Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

[8pm at msg]

Faried only got 21 mins?

 

[rook]

If you put a gun to my head and told me to pick between Steph and Kyrie...I'd go Kyrie.

And it sucks because Steph been my favorite player since Davidson

 

[8pm at msg]

Shaq and Charles been firing more shots than usual at each other tonight

 

[Nawzlew]

did chuck say lentil soup?

the whip

 

[acbboyz84]

Impressive win by the Warriors.

Curry smh. That boi good. :x

Barnes played one heck of a game too.

These two boys need to join the Lakers.

 

[Nawzlew]

 

[JD617]

I don't know what you guys are seeing to make you question Steph's PG skills.

 

[sooperhooper]

Knicks v heat is gonna be an intense series.

 

[mr2cool80]

So the consensus of this Steph vs Kyrie debate concludes with................?

 

[addict4sneakers]

I don't know what you guys are seeing to make you question Steph's PG skills.

This. His assist numbers would be higher if he played off the ball. He averages more assists than kyrie with a significantly lower usage rate

 

[JD617]

So the consensus of this Steph vs Kyrie debate concludes with................?

Steph is better right now. Kyrie is 4 years younger and could be better in the future.

 

[jsindaa]

So the consensus of this Steph vs Kyrie debate concludes with................?

Steph

 

[jaypiff]

BIRDMAN! BIRDMAN!!

 

[uncharteddrake]

LMAOOOO!!

 

[sooperhooper]

"If you're gonna say his name, say it right...... BIRDMAN BIRDMAN!!!!"
Kenny is kinda funny when he says it, but Shaq's delivery is so on point with it

 

[cornzilla]

That Barnes reverse, love the reaction from Bazemore and Green.

 

[big j 33]

i know he's unpopular here, but Shaq has been great tonight. Him almost keeling over to start the show, then dunking, then that stupid Birdman hat he's wearing , then his reaction to that Chuck picture

 

[Bert.]

Warriors were filthy tonight :x

 

[johnson1]

Barnes rookie highlight reel is gonna be absurd

 

[Nawzlew]

my dude Ernie

 

[big j 33]

I wish Ernie didn't screw that up... that was great

 

[mr2cool80]

I see the argument that Steph can be regarded more as a shooting guard with great passing ability but lets not be mislead enough to believe that he wouldnt start at the PG spot (exclusively) for a vast majority of teams with established PG's already.

 

[drewsone]

Damn sounds like I missed a good Inside The NBA ):

 

[510thanos]

That home winning streak was snapped. Great game, Steph Curry is really the truth. Every Warrior played well tonight.

INFO!!!!!

http://www.warriorsteamstore.com/gdgsw12321302.html

Steph Curry assists number tonight was nice but his game definitely seems more like a shooting guard who happens to pass well than a point guard who happens to score well. Either way his game is very flexible.

yea he is flexible his PG skills are very underrated. i think he could be an all star PG with only average shooting ability

 

[h3at23]

Cavaliers need to give up dream of 2014 reunion with LeBron James

Mike Brown is returning to Cleveland, but the odds of LeBron James joining him aren't great. (Getty Images)
From the moment Mike Brown marches back into the Cleveland Cavaliers, ownership needs to empower him to tell everyone the truth: LeBron James is gone and he's never returning to the franchise.
No more tanking for draft picks. No more empty free-agent classes. No more false promises and mirages. No more illusions of chasing James in the summer of 2014, only to compromise themselves over and over in the conceptual pursuit of him.

The Cavaliers have a franchise player, Kyrie Irving, and here's the problem today: No one cares his thoughts on the next coach, nor how the hiring affects him. Every day Brown's ever spent on the job as Cavaliers coach, every choice and action was colored with how LeBron James would react, how he'd respond.
For the good of this franchise, Brown doesn't need to be set up again as the fall guy for James wanting to play elsewhere. Three years later, Brown returns to coach the Cavaliers and somehow they're all still trying to get LeBron James to love them.

"The way Mike had to bend for LeBron weakened him as a leader," one former Cavaliers staffer told Yahoo! Sports. "They'd be crazy to put him through that again. It's pointless."

It is a fact James' agent, Rich Paul, has eagerly created anticipation for James' possible return in 2014, but eventually his client will have to spare himself the pummeling of raising Northeast Ohio's hopes, only to dash them under closer inspection of the move.

Mike Brown was fired by the Cavs two months before LeBron James left for Miami. (Getty Images)
To trade Pat Riley and Erik Spoelstra for Cavs general manager Chris Grant and Brown is unfathomable. Riley has surrounded James with magnificent talent and a winning culture, and Spoelstra's creativity and discipline have played a significant part in his transcendent evolution.

Yes, James loves Northeast Ohio and will always keep a home there, but the idea of returning as the conquering hero is probably much more romantic than reality. Outside of Irving, there's still little infrastructure to these Cavaliers.
Privately, the Cleveland front office has pitched a fantasy of trading young players and picks to Portland for All-Star forward LaMarcus Aldridge, sources said. Only, that's never going to happen. Cleveland is far higher on its two top-five picks, Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters, than the rest of the NBA.

Outside of winning the lottery for Irving, it's hard to make the case for one thing the Cavaliers have gotten right in the wake of James' departure.

And all the Shane Battiers and Ray Allens who had come into James' life with the Heat wouldn't join him in Cleveland. As Battier told Yahoo! Sports in March about the lure of LeBron James for veteran free agents willing to take discounts to chase championships with him, "It'll help him if he's in a warm city."

"I love LeBron, but if LeBron asks me to go play with the Anchorage Bears of the Alaskan Basketball Association," Battier said, "that'll be a tough sell for Mrs. Battier."

If you're living and playing on the shores of Biscayne Bay, Cleveland is Anchorage.

There's no shame there. This isn't an indictment of Cleveland. It's a great, passionate NBA market, but the Cavaliers need to start trying to win basketball games. They have a franchise player, and they've squandered chances to surround him with the best available talent. Thompson over Jonas Valanciunas made no sense on draft day, and makes even less now.

Byron Scott never fought the front office on gutting the roster, but Brown won't have patience for it. Brown isn't flashy, but his teams are excellent on the defensive end, and few, if any, more appealing coaching candidates were accessible for Cleveland. The call to Phil Jackson was a farce, a way for the organization to simply say, "See, we tried."
For Brown, the choice was easy: For the happiness of his family, he moved back to Cleveland. They want to live there and he wants to coach again. What job is out there that's so much better that he would want to uproot his family again?

As one league source who knows Brown well said, "There are still some scars," and most of those centered on the relationship with owner Dan Gilbert. Brown understands that former GM Danny Ferry fought Gilbert to keep him as coach in 2010, and that ultimately played a part in Ferry walking out of the job. To keep James, Gilbert believed he had to fire Brown.
As it turns out, it wouldn't have mattered. LeBron was gone, and he was never coming back in 2010. Three years later, Brown is back and the Cavaliers no longer need to live in make-believe land. These are Kyrie Irving's Cleveland Cavaliers and the franchise needs to stop stalling, stop selling false hope and start winning again. As Mike Brown walks back into the room, let him say it for everyone to hear. Once and for all, let this franchise, this city, this coach – let everyone – move on.

Adrian Wojnarowski