***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[IATT]

 

[moonman818]

I'm convinced this guy just comes and goes to practice his debating skills on y'all

He literally says nothing.

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

I'm convinced this guy just comes and goes to practice his debating skills on y'all

He literally says nothing.

dude probably lowkey can´t believe folks keep replying...my man literally typed CRIME BILL as a rebuttal today.

He giving his game plan away.....

wild part about this is he goes ¨ideally there would be an 8-0 or 9-0 decision¨...not even KINDA hiding it.

think about it...if guy wins again, he might personally select either just under or just over half the Court.


it´s like maybe they should have updated a 250 year old document controlling civilization from time to time.

 

[tego calderon el abayarde]

Stopped following this thread months ago, I come back and y'all still entertaining the troll.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Da ****

This is next level broke boi behavior

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[dacomeup]

White supremacy is the strongest drug known to man.

 

[boris]

I'm convinced this guy just comes and goes to practice his debating skills on y'all

He literally says nothing.

He's even admitted that he doesn't weigh the "meaningful legislation" passed under Trump against all of the terrible things the Trump administration does. He refuses to have an actual discussion and wants everyone else to raise points so he can argue against them.

To your first question, I have not done that.

To your second question, I do not.

My comparison is based on the ability for certain measures to get passed based on the current makeup of Congress.

I am just unsure of what you are trying to accomplish. I told you my analysis. You think it dumb. Cool, we can agree to disagree.

You want me to list every negative of trump, and then every positive, and then you say SEE YOU ARE MAKING A BAD CHOICE!

We can skip all of that because I am conceding you argument.

Same for you with Biden, I'm not asking you to list every negative thing he's done to black people and then positive to weigh it, just so we end back at square one. Us agreeing to disagree on the better option.

If you want to engage, ask me about a negative thing you feel trump has done as it relates to black people specifically. And I will discuss it with you. But what you are asking is pointless and it wasn't my analysis. I told you my position and why.

 

[Belgium]

 

[IATT]

Seems obvious

 

[elpablo21]

 

[IATT]

Once the fines are paid, why should/would they care?

unless they care THAT much about people voting in spite of their efforts

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

the movie version of this ends with both men arriving to the Capitol early one January morning ready to be sworn in, bringing together their legions of supporters in a dramatic final clash for the soul of democracy.


of course, this is the Stupid Timeline, so we´re probably gonna get NFL Riots and the rise of Yeezy Jihad.

 

[boris]

It's crazy that the GOP is relying on voter suppression instead of their unique ability to pass meaningful legislation.

 

[frink85]

Da ****

This is next level broke boi behavior

Benjie Yahoo living the college freshman life

 

[RustyShackleford]

De Santis won the election by 32,463 votes.

If Gillum would have won, and these people would have had their voting rights restored.

The kicker, Hillary got 471,252 more votes in 2016 than Gillum got in 2018.

With ex-felons voting, Trump would be in a bad spot.

Every election counts, big or small matter. It all builds on one another.

-Also if Drew won, he wouldn't have started drinking and would not have ended up bucket naked passed out in a hotel room while another dude is ODing on meth.

 

[IATT]

 

[tego calderon el abayarde]

Guys! Trump and the GOP can't be racist! They're Kanye West's friends!!!

 

[Methodical Management]

Dude is arguing classim is a bigger issue than racism. Yet he supports the candidate that will make income inequality even worse.

Anyone who still stubbornly insists on perpetuating the notion of class primacy or reductionism should read Caste: The Origin of our Discontents by Isabelle Wilkerson.
Amazon product ASIN B084FLWDQG
Like The Warmth of Other Suns, Caste should be required reading.

Horrible, indefensible, and clear grounds to not vote for him—if true.

This is as utterly pathetic as it is unsurprising.

A racist is someone who feels that their race is superior to that of others. Or someone who discriminates against others because of the color of their skin.

A racist is someone who feels that their race is superior to that of others.

Trump tells white audience in Minnesota they have 'good genes'

The president complimented a crowd at his rally on Saturday before denigrating Somali refugees.

news.yahoo.com

Trump says Department of Education will investigate use of 1619 Project in schools

President Donald Trump is continuing to wage battle against interpretations of history which he claims are un-American.

www.cnn.com

Or someone who discriminates against others because of the color of their skin.

The Trump Record: 53 Appeals Court Judges, and Not a Single One Is Black

Thanks to McConnell, Trump has named 200 judges overall. And he has a racial record worse than any president since Nixon.

www.thedailybeast.com

An Oral History of Trump’s Bigotry

His racism and intolerance have always been in evidence; only slowly did he begin to understand how to use them to his advantage.

www.theatlantic.com

I did.

It is a summary of what has been done and the headline suggests they are working to do more of the same, specifically as it relates to black people.

As you know, he’s already announced support for a second step act, and signed the Fair Chance Act into law after that press release.

As I have shown you before, here is the commitment to further criminal justice reform:

President Donald J. Trump Is Committed to Building on the Successes of the First Step Act

President Donald J. Trump Is Committed to Building on the Successes of the First Step Act

The Trump Administration is committed to helping prisoners successfully rejoin society after their release.

www.whitehouse.gov

As you were reminded last time, that press release is over a year old. This Axios interview is from last month:

Scoop: Trump regrets following Jared Kushner's advice on prison reform

Sources say the president is resolving to jettison any policies that go against his instincts, such as police reform.

www.axios.com

Has Donald Trump expressed any appetite for a "Second Step Act" after George Floyd's murder? I'm not sure if you've been paying attention to the race, but he's gone all in for "law and order." How many times has he mentioned a "Second Step Act" in the past four months? And how many times has he tweeted, in all caps, "LAW AND ORDER"?

You're trying to use a fig leaf in a hurricane.

I hate to break it to you, but Santa Claus isn't real, either:

Trump declared he was working on a Second Step Act. The proposal doesn’t exist - Washington Examiner

President Trump began the month hosting a White House celebration with people freed from prison by the First Step Act. He told the April Fools' Day gathering the White House would work on a Second Step Act "right away."Despite the day, Trump was not joking. But he was also not correct.Sources...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Trump’s criminal justice policy, explained

Trump has claimed he’s "tough on crime" and for "law and order." Here’s what that really means.

www.vox.com

I'm convinced this guy just comes and goes to practice his debating skills on y'all

He literally says nothing.

And yet, he hasn't gotten any better. He just keeps making false equivalencies and sputtering out the same four bad faith talking points.

His arguments are low information, low skill, and low effort. They read like a call center script. I've had to check to make sure his account wasn't commandeered by a bot running out of St. Petersburg.

It would be more flattering to suggest that he intends his posts to be practiced on, like a speed bag.

 

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[yasuke.]

Somewhat off-topic, but I can't even take the state/national polls seriously when the WH is literally threatening to subvert the election by taking it up to the SCOTUS. I know you can't really factor in a coup or whatever, but seeing 538 give Biden roughly a 3/4 chance of winning means nothing in this climate. The only thing I'm *slightly* holding onto is that Trump and his stooges are legitimately incompetent and the military are not backing him. Every scheme he's had has blown up because they're incredibly bad at being bad (which still is very dangerous), and I wouldn't be surprised to see the rats flee from the ship if it saves their own skin in the end. Even the most wishful thinking can dry up though, sadly.

 

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[wavycrocket]

Think he’s pretty much compromised every institution at this point.





He’s really following the fascism playbook...and people don’t want to sound the alarm, because they believe it can’t happen here

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

what can´t happen here, a peaceful transfer of power?

Trump won't commit to peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election

"Well, we'll have to see what happens. You know that. I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots. And the ballots are a disaster," Trump said.

www.cnbc.com

President Donald Trump refused Wednesday to commit to a peaceful transition of power if he loses the 2020 election to Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

“Well, we’ll have to see what happens. You know that. I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots. And the ballots are a disaster,” Trump said at a news conference at the White House. It appeared Trump was referring to mail-in ballots, which he has repeatedly condemned, without evidence, as susceptible to massive fraud.

The president had been asked by a reporter if he would commit to a peaceful transferal of power, “win, lose or draw.”

When the reporter noted that “people are rioting,” Trump replied: “Get rid of the ballots, and you’ll have a very -- you’ll have a very peaceful -- there won’t be a transfer, frankly, there’ll be a continuation.”

cf.