. your just off on this one man.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]you like him, great. You'd want him for your team, awesome. I don't. Gave my reasoning. Period.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)] really. it's that simple huh?[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]He's black so he's bad? don't stop at something so simplistic. pull your heads out and see the sun light, get some fresh air.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]everything isn't about being black and white. [/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]can't wait until a year or two to have this conversation again.[/color]
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
so u got ppl saying "maybe" and "I just dont know" and you equate that with "documented c ases"
and u quoted a bogus reporter who should have lost any credibility as soon as you read "fake smiles"
unreal what people stick to just cus someone with an agenda wrote it and was allowed to post/publish it.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I quoted Pro Football Weekly, which is extremly credible and has been around a long while. As well as their editors who approve of what their columnists write. so ultimatly you are saying PFW is bogus?....... are you kidding me? incredibly wrong.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]As far as the fake smile, yes it was a stupid way to say things. I'm not backing him up on that what so ever. But I clearly wasn't talking about his Smile at all. [/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]You are saying i'm sticking to someone with an agenda.... yet I gave many examples. Mayock and Kiper included whom are the best at anything to do with the draft. I usually like and can see eye to eye with your posts. your just off on this one man.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]you like him, great. You'd want him for your team, awesome. I don't. Gave my reasoning. Period.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)] really. it's that simple huh?[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]He's black so he's bad? don't stop at something so simplistic. pull your heads out and see the sun light, get some fresh air.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]everything isn't about being black and white. [/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]can't wait until a year or two to have this conversation again.[/color]
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has nothing to do with whether you or I like him or not.
there's a big difference in those guys writing "maybe he has work issues" and then you saying it as fact then saying "All of that has been documented."
its a draft write up, these people have to nit pick something, anything... and in the case of Cam newton, its easier to say, he has a fake smile, "maybe" he doesnt work hard , "maybe" he doesnt love practice.
maybe he isnt a leader, despite all the kids from UF he enrolled with who still love him, despite winning on every level, despite different offenses at each level...
there's a big difference in those guys writing "maybe he has work issues" and then you saying it as fact then saying "All of that has been documented."
its a draft write up, these people have to nit pick something, anything... and in the case of Cam newton, its easier to say, he has a fake smile, "maybe" he doesnt work hard , "maybe" he doesnt love practice.
maybe he isnt a leader, despite all the kids from UF he enrolled with who still love him, despite winning on every level, despite different offenses at each level...
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has nothing to do with whether you or I like him or not.
there's a big difference in those guys writing "maybe he has work issues" and then you saying it as fact then saying "All of that has been documented."
its a draft write up, these people have to nit pick something, anything... and in the case of Cam newton, its easier to say, he has a fake smile, "maybe" he doesnt work hard , "maybe" he doesnt love practice.
maybe he isnt a leader, despite all the kids from UF he enrolled with who still love him, despite winning on every level, despite different offenses at each level...
there's a big difference in those guys writing "maybe he has work issues" and then you saying it as fact then saying "All of that has been documented."
its a draft write up, these people have to nit pick something, anything... and in the case of Cam newton, its easier to say, he has a fake smile, "maybe" he doesnt work hard , "maybe" he doesnt love practice.
maybe he isnt a leader, despite all the kids from UF he enrolled with who still love him, despite winning on every level, despite different offenses at each level...
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Jerry Jones up to his his Shenanigans I see
Not gonna work this time though,
Not gonna work this time though,
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Jerry Jones up to his his Shenanigans I see
Not gonna work this time though,
Not gonna work this time though,
