Say hello to Tyron, PP7 is falling to the 9ers
Say hello to Tyron, PP7 is falling to the 9ers
Originally Posted by DaComeUP
I'll be pissed if they take AJ Green.
Originally Posted by DaComeUP
I'll be pissed if they take AJ Green.
Yea some boards have him going to the Jags, I think that would be a good look. Give him some time to sit behing Gerrard and hopefully some time for the Jags to pick up an actual reciever or two.Originally Posted by gatorb807
I hope Tyrod gets a fair shake at QB.
I think he can be a good started after sitting for a few years.
Throws one of the prettiest passes I've ever seen.
Vick growing the beard out
Yea some boards have him going to the Jags, I think that would be a good look. Give him some time to sit behing Gerrard and hopefully some time for the Jags to pick up an actual reciever or two.Originally Posted by gatorb807
I hope Tyrod gets a fair shake at QB.
I think he can be a good started after sitting for a few years.
Throws one of the prettiest passes I've ever seen.
Vick growing the beard out
I can't hear it at work, but I think I found the audio...Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Yo....$$#@ this dude Vinny Cerrato. His word means +$*$! Anyone hear the BS he was saying about Cam Newton? He's the LAST dude I'd go to for talent evaluation. Someone shoulda asked him how those 3 2nd round picks from 08' are doingHe's a chump. straight up.
I can't hear it at work, but I think I found the audio...Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Yo....$$#@ this dude Vinny Cerrato. His word means +$*$! Anyone hear the BS he was saying about Cam Newton? He's the LAST dude I'd go to for talent evaluation. Someone shoulda asked him how those 3 2nd round picks from 08' are doingHe's a chump. straight up.
Draft analyst Mike Mayock is set to announce his mock draft Wednesday on NFL Network at 8 p.m. ET. 
Draft analyst Mike Mayock is set to announce his mock draft Wednesday on NFL Network at 8 p.m. ET.
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Mock Draft 2011
[h2]Surprise, surprise: Don't be shocked if ...[/h2]
By Mike Mayock | NFL Network
The draft process has finally led us to the eve of the 2011 NFL Draft and the time to unveil my first-ever official mock draft. The most difficult thing about putting together this mock was quarterback placement and the potential for movement at the end of the first round. I still expect to see eight quarterbacks taken in the first three rounds of what will be a historic draft.
Mayock to reveal his mock draft
Watch the entire 2011 NFL Draft live on NFL Network starting Thursday at 8 p.m. ET.
I think there will be more trades this year than people have seen in the history of the NFL draft. However, because of the uncertainty created by the lack of free agency, teams have more needs than ever, and to compound that there are certain position groups in this draft that are simply bad.
You’re going to see some teams trading to get down, and other teams trying to trade up in order to get specific players of interest. I know you’re not supposed to do trades in a mock draft, but I’ve got some surprises.
So here we go, folks, my mock draft:
Pick No.
1
Cam Newton
QB
Auburn
This is a tough one for me. I’ve been trying to talk myself out of a quarterback for the last three months. The Panthers took Jimmy Clausen a year ago in the second round, so by taking one here they're admitting a mistake. But if you don’t have a franchise guy, you can’t compete. Newton can run, he can pass. They’re going to have to protect him early by running the ball and playing good defense. They want to build the offense around his talents.
Pick No.
2
Von Miller
LB
Texas A&M
Everyone thinks this pick will be Marcell Dareus, but look at the big picture for the Broncos. Defensive tackle is a strength of this draft, so the Broncos take Miller, the best edge rusher, and then come back and get a defensive tackle with their next pick.
Pick No.
3
Marcell Dareus
DT
Alabama
With everyone thinking Miller would go to Buffalo, what are the Bills going to do? They go Dareus, a scheme-diverse guy who can play all three spots in the 3-4 front. My favorite player in the draft.
Pick No.
4
A.J. Green
WR
Georgia
I struggled with this pick. Could easily be a quarterback, but Green has a rare skill set. I almost picked Blaine Gabbert here, but I really believe with the uncertainty over T.O. they go Green here.
Pick No.
5
Patrick Peterson
DB
LSU
The Cardinals pass on the quarterback here and take the top corner in the draft. He can take pressure off other guys in the secondary and can also help in the return game. With this pick, the Cardinals feel they can compete right now in a watered-down NFC West. This pick shows the Cardinals believe they’ll get a veteran QB this offseason.
Pick No.
6
Julio Jones
WR
Alabama
This is a tough position for the Browns, who would like to get an edge rusher with this pick. But new coach Pat Shurmur is an offensive guy. I love Jones, who will help protect the development of young quarterback Colt McCoy.
Pick No.
7
Blaine Gabbert
QB
Missouri
I was thinking corner or rush lineman initially, but the quarterback is there in this scenario. There's a new regime in San Francisco, so the 49ers are going to have to turn things around. Gabbert is my top-rated quarterback. I love the marriage of Gabbert and coach Jim Harbaugh.
Pick No.
8
Nick Fairley
DT
Auburn
If the Titans can re-sign free agent defensive ends Jason Babin and Dave Ball, they can plug in Fairley immediately to upgrade the middle of the defensive line.
Pick No.
9
Tyron Smith
OT
USC
I think the Cowboys would like to trade down here, but this kid is talented. Dallas can plug him in at right tackle, and he upgrades the youth and athleticism of the offensive line.
Pick No.
10
Prince Amukamara
CB
Nebraska
Do the ******** think about a quarterback here? Maybe. But cornerbacks Carlos Rogers and Phillip Buchanon are both set to be free agents. If I’m Mike Shanahan, I look at Amukamara as one of the most gifted players in the draft and an immediate help.
Pick No.
11
Robert Quinn
DE
North Carolina
Jobs are on the line in Houston, and the Texans need to upgrade the defense. With Amukamara off the board, I think they turn to the rush linebacker position as they transition to a 3-4 defense. Quinn is the protoypical 3-4 option, and he’s got all kinds of upside. There is some risk involved because we’ve never seen him stand up and play in this scheme.
Pick No.
12
Aldon Smith
DE
Missouri
In desperate need of a QB, the Vikings go the veteran route. If they don’t re-sign Ray Edwards, they line up Smith opposite Jared Allen and return to the dominance of their front-four defense.
Pick No.
13
Anthony Castonzo
OL
Boston College
This is a no-brainer pick for the Lions. Veteran Jeff Backus is in the last year of his deal. Castonzo gets a one-year apprenticeship at right tackle, and a year from now he replaces Backus over on the left side and stays there for the next 10 years to protect Matthew Stafford.
Pick No.
14
Corey Liuget
DT
Illinois
The Rams have huge needs along the defense line. I love Liuget, who is a prototypical 3-technique and fits immediately into a rotation for Steve Spagnuolo. Liuget is a winner and immediately upgrades the talent along the line for the Rams.
Pick No.
15
Mike Pouncey
OL
Florida
The Dolphins are in an awkward spot. It’s probably too early for the quarterback they need, and they also need a wide receiver or skill player who can make a difference on the edge. They aren’t there at No. 15. They can take Pouncey and plug him in. I don’t care if it’s at center or guard, he’s going to play.
Pick No.
16
Ryan Kerrigan
DE
Purdue
This pick has GM Gene Smith’s fingerprints all over it. Kerrigan is special. He’s a great complement to Aaron Kampman on the other side for a poor pass-rush team. Could be a heck of a front line with recent DT draft picks Tyson Alualu and Terrance Knighton.
Pick No.
17
Cameron Jordan
DE
California
A five-technique for the Pats here from the pick they got from the Raiders when they dealt the prototypical 5-technique in Richard Seymour. Jordan might be the best 5-technique in this draft. He gives them scheme versatility because you can play him inside, and he can stand up.
Pick No.
18
J.J. Watt
DE
Wisconsin
The next 3-4 team on the board takes the next best 5-technique defensive end. When the Chargers move to nickel or sub packages, they can slide Watt inside and he’ll continue to play at a high level. The Chargers covet scheme versatility and get it in Watt.
Pick No.
19
Mark Ingram
RB
Alabama
The Giants are thinking about a left tackle like Nate Solder, so they can kick David Diehl inside. But the value of Mark Ingram is too high at this point, plus don't assume they can re-sign both Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw. Ingram can take a pounding, he’ll pass protect, he’ll catch the football.
Pick No.
20
Da'Quan Bowers
DE
Clemson
The slide stops here for Bowers, who was once thought of as a potential top overall pick. Bowers provides an immediate explosion off the edge for a defense that was 30th in total sacks last season. Coach Raheem Morris has a history of dealing well with players, and this is a great pick for the Bucs, who get a top-10 player.
Pick No.
21
Danny Watkins
OL
Baylor
When Scott Pioli worked with the Patriots, they took a guy named Logan Mankins. I see his reincarnation in Watkins. I think Watkins is a Pioli guy. He’s a try-hard kid. He’s gifted, tough and mean. You plug him in at right tackle in Year 1, and he’ll be able to move inside later, if needed.
Pick No.
22
Nate Solder
OL
Colorado
The Colts have been looking for answers at left tackle for a long time. Solder needs more lower-body strength but has good feet and will take care of Peyton Manning’s blind side. At some point the Colts will have a Pro Bowl tackle in Solder.
Pick No.
23
Gabe Carimi
OL
Wisconsin
Carimi was a left tackle at Wisconsin, but I like him on the interior of the offensive line from Day 1. The Eagles have had a bunch of issues inside over the last couple of years with injuries. Their center, Jamaal Jackson, is getting old, and their two guards are free agents. You plug Carimi in and play him.
Pick No.
24
Phil Taylor
DL
Baylor
At this point, the entire defensive side of the Saints’ draft board has been decimated. But pairing Taylor with Sedrick Ellis on the inside of the defensive line creates a formidable, young duo. At 335 pounds, Taylor is a dancing bear who gives the Saints the ability to be both stout against the run and provides a push in the pocket.
Pick No.
25
Marvin Austin
DL
North Carolina
Pete Carroll is not afraid of Marvin Austin. He didn’t play last year, but he’s rehabbed his image. He played great at the East-West Shrine Game and turned it on at the NFL Scouting Combine. He’s a gifted specimen, and he’s the ideal 3-technique. He fits, especially if the Seahawks don’t re-sign Brandon Mebane.
Pick No.
26
Jimmy Smith
CB
Colorado
This is a great fit and a win-win situation for both Smith and the Ravens. Smith is one of the most physically gifted players in the draft who has dealt with off-field issues, and he benefits from the infrastructure of the veteran locker room of the Ravens. The Ravens get a big, physical player who is a top-10 talent.
Pick No.
27
Adrian Clayborn
DL
Iowa
This is the point where the quarterbacks start to come into play as far as other teams trying to trade up. If Atlanta is stuck here, Clayborn is the pick. There are some concerns about one side of his body because of Erb's Palsy, but if he goes this low, what a great football player you're going to get.
Pick No.
28
Jake Locker
QB
Washington
No, the Patriots aren't drafting Jake Locker. Any of the teams at the bottom of the first round could be looking to trade out, including New England here. A QB such as Locker will be a prime target for a team looking to jump up. It’s not about the teams at this point, it’s about the players.
Pick No.
29
Jonathan Baldwin
WR
Pittsburgh
The Bears want offensive or defensive line help, but at this point in the draft, those spots have been hit hard. If a trade down isn’t an option, they try to give Jay Cutler another target in the passing game. Baldwin is a talented wideout.
Pick No.
30
Akeem Ayers
LB
UCLA
The Jets desperately need an edge rusher out of this draft, and Ayers is one of the best available. Rex Ryan always believes he can get the best out of any player.
Pick No.
31
Aaron Williams
DB
Texas
Williams’ versatility fits the defensive scheme of **** LeBeau. Williams is a confident corner who should be able to contribute immediately as a nickel back.
Pick No.
32
Andy Dalton
QB
TCU
Why not trade out of this spot and let another team trade in to take a QB like Andy Dalton at the end of the first round? There will be teams who would rather deal with the Packers here than working out a deal with the Patriots at the top of the second round at No. 33. At the end of the day, I think four quarterbacks go in the first roun
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Mock Draft 2011
[h2]Surprise, surprise: Don't be shocked if ...[/h2]
By Mike Mayock | NFL Network
The draft process has finally led us to the eve of the 2011 NFL Draft and the time to unveil my first-ever official mock draft. The most difficult thing about putting together this mock was quarterback placement and the potential for movement at the end of the first round. I still expect to see eight quarterbacks taken in the first three rounds of what will be a historic draft.
Mayock to reveal his mock draft
Watch the entire 2011 NFL Draft live on NFL Network starting Thursday at 8 p.m. ET.
I think there will be more trades this year than people have seen in the history of the NFL draft. However, because of the uncertainty created by the lack of free agency, teams have more needs than ever, and to compound that there are certain position groups in this draft that are simply bad.
You’re going to see some teams trading to get down, and other teams trying to trade up in order to get specific players of interest. I know you’re not supposed to do trades in a mock draft, but I’ve got some surprises.
So here we go, folks, my mock draft:
Pick No.
1
Cam Newton
QB
Auburn
This is a tough one for me. I’ve been trying to talk myself out of a quarterback for the last three months. The Panthers took Jimmy Clausen a year ago in the second round, so by taking one here they're admitting a mistake. But if you don’t have a franchise guy, you can’t compete. Newton can run, he can pass. They’re going to have to protect him early by running the ball and playing good defense. They want to build the offense around his talents.
Pick No.
2
Von Miller
LB
Texas A&M
Everyone thinks this pick will be Marcell Dareus, but look at the big picture for the Broncos. Defensive tackle is a strength of this draft, so the Broncos take Miller, the best edge rusher, and then come back and get a defensive tackle with their next pick.
Pick No.
3
Marcell Dareus
DT
Alabama
With everyone thinking Miller would go to Buffalo, what are the Bills going to do? They go Dareus, a scheme-diverse guy who can play all three spots in the 3-4 front. My favorite player in the draft.
Pick No.
4
A.J. Green
WR
Georgia
I struggled with this pick. Could easily be a quarterback, but Green has a rare skill set. I almost picked Blaine Gabbert here, but I really believe with the uncertainty over T.O. they go Green here.
Pick No.
5
Patrick Peterson
DB
LSU
The Cardinals pass on the quarterback here and take the top corner in the draft. He can take pressure off other guys in the secondary and can also help in the return game. With this pick, the Cardinals feel they can compete right now in a watered-down NFC West. This pick shows the Cardinals believe they’ll get a veteran QB this offseason.
Pick No.
6
Julio Jones
WR
Alabama
This is a tough position for the Browns, who would like to get an edge rusher with this pick. But new coach Pat Shurmur is an offensive guy. I love Jones, who will help protect the development of young quarterback Colt McCoy.
Pick No.
7
Blaine Gabbert
QB
Missouri
I was thinking corner or rush lineman initially, but the quarterback is there in this scenario. There's a new regime in San Francisco, so the 49ers are going to have to turn things around. Gabbert is my top-rated quarterback. I love the marriage of Gabbert and coach Jim Harbaugh.
Pick No.
8
Nick Fairley
DT
Auburn
If the Titans can re-sign free agent defensive ends Jason Babin and Dave Ball, they can plug in Fairley immediately to upgrade the middle of the defensive line.
Pick No.
9
Tyron Smith
OT
USC
I think the Cowboys would like to trade down here, but this kid is talented. Dallas can plug him in at right tackle, and he upgrades the youth and athleticism of the offensive line.
Pick No.
10
Prince Amukamara
CB
Nebraska
Do the ******** think about a quarterback here? Maybe. But cornerbacks Carlos Rogers and Phillip Buchanon are both set to be free agents. If I’m Mike Shanahan, I look at Amukamara as one of the most gifted players in the draft and an immediate help.
Pick No.
11
Robert Quinn
DE
North Carolina
Jobs are on the line in Houston, and the Texans need to upgrade the defense. With Amukamara off the board, I think they turn to the rush linebacker position as they transition to a 3-4 defense. Quinn is the protoypical 3-4 option, and he’s got all kinds of upside. There is some risk involved because we’ve never seen him stand up and play in this scheme.
Pick No.
12
Aldon Smith
DE
Missouri
In desperate need of a QB, the Vikings go the veteran route. If they don’t re-sign Ray Edwards, they line up Smith opposite Jared Allen and return to the dominance of their front-four defense.
Pick No.
13
Anthony Castonzo
OL
Boston College
This is a no-brainer pick for the Lions. Veteran Jeff Backus is in the last year of his deal. Castonzo gets a one-year apprenticeship at right tackle, and a year from now he replaces Backus over on the left side and stays there for the next 10 years to protect Matthew Stafford.
Pick No.
14
Corey Liuget
DT
Illinois
The Rams have huge needs along the defense line. I love Liuget, who is a prototypical 3-technique and fits immediately into a rotation for Steve Spagnuolo. Liuget is a winner and immediately upgrades the talent along the line for the Rams.
Pick No.
15
Mike Pouncey
OL
Florida
The Dolphins are in an awkward spot. It’s probably too early for the quarterback they need, and they also need a wide receiver or skill player who can make a difference on the edge. They aren’t there at No. 15. They can take Pouncey and plug him in. I don’t care if it’s at center or guard, he’s going to play.
Pick No.
16
Ryan Kerrigan
DE
Purdue
This pick has GM Gene Smith’s fingerprints all over it. Kerrigan is special. He’s a great complement to Aaron Kampman on the other side for a poor pass-rush team. Could be a heck of a front line with recent DT draft picks Tyson Alualu and Terrance Knighton.
Pick No.
17
Cameron Jordan
DE
California
A five-technique for the Pats here from the pick they got from the Raiders when they dealt the prototypical 5-technique in Richard Seymour. Jordan might be the best 5-technique in this draft. He gives them scheme versatility because you can play him inside, and he can stand up.
Pick No.
18
J.J. Watt
DE
Wisconsin
The next 3-4 team on the board takes the next best 5-technique defensive end. When the Chargers move to nickel or sub packages, they can slide Watt inside and he’ll continue to play at a high level. The Chargers covet scheme versatility and get it in Watt.
Pick No.
19
Mark Ingram
RB
Alabama
The Giants are thinking about a left tackle like Nate Solder, so they can kick David Diehl inside. But the value of Mark Ingram is too high at this point, plus don't assume they can re-sign both Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw. Ingram can take a pounding, he’ll pass protect, he’ll catch the football.
Pick No.
20
Da'Quan Bowers
DE
Clemson
The slide stops here for Bowers, who was once thought of as a potential top overall pick. Bowers provides an immediate explosion off the edge for a defense that was 30th in total sacks last season. Coach Raheem Morris has a history of dealing well with players, and this is a great pick for the Bucs, who get a top-10 player.
Pick No.
21
Danny Watkins
OL
Baylor
When Scott Pioli worked with the Patriots, they took a guy named Logan Mankins. I see his reincarnation in Watkins. I think Watkins is a Pioli guy. He’s a try-hard kid. He’s gifted, tough and mean. You plug him in at right tackle in Year 1, and he’ll be able to move inside later, if needed.
Pick No.
22
Nate Solder
OL
Colorado
The Colts have been looking for answers at left tackle for a long time. Solder needs more lower-body strength but has good feet and will take care of Peyton Manning’s blind side. At some point the Colts will have a Pro Bowl tackle in Solder.
Pick No.
23
Gabe Carimi
OL
Wisconsin
Carimi was a left tackle at Wisconsin, but I like him on the interior of the offensive line from Day 1. The Eagles have had a bunch of issues inside over the last couple of years with injuries. Their center, Jamaal Jackson, is getting old, and their two guards are free agents. You plug Carimi in and play him.
Pick No.
24
Phil Taylor
DL
Baylor
At this point, the entire defensive side of the Saints’ draft board has been decimated. But pairing Taylor with Sedrick Ellis on the inside of the defensive line creates a formidable, young duo. At 335 pounds, Taylor is a dancing bear who gives the Saints the ability to be both stout against the run and provides a push in the pocket.
Pick No.
25
Marvin Austin
DL
North Carolina
Pete Carroll is not afraid of Marvin Austin. He didn’t play last year, but he’s rehabbed his image. He played great at the East-West Shrine Game and turned it on at the NFL Scouting Combine. He’s a gifted specimen, and he’s the ideal 3-technique. He fits, especially if the Seahawks don’t re-sign Brandon Mebane.
Pick No.
26
Jimmy Smith
CB
Colorado
This is a great fit and a win-win situation for both Smith and the Ravens. Smith is one of the most physically gifted players in the draft who has dealt with off-field issues, and he benefits from the infrastructure of the veteran locker room of the Ravens. The Ravens get a big, physical player who is a top-10 talent.
Pick No.
27
Adrian Clayborn
DL
Iowa
This is the point where the quarterbacks start to come into play as far as other teams trying to trade up. If Atlanta is stuck here, Clayborn is the pick. There are some concerns about one side of his body because of Erb's Palsy, but if he goes this low, what a great football player you're going to get.
Pick No.
28
Jake Locker
QB
Washington
No, the Patriots aren't drafting Jake Locker. Any of the teams at the bottom of the first round could be looking to trade out, including New England here. A QB such as Locker will be a prime target for a team looking to jump up. It’s not about the teams at this point, it’s about the players.
Pick No.
29
Jonathan Baldwin
WR
Pittsburgh
The Bears want offensive or defensive line help, but at this point in the draft, those spots have been hit hard. If a trade down isn’t an option, they try to give Jay Cutler another target in the passing game. Baldwin is a talented wideout.
Pick No.
30
Akeem Ayers
LB
UCLA
The Jets desperately need an edge rusher out of this draft, and Ayers is one of the best available. Rex Ryan always believes he can get the best out of any player.
Pick No.
31
Aaron Williams
DB
Texas
Williams’ versatility fits the defensive scheme of **** LeBeau. Williams is a confident corner who should be able to contribute immediately as a nickel back.
Pick No.
32
Andy Dalton
QB
TCU
Why not trade out of this spot and let another team trade in to take a QB like Andy Dalton at the end of the first round? There will be teams who would rather deal with the Packers here than working out a deal with the Patriots at the top of the second round at No. 33. At the end of the day, I think four quarterbacks go in the first roun
