***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[starfox070]

So. technically you could test positive and NOT be contagious? If so, I fail to understand the importance of being tested.....

IF YOU TEST POS YOU ARE CONTAGIOUS

in fact Let’s say u have symptoms and full blown corona and then get better you still are CONTAGIOUS and Also require another test to clear you. Once clear with a neg test u fine.

basically until you are negative you are contagious.

 

[storm2006]

storm2006

BTW, this was the buffoonery I was referring to regarding the CEO...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/business/Boeing-ceo-muilenburg.html



I will response to your other points and questions later because I was in the process of typing everything but the work document I was doing it in crashed and didn't recover most of the post. And I was not in the mood to redo it at the time.

Sorry your document crashed . That's the worst feeling in the world because I always am like "Damn...this second copy ain't gonna be a good enough."

To be clear, despite my defense in this situation, I am absolutely not a Republican, Conservative, MAGGOT, etc. and will admit scumbaggery when I see it (as I often do with everything the Trump and the GOP does). If you want to talk about how low companies go....So Boeing put aside $100MM to give families for assistance. However, the families obviously wanted more so since Boeing is Chicago-based, the airlines were going to sure them in the US Justice System. HOWEVER, the airlines are based in Indonesia and Ethiopia so if the families weren't amenable to some sort of settlement, Boeing was willing to argue jurisdiction and that the crashes happened in their home countries so the case should be tried in their respective countries. While this may seem insignificant at a glance, the reason behind the strategy was that those countries don't grant the right to a jury like in the U.S. so the families would be rolling the dice at getting nothing That level of corporate posturing had me shook and it as at a level I cannot support. But as I said, 'Merican Big Businesses gonna Big Business

 

[fargin]

At the end of the day Boeing will probably get a favorable loan. Not because they are deemed essential for national security, but because they have sufficiently kissed Trump's fat ***.

That will be the case will many companies.

We all not the nonsense Mnuchin and Trump are about to do with that bailout money.

All they have to do is offer up a privat Trump Force One and they are golden. Both parties are just playing hard to get.

 

[boris]

So. technically you could test positive and NOT be contagious? If so, I fail to understand the importance of being tested.....

Not a doctor but... If you’re testing positive I think that means you have some viral load. Having a viral load means the virus is replicating inside of your body at the moment and infecting cells. Even if you’re asymptomatic, you can still shed the virus in your bodily fluids and you can also breathe the virus out.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I think I can beat Covid-19 if I get it but I am worried it will put me in the hospital, and maybe on a ventilator.

I dunno what it is but the regular Flu is brutal for me already, been that way since I was in my early 20s. I always end up with respiratory issues.

Just to add to this. The worst instance was when I got a bad sinus infection in combination with a bad case of the flu. One of them always puts me on my ***, them in combination had me feeling like it was it for me, real talk. I had no insurance so I couldn't go to the doctor. We were so cash strapped I refused to go to the emergency room.

There I am 21 years old, Mom Dukes was beside me the whole way, telling me to hold.

And me on my bed like...

'Dis it mane, dis it"

 

[don ramon]

LOL! Every time this dude Trump opens his mouth about this virus? Things become increasingly worse for him and his constituency.

i hope so. they all deserve the worst

 

[aepps20]

I think I can beat Covid-19 if I get it but I am worried it will put me in the hospital, and maybe on a ventilator.

I dunno what it is but the regular Flu is brutal for me already, been that way since I was in my early 20s. I always end up with respiratory issues.

No doubt that you will beat it if you get it. Beating Covid-19 can't be tougher than fighting DWalk and his disgusting support for people that hurt kids

 

[isu 42]

I'm curious what kind of help will be available for sole proprietors.

 

[dwalk31]

I'm curious what kind of help will be available for sole proprietors.

If the sole proprietor makes less than 75k they will be eligible for those one-time check payments. I believe they are $1200 per person.

 

[isu 42]

If the sole proprietor makes less than 75k they will be eligible for those one-time check payments. I believe they are $1200 per person.

I'm talking more about loans. I currently don't qualify.

 

[pdino]

I'm talking more about loans. I currently don't qualify.

Will have to see if Sole proprietors are considered small businesses. If not, you can probably pursue getting an LLC (or different business designation) to qualify

 

[Deleted member 42060]

When a family member ask me for money they never dictate to me how the loan is gonna go. They don't say I want the money on my terms, period. If they can't accept my terms, then best believe I tell them to go to their local bank and ask for a line of credit.

The argument that they should be allowed to be crony capitalist because everyone is crony capitalist is horrible reasoning to give Boeing a bailout, with no strings. Excusing bad behavior, because other people engage in bad behavior, is something students do in classrooms. On principle I will not accept that argument. Until there is widespread reform, you roo it out wherever you can.

Well if they are going so great, then it is then all the more reason for them to not need a bailout. If the business is so healthy, if they got so many options, if their press tour is working out; Then them fools can go about their business without anymore government largesse.

Accept the terms or move on.

and I take collateral. Maybe interest. I don't wanna offer a cent for free to people who didnt help me. Besides, if they can't repay, the balance is deducted from that house, car etc. Its business, nothing personal .

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

 

[Mark Antony]

Hey healthcare has a shortage of hands, I say everyone suggesting voluntary infection be drafted into service to help.

 

[IATT]

 

[Fozz]

I think I can beat Covid-19 if I get it but I am worried it will put me in the hospital, and maybe on a ventilator.

I dunno what it is but the regular Flu is brutal for me already, been that way since I was in my early 20s. I always end up with respiratory issues.

Same. I used to only have season asthma...But in the past 2 years, I've had it almost year round.

 

[noshoegame]

I'm going to break character for a minute because I've absolutely had it with this clown.

These press briefings are a mess, and it's clear that he's become nothing but a distraction. We can't have someone up there who keeps contradicting the advice the experts are giving us. He is a danger to Americans.

Now, more than ever, we need to come together. Anthony Fauci must go.

Agree 100%.

 

[rexanglorum]

Ghouls on business news channels say we should have the COVID relief legislation that’s not shaped by “ideology.” Of course, they mean any shade of left ideology.

To those people, lavishing favorable loans on big business and kicking a little money to workers and thus maintaining precarity is not ideology, it’s business as usual.

 

[boris]

I’m not sure what it is with the GOP and its supporters and refusing to ever taking personal responsibility for anything.

He was concerned enough to get tested, which means he understood that there was a chance he was infected. If he understood that there was a chance he was infected, he should have been under quarantine. He should have been operating under the assumption that he was infected.

In true GOP fashion, he’s deflecting blame. He’s a physician and knows better.

 

[IATT]

I’m not sure what it is with the GOP and its supporters and refusing to ever taking personal responsibility for anything.

He was concerned enough to get tested, which means he understood that there was a chance he was infected. If he understood that there was a chance he was infected, he should have been under quarantine. He should have been operating under the assumption that he was infected.

In true GOP fashion, he’s deflecting blame. He’s a physician and knows better.

id sue the hell out of him, especially in the US

if I got exposed to dude to any degree, I’d on the phone with my lawyer.. even if I didn’t get it

as soon as he had an suspicions AND especially after he got the test and should have been isolated for a number of days until receiving the results

 

[uncalled4boy]

I'm going to break character for a minute because I've absolutely had it with this clown.

These press briefings are a mess, and it's clear that he's become nothing but a distraction. We can't have someone up there who keeps contradicting the advice the experts are giving us. He is a danger to Americans.

Now, more than ever, we need to come together. Anthony Fauci must go.

 

[Present]

I think I can beat Covid-19 if I get it but I am worried it will put me in the hospital, and maybe on a ventilator.

I dunno what it is but the regular Flu is brutal for me already, been that way since I was in my early 20s. I always end up with respiratory issues.

COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function
Chinese researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19. Scans suggest sustained organ damage.

Coronavirus can damage lung function after recovery – DW – 03/20/2020

Chinese researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19. Scans suggest sustained organ damage.

www.dw.com

 

[Present]

cap·i·tal·ism
/ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Capitalism = trade and industry

Socialism = means of production, distribution, and exchange

Seems to me that current events have exposed the folly of allowing capitalists to control trade, industry, production, distribution, and exchange.

It's clear that "We the People" ARE the means of production, distribution, and exchange.

Instead of controlling these ourselves, we have given away our power...to capitalists...so that they may capitalize on our ignorance.

Nothing wrong with honest profits, but profiting from the deaths of human beings is something capitalists have become exceedingly adept at for FAR too long.

Especially considering the fact that this country was founded on and created from that very thing.

No surprise that in 2020 - that sentiment remains.

We gotta do better - and until reparations are a reality...nothing said will matter.

Power concedes nothing without demand.

This virus should be a HUGE wake up call to all of us.

We out here looking like Neo while these bammas are the Architects.



First version = Heaven, Garden of Eden, Perfect but no choice.

Second version = Hell, Slavery, Horrid but no choice.

Current version = Mix of Heaven and Hell, indentured servitude to your role in society or outcast from it, Illusion of choice

 

[Belgium]