Official Alien(s) Franchise Tread. Alien: Romulus 8/16/24

Originally Posted by zk1MPLS

Charlize Theron at the end and basically the ending overall.
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She ran all the way to her escape pod for NOTHIN
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And I love how chick is all %%%$$ crying cuz her stomach's stapled, but then doing hurdles the next second.
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Originally Posted by chezzer10

Originally Posted by King of Chicago

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I don't know if it was mentioned but Prometheus landed on LV-223.  The Nostromo (Alien) landed on LV-426.  LV-223 is similar to Earth but LV-426 is complete inhospitable.  Both ships carried the DNA of xenomorphs (as evidenced in Promotheus) however, that particular strain was not the same one that was discovered by Ripley's crew.
Also an interdasting read:

Prometheus contains such a huge amount of mythic resonance that it effectively obscures a more conventional plot. I'd like to draw your attention to the use of motifs and callbacks in the film that not only enrich it, but offer possible hints as to what was going on in otherwise confusing scenes.

Let's begin with the eponymous titan himself, Prometheus. He was a wise and benevolent entity who created mankind in the first place, forming the first humans from clay. The Gods were more or less okay with that, until Prometheus gave them fire. This was a big no-no, as fire was supposed to be the exclusive property of the Gods. As punishment, Prometheus was chained to a rock and condemned to have his liver ripped out and eaten every day by an eagle. (His liver magically grew back, in case you were wondering.)

Fix that image in your mind, please: the giver of life, with his abdomen torn open. We'll be coming back to it many times in the course of this article.

The ethos of the titan Prometheus is one of willing and necessary sacrifice for life's sake. That's a pattern we see replicated throughout the ancient world. J G Frazer wrote his lengthy anthropological study, The Golden Bough, around the idea of the Dying God - a lifegiver who voluntarily dies for the sake of the people. It was incumbent upon the King to die at the right and proper time, because that was what heaven demanded, and fertility would not ensue if he did not do his royal duty of dying.

Now, consider the opening sequence of Prometheus. We fly over a spectacular vista, which may or may not be primordial Earth. According to Ridley Scott, it doesn't matter. A lone Engineer at the top of a waterfall goes through a strange ritual, drinking from a cup of black goo that causes his body to disintegrate into the building blocks of life. We see the fragments of his body falling into the river, twirling and spiralling into DNA helices.

Ridley Scott has this to say about the scene: 'That could be a planet anywhere. All he’s doing is acting as a gardener in space. And the plant life, in fact, is the disintegration of himself. If you parallel that idea with other sacrificial elements in history – which are clearly illustrated with the Mayans and the Incas – he would live for one year as a prince, and at the end of that year, he would be taken and donated to the gods in hopes of improving what might happen next year, be it with crops or weather, etcetera.'

Can we find a God in human history who creates plant life through his own death, and who is associated with a river? It's not difficult to find several, but the most obvious candidate is Osiris, the epitome of all the Frazerian 'Dying Gods'.

And we wouldn't be amiss in seeing the first of the movie's many Christian allegories in this scene, either. The Engineer removes his cloak before the ceremony, and hesitates before drinking the cupful of genetic solvent; he may well have been thinking 'If it be Thy will, let this cup pass from me.'

So, we know something about the Engineers, a founding principle laid down in the very first scene: acceptance of death, up to and including self-sacrifice, is right and proper in the creation of life. Prometheus, Osiris, John Barleycorn, and of course the Jesus of Christianity are all supposed to embody this same principle. It is held up as one of the most enduring human concepts of what it means to be 'good'.

Seen in this light, the perplexing obscurity of the rest of the film yields to an examination of the interwoven themes of sacrifice, creation, and preservation of life. We also discover, through hints, exactly what the nature of the clash between the Engineers and humanity entailed.

The crew of the Prometheus discover an ancient chamber, presided over by a brooding solemn face, in which urns of the same black substance are kept. A mural on the wall presents an image which, if you did as I asked earlier on, you will recognise instantly: the lifegiver with his abdomen torn open. Go and look at it here to refresh your memory. Note the serenity on the Engineer's face here.

And there's another mural there, one which shows a familiar xenomorph-like figure. This is the Destroyer who mirrors the Creator, I think - the avatar of supremely selfish life, devouring and destroying others purely to preserve itself. As Ash puts it: 'a survivor, unclouded by conscience, remorse or delusions of morality.'

Through Shaw and Holloway's investigations, we learn that the Engineers not only created human life, they supervised our development. (How else are we to explain the numerous images of Engineers in primitive art, complete with star diagram showing us the way to find them?) We have to assume, then, that for a good few hundred thousand years, they were pretty happy with us. They could have destroyed us at any time, but instead, they effectively invited us over; the big pointy finger seems to be saying 'Hey, guys, when you're grown up enough to develop space travel, come see us.' Until something changed, something which not only messed up our relationship with them but caused their installation on LV-223 to be almost entirely wiped out.

From the Engineers' perspective, so long as humans retained that notion of self-sacrifice as central, we weren't entirely beyond redemption. But we went and screwed it all up, and the film hints at when, if not why: the Engineers at the base died two thousand years ago. That suggests that the event that turned them against us and led to the huge piles of dead Engineers lying about was one and the same event. We did something very, very bad, and somehow the consequences of that dreadful act accompanied the Engineers back to LV-223 and massacred them.

If you have uneasy suspicions about what 'a bad thing approximately 2,000 years ago' might be, then let me reassure you that you are right. An astonishing excerpt from the Movies.com interview with Ridley Scott:

Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there
 
Just seeing all of these carefully thought out explanations makes me sad. I want no part of it. This is lost all over again. Any well thought out amazing theory is not going to be fulfilled. All it means is that you are more creative than that *$*@%$% hack.

There are thousands of fan made ideas about the "clues" in lost and it didn't mean anything. It's just a hack,in way over his head. I promise that manh of you cared more about this movie than he did
 
After a few days, I think I actually hate this movie
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. It was all pretty and new but I can't recall a more unsatisfying movie in recent times. This movie promised us much more than it delivered.
 
Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI......


simple minded kids


Even if youre right, why the condescending tone?I hate smug people like you.
 
what about the worm/snake like face huggers. how come they didn't implant a xenomorph and where did they come
from?
 
Originally Posted by FloatOver

what about the worm/snake like face huggers. how come they didn't implant a xenomorph and where did they come
from?
When the crew first entered the temple with the vases and the giant head sculpture, there were worms crawling on the ground.  When the two scientists entered the temple later, after much of the ooze had leaked out, the worms were transformed into the snake like creature.
 
Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI......


simple minded kids
Elaborate...
I honestly haven't seen anything on this movie besides the preview on TV, and i immediately was reminded of Zecharia Sitchin and his work on the Sumerian story of "alien engineers" who created a sub species race to mine GOLD for the preservation of their own planet... they ruled over the earth since they created us... they spliced their genes with the homosapiensapiens that were here aka " Neanderthal '... i cant really speak on it so well because i haven't studied it for 30 yrs but i read about 4 books on the subject and i feel as if there is some truth to this theory because it fills alot of holes that we just arent taught at anytime in our lives
 
Originally Posted by jhova718

Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI......


simple minded kids


Even if youre right, why the condescending tone?I hate smug people like you.
im far from smug... i just find it humorous when a bunch of teeny boppers speaking on this movie without much knowledge of the Sumerian tales....
all the references to the Alien OG movie is laughable but i havent seen it in a long time so i just went along with it.. but 5 -6 pages in and NO references to the annunaki who are regarded as the "engineers" of our species to ancient groups all across the world... THE SUMERIANS, THE MAYANS , THE ANCIENT ASIATIC , THE AFRICANS , THE PERSIANS ALL SPEAKS OF GODS COMING FROM THE HEAVENS FLYING ON CHARIOTS, MAGIC CARPETS, WINGED DISCS, GLOWING ORBS ETC.... THIS AINT A COINKIDINK.. THIS IS REAL LIFE... 
 
Originally Posted by devildog1776

Originally Posted by jhova718

Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI......


simple minded kids


Even if youre right, why the condescending tone?I hate smug people like you.
im far from smug... i just find it humorous when a bunch of teeny boppers speaking on this movie without much knowledge of the Sumerian tales....
all the references to the Alien OG movie is laughable but i havent seen it in a long time so i just went along with it.. but 5 -6 pages in and NO references to the annunaki who are regarded as the "engineers" of our species to ancient groups all across the world... THE SUMERIANS, THE MAYANS , THE ANCIENT ASIATIC , THE AFRICANS , THE PERSIANS ALL SPEAKS OF GODS COMING FROM THE HEAVENS FLYING ON CHARIOTS, MAGIC CARPETS, WINGED DISCS, GLOWING ORBS ETC.... THIS AINT A COINKIDINK.. THIS IS REAL LIFE... 

YOU DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE MOVIE

THE  KNOWLEDGE YOU KICKING IS INVALID

"THE ANNUNAKI" ....
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Originally Posted by G14

Originally Posted by devildog1776

Originally Posted by jhova718



Even if youre right, why the condescending tone?I hate smug people like you.
im far from smug... i just find it humorous when a bunch of teeny boppers speaking on this movie without much knowledge of the Sumerian tales....
all the references to the Alien OG movie is laughable but i havent seen it in a long time so i just went along with it.. but 5 -6 pages in and NO references to the annunaki who are regarded as the "engineers" of our species to ancient groups all across the world... THE SUMERIANS, THE MAYANS , THE ANCIENT ASIATIC , THE AFRICANS , THE PERSIANS ALL SPEAKS OF GODS COMING FROM THE HEAVENS FLYING ON CHARIOTS, MAGIC CARPETS, WINGED DISCS, GLOWING ORBS ETC.... THIS AINT A COINKIDINK.. THIS IS REAL LIFE... 

YOU DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE MOVIE

THE  KNOWLEDGE YOU KICKING IS INVALID

"THE ANNUNAKI" ....
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NO NEED TO BASH ME HOMEBOY... do you even know who the annunaki is? im sure you do. you seem like a person who reads on their off time .... 
go do a little research before you dismiss me so quickly.... 

i did a quick google search about 5 minutes ago and I came up with a few websites of people who are saying something quite similar to my theory on this movie...

Prometheus movie and the Annunaki « The Noetic Digest

http://www.infowars.com/secrets-of-prometheus-film-leaked/

The Engineers were slaves.

#imjusaying
 
That tinfoil on tight today.
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We haven't gone crazy diving into the mythology, because this movie halfway made it clear that there ain't muh reward coming on the other side.

And this is a prequel to Alien.

If this was At the Moountains of Madness, maybe we'd put the work in on your tinfoil *%%%, but look at how in-depth dudes have gotten finding the strands from Alien just in the trailer.

Acting like dudes been saying 'needed more *******' for 15 pages.
Calm ya $*+ down.
 
Originally Posted by MrONegative

That tinfoil on tight today.
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We haven't gone crazy diving into the mythology, because this movie halfway made it clear that there ain't muh reward coming on the other side.

And this is a prequel to Alien.

If this was At the Moountains of Madness, maybe we'd put the work in on your tinfoil *%%%, but look at how in-depth dudes have gotten finding the strands from Alien just in the trailer.

Acting like dudes been saying 'needed more *******' for 15 pages.
Calm ya $*+ down.

its just a movie.... 
 
anytime someone says something different from the crowd, he's wearing a tinfoil hat......

i was just trying to bring in something that wasnt here before... carry on peasants
 
Originally Posted by devildog1776

anytime someone says something different from the crowd, he's wearing a tinfoil hat......

i was just trying to bring in something that wasnt here before... carry on peasants

Originally Posted by devildog1776

Originally Posted by MrONegative

its just a movie....
 
just streamed it- thoroughly enjoyed... Wish it was about an hour longer tho. 
 
Originally Posted by devildog1776

anytime someone says something different from the crowd, he's wearing a tinfoil hat......

i was just trying to bring in something that wasnt here before... carry on peasants
Trying to bring in something that wasn't here is great and if you did just that, I don't know who would have a problem with it.
But what you did was come in and say one thing then follow that with "simple minded kids"... then when you do provide more information you still add "teeny boppers".. and finally, "peasants". Being condescending and dismissive of other posters is probably the worst way to get your point across. And when your point is trying to spread awareness of something that's interesting and maybe wasn't obvious to your average movie goer.. to insult those people is quite counterproductive. 
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by devildog1776

anytime someone says something different from the crowd, he's wearing a tinfoil hat......

i was just trying to bring in something that wasnt here before... carry on peasants
Trying to bring in something that wasn't here is great and if you did just that, I don't know who would have a problem with it.
But what you did was come in and say one thing then follow that with "simple minded kids"... then when you do provide more information you still add "teeny boppers".. and finally, "peasants". Being condescending and dismissive of other posters is probably the worst way to get your point across. And when your point is trying to spread awareness of something that's interesting and maybe wasn't obvious to your average movie goer.. to insult those people is quite counterproductive. 
I wasnt dismissive at all... I just stated something i observed and got ridiculed for it.... 
oh well... read up on the annunaki and you'll see the references.. 

 now i want to see this movie....

first I gotta watch aliens again..... 
 
Originally Posted by devildog1776

I wasnt dismissive at all... I just stated something i observed and got ridiculed for it.... 
oh well... read up on the annunaki and you'll see the references.. 

 now i want to see this movie....

first I gotta watch aliens again..... 

First thing you say
Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI...... 


simple minded kids
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by devildog1776

I wasnt dismissive at all... I just stated something i observed and got ridiculed for it.... 
oh well... read up on the annunaki and you'll see the references.. 

 now i want to see this movie....

first I gotta watch aliens again..... 
First thing you say
Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI...... 


simple minded kids

lol this guy really trying to ignore that his first post was condescending.
 
Originally Posted by gatorad3

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by devildog1776

I wasnt dismissive at all... I just stated something i observed and got ridiculed for it.... 
oh well... read up on the annunaki and you'll see the references.. 

 now i want to see this movie....

first I gotta watch aliens again..... 
First thing you say
Originally Posted by devildog1776

THIS FILM IS ALL ABOUT THE ANNUNAKI...... 


simple minded kids
lol this guy really trying to ignore that his first post was condescending.

learned a new word? 
 
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