Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[kevin cleveland]

I have no problem with the sixth place finish, though. About what I deserved.

The only problem I might have with anyone judging my team is shortchanging Adaptation. I probably could have selected it two rounds later, but there is no doubt in my mind that it was one of the best movies of that time span (and I despise Nicolas Cage, who plays TWO characters, so that should speak to how strong it is).

 

[kevin cleveland]

I have no problem with the sixth place finish, though. About what I deserved.

The only problem I might have with anyone judging my team is shortchanging Adaptation. I probably could have selected it two rounds later, but there is no doubt in my mind that it was one of the best movies of that time span (and I despise Nicolas Cage, who plays TWO characters, so that should speak to how strong it is).

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

I'm convinced Japan Air has not seen half the movies he ranked. His point system was absurd

You try ranking every single one of those movies, it's hard.

And Shaun, Buried sucked.

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

I'm convinced Japan Air has not seen half the movies he ranked. His point system was absurd

You try ranking every single one of those movies, it's hard.

And Shaun, Buried sucked.

 

[japanair21]

Maybe if I have time instead of ranking them, I'll give each movie a grade, and add up the grades, on a kind of grade point system, it'd work much better, I'd think.

 

[japanair21]

Maybe if I have time instead of ranking them, I'll give each movie a grade, and add up the grades, on a kind of grade point system, it'd work much better, I'd think.

 

[licensed to ball]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

I'm convinced Japan Air has not seen half the movies he ranked. His point system was absurd

Word...and i know it seems like im just sayin that cuz i was last on his list, but really? He hated Oceans 11? Who hated that movie...it was entertaining as hell. 500 days of summer is meh?? 

 casino royal overrated? really though? When it was THEE best bond movie of the decade...*sigh*... i dont have to be high up on your list or anything, but jeez i think the judging should be a little more suited towards the quality of the film as a whole...instead of whether or not the judge thinks it fits the genre...
I bet you haven't even seen Eternal Sunshine...

But yeah, i know i sound like im whining but I don't like judges grading based on genre only when they havent even seen all of the movies listed. How can you give points to movies you havent seen? I dont get it, there has to be a better way to judge 

 

[licensed to ball]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

I'm convinced Japan Air has not seen half the movies he ranked. His point system was absurd

Word...and i know it seems like im just sayin that cuz i was last on his list, but really? He hated Oceans 11? Who hated that movie...it was entertaining as hell. 500 days of summer is meh?? 

 casino royal overrated? really though? When it was THEE best bond movie of the decade...*sigh*... i dont have to be high up on your list or anything, but jeez i think the judging should be a little more suited towards the quality of the film as a whole...instead of whether or not the judge thinks it fits the genre...
I bet you haven't even seen Eternal Sunshine...

But yeah, i know i sound like im whining but I don't like judges grading based on genre only when they havent even seen all of the movies listed. How can you give points to movies you havent seen? I dont get it, there has to be a better way to judge 

 

[mronegative]

So this was how I planned on voting. The idea is I figure what I think were your best 5 movies and rate those out of 10 each, and then your next movies out of 5 each. I note whatever I don't really remember or haven't seen, but I'm not especially knocking you down for it.

I don't think ranking individual movies works.

JRP

A History of Violence, V for Vendetta, Training Day, Gladiator, District 9

Gone Baby Gone, The Fighter, Wedding Crashers, Shrek

/50/20-1 (Appalloosa)

JPZ

No Country For Old Men, Finding Nemo, American Gangster, Amelie, Black Swan

Remember the Titans, 127 Hours, The Hurt Locker, Munich, Star Trek

/50/25

Dirk

City of God, LOTR: Return of the King, Wall-E, The Royal Tenenbaums, Serenity

Snatch, Hotel Rwanda 

/50/10-3 (The Damn United, Brokeback Mountain, The Lives of Others)

Illmatic

Amores Perros, The Prestige, Infernal Affairs, 3:10 to Yuma, Lost in Translation

Sideways, Battle Royale, Y Tu Mama Tambien, Primer, Hook: Legend of Demetrious

/50/25

Kool

Oldboy, The Departed, Donnie Darko, True Grit, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

Anchorman, Talladega Nights, Pineapple Express, The Aviator, Benajamin Button

/50/25

Shaun

The Wrestler, Cast Away, UP, Gangs of New York, Knocked Up

Into the Wild, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, I Am Legend, Machete, Buried

/50/25

Prime

The Social Network, Kill Bill Vol. 1, American Psycho, United 93, Friday Night Lights

Superbad, Iron Man, Tropic Thunder, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Unbreakable

/50/25

Kev

Kill Bill, Vol. 2, Requiem For A Dream, 28 Days Later, Adaptation, Almost Famous

The King's Speech, Shutter Island, The Three Burials Melquiades Estrada

/50/15-2 (Downfall, Sugar)

CP

Inglourious Basterds, Inception, Batman Begins, Borat, Sin City

The Town, Crash, American Outlaws, Signs, The Blind Side

/50/25

Noskey

Let the Right One In, Pan's Labyrinth, The Pianist, , Mystic River, Toy Story 3

In Bruges, Hot Fuzz, Kung Fu Hustle, Million Dollar Baby

/50/20-1 (Un Prophete)

MrO

There Will Be Blood, Children of Men, Bourne Ultimatum, Michael Clayton, Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang

Shaun of the Dead, Black Hawk Down, The 25th Hour, Black Dynamite, Winning Time

/50/25

LTB

Eternal Sunshine, Memento, Casino Royale, Slumdog Millionaire, Catch Me If You Can

Ocean's 11, (500) Days of Summer, Up in the Air, Love & Basketball, Shanghai Noon

/50/25

Venom

The Dark Knight, Traffic, 40 Year Old Virgin, Cinderella Man, The Book of Eli

The Hangover, The Mask of Zorro, Blow, A Beautiful Mind, Saw

/50/25

Johnny

Zodiac, Moon, Sweeney Todd, Zombieland, Assassination of Jesse James

Troy, The Fall, Coach Carter 

/50/15-2 (Cache, Howl)

I just try to rate em all fair and then organize it from the starters, with the bench considered. If your bench is deep that means something, if your starters are that solid, that makes up for a weak bench. I think this makes more sense than just ranking genres we squeezed movies into anyways.

 

[mronegative]

So this was how I planned on voting. The idea is I figure what I think were your best 5 movies and rate those out of 10 each, and then your next movies out of 5 each. I note whatever I don't really remember or haven't seen, but I'm not especially knocking you down for it.

I don't think ranking individual movies works.

JRP

A History of Violence, V for Vendetta, Training Day, Gladiator, District 9

Gone Baby Gone, The Fighter, Wedding Crashers, Shrek

/50/20-1 (Appalloosa)

JPZ

No Country For Old Men, Finding Nemo, American Gangster, Amelie, Black Swan

Remember the Titans, 127 Hours, The Hurt Locker, Munich, Star Trek

/50/25

Dirk

City of God, LOTR: Return of the King, Wall-E, The Royal Tenenbaums, Serenity

Snatch, Hotel Rwanda 

/50/10-3 (The Damn United, Brokeback Mountain, The Lives of Others)

Illmatic

Amores Perros, The Prestige, Infernal Affairs, 3:10 to Yuma, Lost in Translation

Sideways, Battle Royale, Y Tu Mama Tambien, Primer, Hook: Legend of Demetrious

/50/25

Kool

Oldboy, The Departed, Donnie Darko, True Grit, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

Anchorman, Talladega Nights, Pineapple Express, The Aviator, Benajamin Button

/50/25

Shaun

The Wrestler, Cast Away, UP, Gangs of New York, Knocked Up

Into the Wild, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, I Am Legend, Machete, Buried

/50/25

Prime

The Social Network, Kill Bill Vol. 1, American Psycho, United 93, Friday Night Lights

Superbad, Iron Man, Tropic Thunder, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Unbreakable

/50/25

Kev

Kill Bill, Vol. 2, Requiem For A Dream, 28 Days Later, Adaptation, Almost Famous

The King's Speech, Shutter Island, The Three Burials Melquiades Estrada

/50/15-2 (Downfall, Sugar)

CP

Inglourious Basterds, Inception, Batman Begins, Borat, Sin City

The Town, Crash, American Outlaws, Signs, The Blind Side

/50/25

Noskey

Let the Right One In, Pan's Labyrinth, The Pianist, , Mystic River, Toy Story 3

In Bruges, Hot Fuzz, Kung Fu Hustle, Million Dollar Baby

/50/20-1 (Un Prophete)

MrO

There Will Be Blood, Children of Men, Bourne Ultimatum, Michael Clayton, Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang

Shaun of the Dead, Black Hawk Down, The 25th Hour, Black Dynamite, Winning Time

/50/25

LTB

Eternal Sunshine, Memento, Casino Royale, Slumdog Millionaire, Catch Me If You Can

Ocean's 11, (500) Days of Summer, Up in the Air, Love & Basketball, Shanghai Noon

/50/25

Venom

The Dark Knight, Traffic, 40 Year Old Virgin, Cinderella Man, The Book of Eli

The Hangover, The Mask of Zorro, Blow, A Beautiful Mind, Saw

/50/25

Johnny

Zodiac, Moon, Sweeney Todd, Zombieland, Assassination of Jesse James

Troy, The Fall, Coach Carter 

/50/15-2 (Cache, Howl)

I just try to rate em all fair and then organize it from the starters, with the bench considered. If your bench is deep that means something, if your starters are that solid, that makes up for a weak bench. I think this makes more sense than just ranking genres we squeezed movies into anyways.

 

[big j 33]

Adaptation getting 3 points is insane, as is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind being ranked as one of the worst films.

I'm placing importance on genres, but after seeing that breakdown a numbers system like that is flawed. For the record I'll consider a tier system similar to Osh Kosh Bosh, but that won't be the only way I make my rankings, I'll look at the whole list.

 

[big j 33]

Adaptation getting 3 points is insane, as is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind being ranked as one of the worst films.

I'm placing importance on genres, but after seeing that breakdown a numbers system like that is flawed. For the record I'll consider a tier system similar to Osh Kosh Bosh, but that won't be the only way I make my rankings, I'll look at the whole list.

 

[japanair21]

No, I hadn't seen all the films, but I did a little research on each and saw what the general consensus on the film was.

I've seen Eternal Sunshine. As well as every single movie on your list. It's a romance/drama before anything else to me. It has elements of science fiction, sure. But to call it science fiction? I don't buy it. Sorry. District 9 is science fiction. MOON is science fiction.

I did my list on personal preference for each movie, I really don't care if you dislike it.

And yeah, Casino Royale WAS overrated. Saying that it's the best Bond movie of the decade isn't saying much.

Each of those movies I felt was a lot better than Casino Royale. If you want to question about Casino Royale, please do. I don't see any of those films being inferior to Casino Royale, a cut and dry action film.

I'm placing importance on genres, but after seeing that breakdown a numbers system like that is flawed. For the record I'll consider a tier system similar to Osh Kosh Bosh, but that won't be the only way I make my rankings, I'll look at the whole list.


Yeah, it really is rather difficult. Giving movies like The Aviator a 7 when it's a great film really is kind of tough.

 

[japanair21]

No, I hadn't seen all the films, but I did a little research on each and saw what the general consensus on the film was.

I've seen Eternal Sunshine. As well as every single movie on your list. It's a romance/drama before anything else to me. It has elements of science fiction, sure. But to call it science fiction? I don't buy it. Sorry. District 9 is science fiction. MOON is science fiction.

I did my list on personal preference for each movie, I really don't care if you dislike it.

And yeah, Casino Royale WAS overrated. Saying that it's the best Bond movie of the decade isn't saying much.

Each of those movies I felt was a lot better than Casino Royale. If you want to question about Casino Royale, please do. I don't see any of those films being inferior to Casino Royale, a cut and dry action film.

I'm placing importance on genres, but after seeing that breakdown a numbers system like that is flawed. For the record I'll consider a tier system similar to Osh Kosh Bosh, but that won't be the only way I make my rankings, I'll look at the whole list.


Yeah, it really is rather difficult. Giving movies like The Aviator a 7 when it's a great film really is kind of tough.

 

[koolbarbone]

It should not be the judge's place to determine how good a film is relative to how well it fits into its genre. If it makes it into a genre category it should be in as a full member, not penalized for it.

 

[koolbarbone]

It should not be the judge's place to determine how good a film is relative to how well it fits into its genre. If it makes it into a genre category it should be in as a full member, not penalized for it.

 

[licensed to ball]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

No, I hadn't seen all the films, but I did a little research on each and saw what the general consensus on the film was.

I've seen Eternal Sunshine. As well as every single movie on your list. It's a romance/drama before anything else to me. It has elements of science fiction, sure. But to call it science fiction? I don't buy it. Sorry. District 9 is science fiction. MOON is science fiction.

I did my list on personal preference for each movie, I really don't care if you dislike it.

And yeah, Casino Royale WAS overrated. Saying that it's the best Bond movie of the decade isn't saying much.

Each of those movies I felt was a lot better than Casino Royale. If you want to question about Casino Royale, please do. I don't see any of those films being inferior to Casino Royale, a cut and dry action film.

I'm placing importance on genres, but after seeing that breakdown a numbers system like that is flawed. For the record I'll consider a tier system similar to Osh Kosh Bosh, but that won't be the only way I make my rankings, I'll look at the whole list.

Yeah, it really is rather difficult. Giving movies like The Aviator a 7 when it's a great film really is kind of tough.


Dude, its okay...i get it, not everyones gonna like my movies. But the way you gave out points was rediculous, thats all i was saying. You literally put Eternal Sunshine as one of the worst films in the draft... thats what 1 point means. Do you not realize how well respected that movie is, sci/fi or not? Thats all im saying. Im last on your list, i get it...whatever im not gonna cry about it

, but the way you came up with your list made absolutely no sense.  

 

[licensed to ball]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

No, I hadn't seen all the films, but I did a little research on each and saw what the general consensus on the film was.

I've seen Eternal Sunshine. As well as every single movie on your list. It's a romance/drama before anything else to me. It has elements of science fiction, sure. But to call it science fiction? I don't buy it. Sorry. District 9 is science fiction. MOON is science fiction.

I did my list on personal preference for each movie, I really don't care if you dislike it.

And yeah, Casino Royale WAS overrated. Saying that it's the best Bond movie of the decade isn't saying much.

Each of those movies I felt was a lot better than Casino Royale. If you want to question about Casino Royale, please do. I don't see any of those films being inferior to Casino Royale, a cut and dry action film.

I'm placing importance on genres, but after seeing that breakdown a numbers system like that is flawed. For the record I'll consider a tier system similar to Osh Kosh Bosh, but that won't be the only way I make my rankings, I'll look at the whole list.

Yeah, it really is rather difficult. Giving movies like The Aviator a 7 when it's a great film really is kind of tough.


Dude, its okay...i get it, not everyones gonna like my movies. But the way you gave out points was rediculous, thats all i was saying. You literally put Eternal Sunshine as one of the worst films in the draft... thats what 1 point means. Do you not realize how well respected that movie is, sci/fi or not? Thats all im saying. Im last on your list, i get it...whatever im not gonna cry about it

, but the way you came up with your list made absolutely no sense.  

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

No, I hadn't seen all the films, but I did a little research on each and saw what the general consensus on the film was.

I've seen Eternal Sunshine. As well as every single movie on your list. It's a romance/drama before anything else to me. It has elements of science fiction, sure. But to call it science fiction? I don't buy it. Sorry. District 9 is science fiction. MOON is science fiction.

See, we're going on what it's classified as so yeah, you should probably do the same.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

No, I hadn't seen all the films, but I did a little research on each and saw what the general consensus on the film was.

I've seen Eternal Sunshine. As well as every single movie on your list. It's a romance/drama before anything else to me. It has elements of science fiction, sure. But to call it science fiction? I don't buy it. Sorry. District 9 is science fiction. MOON is science fiction.

See, we're going on what it's classified as so yeah, you should probably do the same.

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

It should not be the judge's place to determine how good a film is relative to how well it fits into its genre. If it makes it into a genre category it should be in as a full member, not penalized for it.

So Inception can be in horror and Cast Away can be in Comedy and it's alright?

I'm sorry, I just don't see Eternal Sunshine as a Science Fiction film.

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

It should not be the judge's place to determine how good a film is relative to how well it fits into its genre. If it makes it into a genre category it should be in as a full member, not penalized for it.

So Inception can be in horror and Cast Away can be in Comedy and it's alright?

I'm sorry, I just don't see Eternal Sunshine as a Science Fiction film.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

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[h1]Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind(2004)[/h1]

  108 min  -  Drama | Romance | Sci-Fi  -  19 March 2004(USA)

 

[johnnyredstorm]

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[h1]Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind(2004)[/h1]

  108 min  -  Drama | Romance | Sci-Fi  -  19 March 2004(USA)

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm


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I don't see science fiction anywhere on there, nor horror, clearly two genres it'd fit into.

The only reason it says science fiction is because there are themes of it in there. Like Zombieland with horror. Eternal Sunshine is a drama. And at that, a pretentious drama. I didn't like it at all. Maybe if it were under drama I could give it a few more points, but I wasn't a fan of the film. If you hadn't guessed, I'm not a fan of Kaufman's work. You can't force someone to like a movie just because everyone else does. I just didn't like the movie.