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[mayhemmonkey000]

Originally Posted by Anthony Stark

I'm gonna give it to the guy who won the fight.

Wack. Way to bypass the question. This isn't Pride. It's round by round... It's clear who won the 2nd (Rampage) and who won the 3rd (Machida). Who would you give the first round to? The guy trying to engage or the guy moving backwards? Please tell me you're still not believing in this whole Machida is elusive crap. You wanna know where Machida is when people try to engage with him? Five feet back. That's why you can't hit him.

 

[chino905]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

 

[anthony stark]

Sorry, I'm not about to get into a huge argument over something like this.

I felt like Machida won the 1st and 3rd rounds, if you feel differently that's fine.

Congrats to Rampage, looking forward to the rematch.

 

[quiickz]

I had Rampage winning the first 2 rounds. 3rd was all Machida. But of course, 2 > 1. So Rampage wins.

 

[T0INE]

I see a couple of you dudes referencing how fights were scored in Pride.

Can one of you more "seasoned" MMA dudes school me on how fights were scored in Pride and how it's different from the UFC's scoring system?

 

[gunna get it]

Originally Posted by Anthony Stark


looking forward to the rematch.

Not me. u can keep that snooze fest

 

[mayhemmonkey000]

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

All I is know he trains at Hermes Franca's gym. From what I heard his stand up is LIGHT YEARS from his ground but it's serviceable.

Sorry, I'm not about to get into a huge argument over something like this.

I felt like Machida won the 1st and 3rd rounds.

If you feel differently, that's fine.

Congrats to Rampage, looking forward to the rematch.
It's not a "huge argument". It's an internet message board, that is the point of all this is to see other people's viewpoints. All I wanna know is how you can give it to the guy back peddling the whole compared to the guy actually trying to engage? Machida isn't elusive. It seems the judges finally realize that.

I see a couple of you dudes referencing how fights were scored in Pride.

Can one of you more "seasoned" MMA dudes school me on how fights were scored in Pride and how it's different from the UFC's scoring system?
No ten point system. Judges just choose a winner at the end of the fight. It's also based on a different criteria compared to the UFC. Pride wants fights finished. And it's more friendly to guys on their backs.

 

[lakersfan1]

Originally Posted by MayhemMonkey000

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

All I is know he trains at Hermes Franca's gym. From what I heard his stand up is LIGHT YEARS from his ground but it's serviceable.

Sorry, I'm not about to get into a huge argument over something like this.

I felt like Machida won the 1st and 3rd rounds.

If you feel differently, that's fine.

Congrats to Rampage, looking forward to the rematch.

It's not a "huge argument". It's an internet message board, that is the point of all this is to see other people's viewpoints. All I wanna know is how you can give it to the guy back peddling the whole compared to the guy actually trying to engage? Machida isn't elusive. It seems the judges finally realize that.



Thank you I honestly think Rampage thought Machida won because the last round he was getting beat. But as a round to round judging, i felt he deserved round 1 for being aggressive and Octagon control and Round 2 for the same reason. People keep thinking that if you win 1 round convincingly you win the whole fight. If Machida wasn't so scared and did what he did in the last round though out the whole fight he would of won simple as that.

 

[pridefan]

This is the judging criteria for Pride.
the effort made to finish the fight via KO or submission
damage given to the opponent
standing combinations and ground control
takedowns and takedown defense
aggressiveness
weight (in the case that the weight difference is 10 kg/22 lb or more)

 

[therenegade23]

1st RD was very close. While 2nd went to Rampage, and 3rd went to Machida. Both can fight soon since no one really got hurt.
They should make Fitch vs. Penn

 

[club29]

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

there are no belt systems in Muay Thai

but yes, Edzon Barboza looked very impressive in his debut.

Pat Barry-like leg kicks, geesh.

 

[norcalhussla]

Machida was robbed imo. Penn looked

tonight.

 

[sbrar8]

Just came home

Machida did not win that fight

 

[lastchance21]

Karma for Machida from that first fight with Shogun haha..

 

[pridefan]

Just read mma junkie score cards. They gave the first and 3rd to Machida. Call me crazy but I would award effort to fight with rampage then be "elusive" with hitting and running with Machida.

 

[tennhouse2]

Honestly im glad the first round went to Rampage after chasing Machida around the ring....dodging and running are not the same thing

 

[tooeasy891]

BJ!

He will be fighting Fitch next!
Rampage did a good job aswell.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Originally Posted by Club29

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

there are no belt systems in Muay Thai

but yes, Edzon Barboza looked very impressive in his debut.

Pat Barry-like leg kicks, geesh.

Chute Boxe and some other gyms in Brazil give out belts for Muay Thai. So Chill 

 

[mayhemmonkey000]

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Originally Posted by Club29

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

there are no belt systems in Muay Thai

but yes, Edzon Barboza looked very impressive in his debut.

Pat Barry-like leg kicks, geesh.

Chute Boxe and some other gyms in Brazil give out belts for Muay Thai. So Chill 

Yup, some schools use a belt system. I'm pretty sure Fairtex uses a belt system too (at least some branches do). I know for sure Chute Boxe uses it. Schools use it as a ranking system and motivational factors.

 

[club29]

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Originally Posted by Club29

Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Did you guys see Edson Barboza.

. Dude' leg kicks are nasty. On wikipedia it says he is a black belt in Muay Thai, does anyone know how his ground game is?

there are no belt systems in Muay Thai

but yes, Edzon Barboza looked very impressive in his debut.

Pat Barry-like leg kicks, geesh.

Chute Boxe and some other gyms in Brazil give out belts for Muay Thai. So Chill 

chill? I didnt say it in any sort of hostile fashion 

why you so upset son?

 

[bwoodfolkgd74]

Rampage won the first round with the first foot stomp

 

[gunna get it]

"there are no belt systems in Muay Thai ---->

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Im thinkin thats the reason dude told you to chill...

 

[ex carrabba fan]

Machida: loser of Jones/Bader? Phil Davis? Loser of Griffin/Franklin? Those are my top choices

Rampage: immediate title shot? winner of Jones/Bader? I would love for him to either get a title shot or fight winner of Jones/Bader

Please no immediate rematch of Page/Machida. Kinda boring........

 

[shogun]

Originally Posted by toine2983

I see a couple of you dudes referencing how fights were scored in Pride.

Can one of you more "seasoned" MMA dudes school me on how fights were scored in Pride and how it's different from the UFC's scoring system?

like someone mentioned, no 10-point scoring system.
the fight as a whole is judged and not round by round.

the damage you caused is a big factor in how judges decide who won the fight.