Only 47% Percent Of African American Males Graduate Highschool

[mytmouse76]

Originally Posted by Al Audi

NAKO if you aint black you got no reason to put your 2 cents in

i don't think thats fair...granted its focused on black men but this is a problem the whole country should be held responsible for b/c it wasn't just black people the delegated the money to the schools or made decisions that effected these kids...

plus i think he is black

black people always try to keep our problems to ourselves and that really hasn't gotten us to far in this education situation

now the lack of black fathers is probably something that only black people can fix

 

[al audi]

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by Al Audi

NAKO if you aint black you got no reason to put your 2 cents in

Because ONLY Black people are able to see the problems in communities and the educational system or point out how they affect Black youth?  Really?

i thought you would get the sarcasm right away.

man i kid

 

[al audi]

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by Al Audi

NAKO if you aint black you got no reason to put your 2 cents in

Because ONLY Black people are able to see the problems in communities and the educational system or point out how they affect Black youth?  Really?

i thought you would get the sarcasm right away.

man i kid

 

[essential1]

I'm not black.... So is my opinion not relevant here?

 

[essential1]

I'm not black.... So is my opinion not relevant here?

 

[eddiehouse5]

Sooooooooooo, 53% of Black males don't graduate, so you say it all starts at home...but 75% of us grew up in single parent homes.

It can't start at home if no one is there. So where does it start? Does it ever start? Are Black people just doomed?

 

[essential1]

I'm not black.... So is my opinion not relevant here?

 

[eddiehouse5]

Sooooooooooo, 53% of Black males don't graduate, so you say it all starts at home...but 75% of us grew up in single parent homes.

It can't start at home if no one is there. So where does it start? Does it ever start? Are Black people just doomed?

 

[essential1]

I'm not black.... So is my opinion not relevant here?

 

[orenthaljames]

I guess they forgot to factor in the 97.4% of black dudes who have pretty boy swag

-The Juice

 

[orenthaljames]

I guess they forgot to factor in the 97.4% of black dudes who have pretty boy swag

-The Juice

 

[bijald0331]

^According to Nat Turner, yes. Yes, I'm still mad about that

 

[essential1]

I'm not black.... So is my opinion not relevant here?

 

[essential1]

I'm not black.... So is my opinion not relevant here?

 

[bijald0331]

^According to Nat Turner, yes. Yes, I'm still mad about that

 

[antonlavey]

You know what's ironic about these black race threads. The first people to say open your eyes to the effects of institutional and evironmental racism in America are always the first ones to be like "You can't be posting negative stats about how black people are struggling. Especially if you not black". We can't solve these issues if we continue to brush them under the rug.


The denial in the black community is profound.

 

[letitshine24]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

Originally Posted by LetItShine24

ehh don't feel bad or not surprised. Everyone has their own responsibility to do well. Everyone has the opportunity to do great things

i hate when people say this...

do some of you realize there are kids who go to school just to eat? and i'm not just talking black kids. Look at the Wire, Wallace was taking care of his younger siblings getting them to school, Mike the same thing. Dookie or whatever didnt have @+@*.  Thats the most extreme but there are many kids living like that.

I watched a doc. on some minning town in I think WV and it was a town full of white people but there stories were the same.  Kids taking care of their siblings. Going to school just to get the free/reduce breakfast and lunch.  Of course there are kids who make it out of those situations and kudos to them but I also think its kinda cold hearted to just say "if x can do it so can y".

I volunteer out here at the B&GC and some of these kids just get so angry and frustrated when you ask them to read a sentence b/c they can't read well and they get picked on for it. Then they are diagnosed with anger problems and other things when really from what I've seen they just need someone to sit down and take their time with them. 

To say a CHILD has their own repsonsibility to do well is just stupid IMO.  Most (not all) of us got where we are cuz we had some type of support system.  Some kids don't have that PROPER support system and they fall through the cracks and thats just really sad.

I never knew a high school student was considered a child. A high school student might as well be an adult. High School is one of the easiest things I have ever accomplished and this is coming from a student who might of showed up 20 times during the course of his senior year. I passed however, with a low gpa ( 2.9) of course. High school students have all the resources they need to pass class. It is solely up to them if they want to pass or not.

 

[antonlavey]

You know what's ironic about these black race threads. The first people to say open your eyes to the effects of institutional and evironmental racism in America are always the first ones to be like "You can't be posting negative stats about how black people are struggling. Especially if you not black". We can't solve these issues if we continue to brush them under the rug.


The denial in the black community is profound.

 

[letitshine24]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

Originally Posted by LetItShine24

ehh don't feel bad or not surprised. Everyone has their own responsibility to do well. Everyone has the opportunity to do great things

i hate when people say this...

do some of you realize there are kids who go to school just to eat? and i'm not just talking black kids. Look at the Wire, Wallace was taking care of his younger siblings getting them to school, Mike the same thing. Dookie or whatever didnt have @+@*.  Thats the most extreme but there are many kids living like that.

I watched a doc. on some minning town in I think WV and it was a town full of white people but there stories were the same.  Kids taking care of their siblings. Going to school just to get the free/reduce breakfast and lunch.  Of course there are kids who make it out of those situations and kudos to them but I also think its kinda cold hearted to just say "if x can do it so can y".

I volunteer out here at the B&GC and some of these kids just get so angry and frustrated when you ask them to read a sentence b/c they can't read well and they get picked on for it. Then they are diagnosed with anger problems and other things when really from what I've seen they just need someone to sit down and take their time with them. 

To say a CHILD has their own repsonsibility to do well is just stupid IMO.  Most (not all) of us got where we are cuz we had some type of support system.  Some kids don't have that PROPER support system and they fall through the cracks and thats just really sad.

I never knew a high school student was considered a child. A high school student might as well be an adult. High School is one of the easiest things I have ever accomplished and this is coming from a student who might of showed up 20 times during the course of his senior year. I passed however, with a low gpa ( 2.9) of course. High school students have all the resources they need to pass class. It is solely up to them if they want to pass or not.

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by Al Audi

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by Al Audi

NAKO if you aint black you got no reason to put your 2 cents in

Because ONLY Black people are able to see the problems in communities and the educational system or point out how they affect Black youth?  Really?

i thought you would get the sarcasm right away.

man i kid

I wasn't sure if you were joking so I went with the safe defensive answer.

GucciMane I'm Black, Nigerian born, and New York City area raised.  I just think it's stupid to try to claim an exclusive right to thinking about a problem that every single person in this country should be concerned about.

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by Al Audi

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by Al Audi

NAKO if you aint black you got no reason to put your 2 cents in

Because ONLY Black people are able to see the problems in communities and the educational system or point out how they affect Black youth?  Really?

i thought you would get the sarcasm right away.

man i kid

I wasn't sure if you were joking so I went with the safe defensive answer.

GucciMane I'm Black, Nigerian born, and New York City area raised.  I just think it's stupid to try to claim an exclusive right to thinking about a problem that every single person in this country should be concerned about.

 

[vq35dett]

I'm an 8th grade teacher in a very large urban school district and, while I always take statistics with a grain of salt, the overall state of education in this country sucks and a ton of kids are dropping out or aren't finishing in time.  Even if a lot of these kids graduate, they aren't prepared for college (whether they get in or not).  A high school diploma in this country really isn't doing as much as it used to do.  We need to work harder to get kids into (and OUT OF) college.  It's a very very long road.

Education starts at home though.  Parents have to work hard and do everything they can to ensure that their children are getting everything they can out of school.  Honestly, my school is labeled as high needs and persistently dangerous, but all of the teachers come to work everyday and try very hard to do a good job.  The things we must overcome at school truly prevent most of the children from learning at the same rate as students in "better" schools.  It starts at home, with discipline, respect, and a sense that education is truly the key to their dreams...

To those who think that kids, regardless of teachers/parents/whatever, have what they need in order to be successful...

Yes and no.  In theory, yes, they have food and they have 7 hours or so to try to learn something.  Certain students can overcome and do well on their own.  Unfortunately, most can't.  Some of our high schools are straight up war zones.  Airport security at the door.  Bars over windows.  Cops walking the halls.  That's not school...

 

[vq35dett]

I'm an 8th grade teacher in a very large urban school district and, while I always take statistics with a grain of salt, the overall state of education in this country sucks and a ton of kids are dropping out or aren't finishing in time.  Even if a lot of these kids graduate, they aren't prepared for college (whether they get in or not).  A high school diploma in this country really isn't doing as much as it used to do.  We need to work harder to get kids into (and OUT OF) college.  It's a very very long road.

Education starts at home though.  Parents have to work hard and do everything they can to ensure that their children are getting everything they can out of school.  Honestly, my school is labeled as high needs and persistently dangerous, but all of the teachers come to work everyday and try very hard to do a good job.  The things we must overcome at school truly prevent most of the children from learning at the same rate as students in "better" schools.  It starts at home, with discipline, respect, and a sense that education is truly the key to their dreams...

To those who think that kids, regardless of teachers/parents/whatever, have what they need in order to be successful...

Yes and no.  In theory, yes, they have food and they have 7 hours or so to try to learn something.  Certain students can overcome and do well on their own.  Unfortunately, most can't.  Some of our high schools are straight up war zones.  Airport security at the door.  Bars over windows.  Cops walking the halls.  That's not school...

 

[datznasty]

I've always been interested in the affect on overpopulation with things like crime, graduation rates, unemployment, and the like. It's no secret the vast majority of cities with all these problems are the biggest. I gave my anecdotal account of how my experiences seem to be so much different and better than what these studies project as "average," yet going through my life I never really felt that privileged or out of the ordinary. I went to various schools just on military bases and surrounding towns, never anything extravagant. But to read 72% of black males in New York City don't graduate is mindboggling. I guarantee over 90% of my 9th grade class graduated on time.

Black people are just going to continue to fall worse and worse though because despite having a million times more opportunity than 2-3 generations ago, there's not nearly the same motivation, leadership, or desire to improve. Like really, pull your pants up, stop $#@#%%@ everything with a vagina that consents (and certainly the ones that don't), act like you have some sense, and be productive to society; doesn't seem hard. A lot of that disgenic, anti productive to being successful type behavior I took part in too when I was young, but we all just grew out of it. Dudes nowadays don't seem to grow out of it.

 

[datznasty]

I've always been interested in the affect on overpopulation with things like crime, graduation rates, unemployment, and the like. It's no secret the vast majority of cities with all these problems are the biggest. I gave my anecdotal account of how my experiences seem to be so much different and better than what these studies project as "average," yet going through my life I never really felt that privileged or out of the ordinary. I went to various schools just on military bases and surrounding towns, never anything extravagant. But to read 72% of black males in New York City don't graduate is mindboggling. I guarantee over 90% of my 9th grade class graduated on time.

Black people are just going to continue to fall worse and worse though because despite having a million times more opportunity than 2-3 generations ago, there's not nearly the same motivation, leadership, or desire to improve. Like really, pull your pants up, stop $#@#%%@ everything with a vagina that consents (and certainly the ones that don't), act like you have some sense, and be productive to society; doesn't seem hard. A lot of that disgenic, anti productive to being successful type behavior I took part in too when I was young, but we all just grew out of it. Dudes nowadays don't seem to grow out of it.