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Your answer is fine. It’s just funny that you keep saying it even though it’s not how you voted multiple times. For the past 8 years a the very least. You voted to control women’s privates. You like controlling women’s privates to killing. Why do you justify controlling women’s privates?I’ve answered; I don’t.
If this is circular it is because you keep asking the exact same question. It seems you just don’t like my answer.
Your answer is fine. It’s just funny that you keep saying it even though it’s not how you voted multiple times. For the past 8 years a the very least. You voted to control women’s privates. You like controlling women’s privates to killing. Why do you justify controlling women’s privates?
Can you add a maga hat?At this point, it’s clear that you have not read my responses. I’ve been very clear.
I hope that you find the answers by re-reading my prior posts. But aside from that, I don’t have anything else to add.
I choose sick and die for 500 pleaseThe people who tell you to march against masks wear them.
The people who tell you to not vaccinate have had two doses before any of us did.
The people who tell you to send your kids to crowded schools and to go to restaurants have private tutors and exclusive catering in the safety of their homes.
At some point, right wingers will have to get over their ego and admit they were wrong and were led by hustlers, or they'll get sick and die...
My only argument for that is Lieberman is an example of why they would not be wise to attempt this with Manchin. He is embedded in W.VA politics, and he legitimately is in a hotbed state where there is a better chance they lose the seat to the Republicans than replace him with a more controllable Democrat. Arizona and Sinema are different. Arizona is a solidly purple state (with another Dem Senator) and Sinema didn't run and win her seat on being a blue dog democrat. Just from a long-term view, the party needs to get her out of the paint before she becomes a long-term heel like Manchin.Dems tried this plan before
Google "Connecticut 2006 Senate election"
Sinema will get primaried though
Lieberman was in a solidly blue state. A lot of the party got together to try to get Liebermann out of the paint. And they were able to beat him in a primary. The electorate Liebermann faced was way bluer than what Manchin facedMy only argument for that is Lieberman is an example of why they would not be wise to attempt this with Manchin. He is embedded in W.VA politics, and he legitimately is in a hotbed state where there is a better chance they lose the seat to the Republicans than replace him with a more controllable Democrat. Arizona and Sinema are different. Arizona is a solidly purple state (with another Dem Senator) and Sinema didn't run and win her seat on being a blue dog democrat. Just from a long-term view, the party needs to get her out of the paint before she becomes a long-term heel like Manchin.
As much as she is letting how blatant donations can influence her get out. I question her grasp on politics. Does she realize the party will kick her and her hideous dresses out? I legit don't know.
I always say "The House is built for ****ery" and she moves like she is still in the house where the lack of spotlight allows you to make shady deals and have large personalities. Most senators are as interesting as whole wheat toast and have seen more than their fair share of peers lose their seats in the Senate for taking money from BS the people don't want them too.
I don't know how much political analysis of the pre-Obama can still be considered informative when it comes to predicting election results in a post-Trump America.Lieberman was in a solidly blue state. A lot of the party got together to try to get Liebermann out of the paint. And they were able to beat him in a primary. The electorate Liebermann faced was way bluer than what Manchin faced
Not saying that Sinema should not be primaried, but if she doesn't accept defeat in a primary she can **** over the party by running as an independent and locking in a GOP victory.
I don't think Schumer is being a coward for not plotting on her now. It is not like it is a lock the plan will work. That's all I am saying.
The way Sinema is moving doesn't make any damn sense. Unless she thinks Arizona is gonna start trending back Republican. If it keeps going blue, Dems in her state will try to get her out of the paint every chance she sense.
I honestly think she might not be running for reelection because she is moving way too stupid out here.
I am not saying they shouldn't be primaried, I am saying acting like it is some silver bullet to the Dems problems is simply not true. And Schumer not back this plan is somehow born out of cowardice. Dems already tried it under better conditions and it went horribly.I don't know how much political analysis of the pre-Obama can still be considered informative when it comes to predicting election results in a post-Trump America.
2006 feels like many decades ago. We were not even in the middle of the housing crisis, and times didn't feel as desperate as they do now. We still had politicians like Sinema and Manchin, but we didn't have an overtly anti-democratic, pro-authoritarian GOP sitting right next to them. We didn't have an attempt to openly subvert presidential election results through violent action.
Centrist Democrats in blue districts should be primaried, and it's only then that we will know how much the blue voting public has forgiven and forgotten about the GOP and its enablers.
IDk it just feels like she is a housemember who knew how to personally come up at that level and is making rookie mistakes at the game of being a Senator. You can throw stones and hide your hands a lot easier in the house, whereas in the Senate everything you do is on main street in your entire state for scrutiny, and in situations like this nationally.Lieberman was in a solidly blue state. A lot of the party got together to try to get Liebermann out of the paint. And they were able to beat him in a primary. The electorate Liebermann faced was way bluer than what Manchin faced
Not saying that Sinema should not be primaried, but if she doesn't accept defeat in a primary she can **** over the party by running as an independent and locking in a GOP victory.
I don't think Schumer is being a coward for not plotting on her now. It is not like it is a lock the plan will work. That's all I am saying.
The way Sinema is moving doesn't make any damn sense. Unless she thinks Arizona is gonna start trending back Republican. If it keeps going blue, Dems in her state will try to get her out of the paint every chance she sense.
I honestly think she might not be running for reelection because she is moving way too stupid out here.
I assume that loyalty is measured by the number of voters in the state who reliably vote democrat, to which I ask, how about those who wouldn't vote Democrat before Trump and Jan 6th? How much of the voting populace do they constitute in AZ?Loyal Democratic voters are simply not enough to up anyone over the top in Arizona.
But in Arizona winning right now takes not only winning nearly all the Democratic votes available but if I remember correctly also a majority of independents, and a tiny chunk of Republicans. Sinema's threat as an independent is not that she will win is that she will deny the other Democrat the numbers for him to win. Locking in a GOP victory.
I also think that would keep her from being able to **** over the party if she lost the primary. She’s done nothing that she can tell Arizona voters to “Don’t vote for the party, vote for me specifically!”
Here are the demographics of AZ...I assume that loyalty is measured by the number of voters in the state who reliably vote democrat, to which I ask, how about those who wouldn't vote Democrat before Trump and Jan 6th? How much of the voting populace do they constitute in AZ?
It's usually progressives and other left-leaning voters who split the democratic vote to guarantee GOP victories. Given the point below