**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**

[Flamboyant_Luv23]

Wtf are you even saying. So theyhavent won chips prior to KD?

Yes KD ultimately makes them lock, but let's not act like they cant win without KD. They still have a chance.

im saying they are not as dominant without KD, thought that was obvious but do carry on with your agenda.

 

[freeze]

I really think bucks are going to win this series but I'm hoping the raptors take it. Would love to see kawhi win a title. I don't care Bout giannis..

Explain the the part in bold .

How tho?

 

[evansst]

Just say ya'll hate the lightskin ******.
I would respect that more than posting dumb stats and regurgitating LeJump narratives.

 

[Deleted member 170883]

im shocked at MIL being a damn near guaranteed W against a KDless GS team in here

bucks aint winning ****. warriors in 6

 

[freeze]

hope kd doesn’t come back this postseason. want to see how long this fairytale goes for the warriors.

if they win the chip, he out the clique. They'll tell him the parade on a wednesday, it's really tuesday doh.

 

[Flamboyant_Luv23]

cause ur a steph hater

i dont hate steph. i hate poor logic.

 

[P C H]

Here’s the reality people aren’t fully grasping.

The league has caught up to the warriors. The margin for error is slim as it’s ever been for them. Kevin Durant increases that margin for error, allows them to play a different way if need be, and they’re the favorites with him playing.

Without him playing, they’re still the slight favorites. For these reasons:

-Chemistry
-Coaching
-Experience
-They have the best player going forward in every series in Steph
-They have the best defender going forward in every series in draymond
-They have Klay who can catch fire at any moment
-They’ve done it before


That’s the reality right now. And that’s how this **** is going to play out.

Precisely, which is why outright saying the warriors DONT NEED Kevin Durant is a wild hill to die on in 2019.

Maybe in 2017, but in May of 2019? He's more than a luxury. Can they get it done without him? Sure, but they'd be much closer to the field with him, and the margin for error would be much smaller. It'd be tough getting through the west for 82 games plus playoffs w/o him. Not to say they can't. We're kind of saying the same thing.

I feel the same way about Steph too. W/o Steph it'd be hard in 2019 to get all the way to the chip w/o him. They need them both. It's really no different than say the Rockets, who need the 18' version of CP3, (Steph) Harden, (KD) Eric Gordon (Klay) to win it all.

Saying the Dubs can definitively win it all w/o KD is a discredit to how great KD is

 

[P C H]

is kawhi a better defender than dray?

He's not

 

[keko jones]

im saying they are not as dominant without KD, thought that was obvious but do carry on with your agenda.

They ate though ... I guess prior to KD they didnt set any records.

They arent more dominant with KD either. They just have an extra dude that can take games over, but they lose on better ball movement.

 

[freeze]

He didn’t play well in the rockets series last season tho. The production just gets shifted. The series changed when they put the ball in Steph’s hands....went away from KD ISO’s and slipped the screens, moved the ball.

You forgot Kerr pulling KD aside....the rockets do a great job at switching and baiting KD to iso mismatches.



Then this happened.

that series was probably one of the first where the warriors discovered the relocation shot for curry. Most unstoppable play in the L. Requires the defender to be too disciplined and for the help to be on a string. Any error in the chain, equals a wide open jumper, every single time.

 

[evansst]

They were supposed to lose. 4 all stars

Guaranteed when KD went down that WAS NOT what was said.

Goalposts.

Also, they only had two all stars this year and "no bench."

Since we counting former all star appearances now, lets add former all star competition trophy winners, and other accolades to really see who's team is the most stacked!

 

[P C H]

**** looking mighty familiar, in the most critical moments, the last few games...

Fools were throwing dirt over the grave the moment KD went down. Declared it as fact they won't win the series without him, had that Barkley energy.

Goalposts and all that got completely shifted afterwards.

They've been without KD in the playoffs for 5 quarters against the Rockets and 1 game against the Blazers, who many predicted wouldn't even make the playoffs this season. Hardly enough to come to the conclusion that they'd be just as good if not better w/o him.

You are right people (myself included) thought the Rockets would win games 6&7 w/o KD, credit the warriors for winning game 6. But extrapolating that to them not needing him is wild.

 

[P C H]

that series was probably one of the first where the warriors discovered the relocation shot for curry.

Nahhhh freeze they been doing that since like the first MVP year

 

[blastercombo]

1-1 without kd
2-0 with Kd

50% or 100%.

Oh look the number game again. Ok here’s one, KD is 0-11 in chips without GS. GS is now 3-0 without KD in the playing. Do you want more numbers?

 

[keko jones]

why do you guys keep doing this?

im a gay man, what’s the big deal?

Dont pay any minds to morons man.

No big deal at all, you're just another NTer like the rest of us.

 

[evansst]

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Zion and Julius Randal

Please don't bring that back up

 

[niceshoes247]

 

[MVP]

So they should definitely be able to beat whomever comes out of 3 East without KD according to y'all's logic? Hopefully we'll get to see it.

 

[freeze]

Nahhhh freeze they been doing that since like the first MVP year

nooo bro. before it was all screen and roll stuff or series of screens. they werent having curry pass the ball to seemingly be out of the play to relocate to a move favorable position, as a play. IF it happened before, it was broken plays that worked out. It wasnt in their playbook before. Kelenna Azibuke mentioned it on their telecast not too long ago.

 

[freeze]

bron light been dimming ever since. Should've been humble.

 

[niceshoes247]

bron light been dimming ever sense. Should've been humble.

F being humble in the jungle

 

[evansst]

 

[dman14]

is kawhi a better defender than dray?

kawhi is a better on ball defender and outside in the perimeter but dray really anchors a team's defense

 

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