Puffy + Jimmy Henchman implicated in Tupac Quad Studio Shooting....

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Nearly 15 years after Tupac Shakur was pistol-whipped, shot five times and left for dead outside a New York recording studio, new evidence has surfacedimplicating two associates of entertainment mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs for orchestrating the rap icon's ambush, AllHipHop.com has learned.

In an upcoming article written by Chuck Phillips on the latest developments, the Los Angeles Times claims that Combs was notified in advance that the trap forShakur had been laid, according to sources familiar with the incident.

"Tupac was mostly right about what he wrote about [in his songs]," author Chuck Phillips told AllHipHop.com, although he admitted Shakur "had acouple of things wrong" in regard to Bad Boy's possible role in the shooting.

The article claims that Combs was present in the Quad Recording Studio with at least two dozen Bad Boy Records associates when the assault took place 10 floorsbelow, in the lobby.

"Tupac's shooting at the Quad was really catalyst for everything that happened afterwards including his own death and including the death ofBiggie," Phillips said. "It started the whole thing off and if you lay it out in a timeline which I do, you can just see; it's obvious and kindof sad for two guys to be this talented. I ended up with a much larger story than I imagined."

Sources familiar with the incident state that James "Jimmy" Sabatino and Czar Entertainment CEO Jimmy "Henchmen" Rosemond were among thosethat Combs met on the night in question.

Sabatino, the son of a reputed captain in the Colombo crime family, reportedly told Combs personally that Shakur would be attacked at Quad Recording Studio.

Rosemond, who people speculate paid Shakur back for being slighted over prior agreements, is also said to have formed a close relationship with Combs followingthe attack.

"One of the people involved in what happened to Tupac has family associated with the mob. It wasn't by them; it didn't have anything to do withthe mob," Phillips continued. "This person was at Quad studios that night, and this person knew Puffy and Biggie and Jimmy Henchmen and Haitian Jack.A white Italian guy; he's now in jail. He's involved in this and frankly I never knew anything about this situation."

Soon after Shakur's 1994 assault, sources claim that Sabatino allegedly introduced Combs to mobsters and escorted the music executive to mobbed-upnightclubs in New York and Miami after he was welcomed into Combs' inner circle.

Combs reportedly invited Sabatino on his 1997 No Way Out tour, where the alleged mob associate used fake credit cards to charge up hundreds of thousands ofdollars in bills for posh hotel suites, limousines and parties allegedly on behalf of the Bad Boy entourage.

Sabatino's relationship with Combs allegedly continued as he worked with the mogul's Bad Boy Records until his 1998 arrest in London.

Sabatino was later extradited to the United States, where he was convicted and jailed.

He is currently serving 12 years in a federal penitentiary in Pennsylvania for racketeering and wire fraud.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Sabatino maintained a presence at Bad Boy by financing a recording made by Shakur's musical rival, Christopher"The Notorious B.I.G." Wallace, that was released after the East Coast rapper's murder in 1997.

The implications are the latest in a series of events surrounding the murder Shakur, who was shot to death in 1996 in Las Vegas, and Wallace, who was slain thefollowing year after leaving a party in Los Angeles.

Phillips admits he came across the new details surrounding the Quad Recording Studios shooting while investigating the still-unsolved murder of Wallace in NewYork.

Upon following up on leads, the writer claims he uncovered FBI records to support what he found, as well as interviewing key people with ties to the incident.

Conspiracy theories surrounding the Quad Recording Studio shooting have run rampant.

While some believe Wallace and Combs set up Shakur at the venue, others maintain the pair had nothing to do with the shooting, but had prior knowledge thatShakur was going to be robbed.

"I don't believe that Biggie and Puffy set Tupac up [to be shot]," Phillips said. "According to these people I have interviewed andaccording to these documents, they knew about it," he said. "But they didn't know they were going to get shot. They knew he was going to get beatup. Then it kind of went haywire when it all happened."

In addition to the new information, Phillips' story uncovers an ongoing New York federal grand jury that is currently investigating a series of unsolvedHip-Hop and rap-related crimes, including the 1994 Quad assault.

As recently as a month ago, interviews have been conducted surrounding a number of open cases.

Those interested in obtaining new information on the Quad Recording Studio shooting will be able to examine photo galleries, copies of confidential documentsrelated to the shootings.

An interactive timeline as well as audio of lyrics and videos from Shakur and Wallace will also be featured when Phillip's story on the incident becomesavailable Monday (March 17) on the L.A. Times website or by visiting http://www.latimes.com/tupac

Interestingly, the case has ties to the murder of Jason "Jam Master Jay" Mizell as well.

One of the men present when Shakur was shot, Randy "Stretch" Walker, was later gunned down in Queens, New York on November 30, 1995, exactly one dayto date of the Quad shooting.

Sources have long stated that Walker's alleged murderer, Ronald "Tinard" Washington, was also one of the men suspected of acting as a lookoutwhen Jam Master Jay was gunned down on October 30, 2002.
 
Chuck Phillips gets information from unreliable sources . . . I will say 95% if this info is true . . . I can fill in SOME of the gaps . . . From storiesI've read and heard with my own ears . . .

As far as the 2Pac Quad Studios shooting, 2Pac was PERSONALLY called by Jimmy Henchmen to come and do a feature for a song his artist Lil Shawn (who was laterlocked up) was goin to do, when 2Pac arrived he, Stretch and another man were laid down and basically robbed, 2Pac attempted to pull out his own piece, andactually wounded himself, and that prompted the robbers to shoot him . . . Anyone that's robbed someone or has been robbed knows its a real tensesituation.

Stories vary depending on what book you read, or who you know but some say Pac then went into the studio where Junior Mafia was recording and asked for aciggerette and refused medical attention, all this after allegedly being shot in the nut, and head?? Kind of weird . . .

BIG visited Pac in the hospital, that's a fact that NOone has ever, and possibly will EVER mention. But after being left for dead professionally, and beingbetrayed by Jimmy Henchmen who he considered a friend, and Hatian Jack, who 2Pac was shadowing in order to perfect his role in Above The Rim, he was forced tosign yet another awful record deal on a apeice of tissue that brokered his deal with Death Row records . . .

It is a fact that BIG had no noticable involvement in either shooting, but in a way with Quad Studios it may have been avoidable with a lil rapport betweenDiddy, BIG, Lil Shawn, and Jimmy Henchmen . . .

Suge is behind both Pac and BIGs murders . . . I aint gonna get into that, but its good to finally see the police FINALLY do some work towards investigating acrime that involved a hip hop artist . . . But why not go after Suge for BOTH murders?? True this was a catalyst for the whole fued . . . But why not interviewthe Source employee who was backstage when Suge and BIG had a conversation that could've changed the WHOLE landscape of urban music??
 
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whatever happened to Lil Shawn anyway?? Hes a free man isn't he?? Hope he's gettin money, cause Jimmy Henchmen is
 
I been knew this. (no brag) everyone over here new pac was telling the truth when he said puffy and big set him up....

Pac is the realest. Jimmy and the goons murked his boy and hit pac 5 times. 1 in the back of the head.(1 in the groin too) They shook, Pac got up dusted itoff, took the elevator upstairs and found big and puff chillin in a room. He entered the room sat down and lit up a cigar.

He said Puff was freaking the #%*% out, like he had just seen a ghost.

Everyone know Jimmy shot pac the first time. Its fact. "I know Jimmy Henchman the real Jimmy Henchman" Jimmy need a movie made after him, son shotpac, used to stick up doods with the real 50 cent, shot up yayos mammas house 2wice. Dood is everythign these rappers rap about.

*edit* Puff didnt have pull like that, BIG did...but Puff had the money to put on pacs head tho. Dont be fooled Puff never/still doesnt hold weight in thestreet.
 
Originally Posted by Starvin Harlem

Chuck Phillips gets information from unreliable sources . . . I will say 95% if this info is true . . . I can fill in SOME of the gaps . . . From stories I've read and heard with my own ears . . .

As far as the 2Pac Quad Studios shooting, 2Pac was PERSONALLY called by Jimmy Henchmen to come and do a feature for a song his artist Lil Shawn (who was later locked up) was goin to do, when 2Pac arrived he, Stretch and another man were laid down and basically robbed, 2Pac attempted to pull out his own piece, and actually wounded himself, and that prompted the robbers to shoot him . . . Anyone that's robbed someone or has been robbed knows its a real tense situation.

Stories vary depending on what book you read, or who you know but some say Pac then went into the studio where Junior Mafia was recording and asked for a ciggerette and refused medical attention, all this after allegedly being shot in the nut, and head?? Kind of weird . . .

BIG visited Pac in the hospital, that's a fact that NOone has ever, and possibly will EVER mention. But after being left for dead professionally, and being betrayed by Jimmy Henchmen who he considered a friend, and Hatian Jack, who 2Pac was shadowing in order to perfect his role in Above The Rim, he was forced to sign yet another awful record deal on a apeice of tissue that brokered his deal with Death Row records . . .

It is a fact that BIG had no noticable involvement in either shooting, but in a way with Quad Studios it may have been avoidable with a lil rapport between Diddy, BIG, Lil Shawn, and Jimmy Henchmen . . .

Suge is behind both Pac and BIGs murders . . . I aint gonna get into that, but its good to finally see the police FINALLY do some work towards investigating a crime that involved a hip hop artist . . . But why not go after Suge for BOTH murders?? True this was a catalyst for the whole fued . . . But why not interview the Source employee who was backstage when Suge and BIG had a conversation that could've changed the WHOLE landscape of urban music??


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And yeah.....Jimmy Henchmen is as thorough as they come....
 
This is what went down right after happend according to pac...

You can clearly hear "Buff" say "hes gone now, we have nothing to worry about" pac knew the whole time it was puff.
BIG and Puff were shook after this happened, puff and big were basically scared for thier lives after this because they knew there was gonna be some kind ofretalliation.

And there was. BIG was murked when he came out here. Puff basically caused BIG to be murked.
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Originally Posted by illphillip

Lil Shawn "Hickey's On Your Chest" is my $+%#!

Talk about a record/artist I had forgot about.


But it is %##!!+ up if Puff knew what was going to happen.
 
Suge is behind both Pac and BIGs murders . . . I aint gonna get into that, but its good to finally see the police FINALLY do some work towards investigating a crime that involved a hip hop artist . . . But why not go after Suge for BOTH murders?? True this was a catalyst for the whole fued . . . But why not interview the Source employee who was backstage when Suge and BIG had a conversation that could've changed the WHOLE landscape of urban music??
This is how Pac died.

Death Row affiliates (Bloods) were at Lakewood Mall in Long Beach. Orlando Anderson and his crew (Crips) rolled up on them, and snatched a chain off one of'em.

Fast forward to that night in Vegas. In the hotel/casino lobby, Pac, Suge and other Death Row affilates were strolling through. Somebody spots OrlandoAnderson, so they press up on him. They proceed to stomp him out. Pac, Suge, Death Row people. They leave.

Security nabs Orlando Anderson, but he's not cooperative. He gets released.

Suge, Pac, the Outlawz, other Death Row people head out to a club. Club 662. Pac rides with Suge (insert that one last picture of Pac before his death andSuge here) and since it's Vegas in the Summer, Pac opts to not wear his vest.

On the strip, Pac is standing up through the sunroof, acting a fool.

Then the white Cadillac pulls up (Orlando Anderson and his crew) and unloads. Pac tries to jump to the backseat, but is still hit. Pac dies like a weeklater.

A couple of months/year later, revenge is extracted, as Orlando Anderson is gunned down in a So. Cal car wash.
 
This is how Pac died.

Death Row affiliates (Bloods) were at Lakewood Mall in Long Beach. Orlando Anderson and his crew (Crips) rolled up on them, and snatched a chain off one of 'em.

Fast forward to that night in Vegas. In the hotel/casino lobby, Pac, Suge and other Death Row affilates were strolling through. Somebody spots Orlando Anderson, so they press up on him. They proceed to stomp him out. Pac, Suge, Death Row people. They leave.

Security nabs Orlando Anderson, but he's not cooperative. He gets released.

Suge, Pac, the Outlawz, other Death Row people head out to a club. Club 662. Pac rides with Suge (insert that one last picture of Pac before his death and Suge here) and since it's Vegas in the Summer, Pac opts to not wear his vest.

On the strip, Pac is standing up through the sunroof, acting a fool.

Then the white Cadillac pulls up (Orlando Anderson and his crew) and unloads. Pac tries to jump to the backseat, but is still it. Pac dies like a week later.

A couple of months/year later, revenge is extracted, as Orlando Anderson is gunned down in a So. Cal car wash.
You have it so wrong......

The whole bloods/crips thing in lakewood was staged. Thats fact. Suge had it planned out way before that night. He payed orlando to run up on homeboi with thedeathrow chain. (he was in on it too, he knew the chain was gonna get took by orlando, he was there the night pac stomped out orlando, and actually pointed himout to pac in the lobby of theMGM) Suge made it look crip vs blood related, when indeed it was him and over money and royalties he owed pac.
 
As for the Big murder, yes, Suge played a role in that. Pac, not so much.
Without Pac, Suge would have no beef with BIG and Puff. So yes pac was actually the foundation of Bigs murder, and Suge was the foreseer.

Bottom line, Puff and Big !+*%+% with the wrong dood.
 
Pac was free after the Makaveli CD (3 CD contract. All Eyez On Me = 2 + Makaveli = 3)

He was starting up his own record label, Euthanasia Records.

Suge did not have Pac killed.

It is true that Suge owed Pac royalites and money, but he didn't have him set up. Especially like that, months in advance. Everything had to goperfectly. Crossing paths in the lobby like that, not getting apprehended by security/police for stomping out the dude, etc etc etc.

There's a MILLION ways to skin a cat.

If you want somebody dead, ok, you do it. What you DON'T do is, put yourself RIGHT THERE, literally inches away from the scene of the crime. Suge couldhave had Pac killed if he wanted to, a million different ways that DID NOT involve him being right there.

Dude coulda got got himself.
 
Pac was free after the Makaveli CD (3 CD contract. All Eyez On Me = 2 + Makaveli = 3)

He was starting up his own record label, Euthanasia Records.

Suge did not have Pac killed.

It is true that Suge owed Pac royalites and money, but he didn't have him set up. Especially like that, months in advance. Everything had to go perfectly. Crossing paths in the lobby like that, not getting apprehended by security/police for stomping out the dude, etc etc etc.

There's a MILLION ways to skin a cat.

If you want somebody dead, ok, you do it. What you DON'T do is, put yourself RIGHT THERE, literally inches away from the scene of the crime. Suge could have had Pac killed if he wanted to, a million different ways that DID NOT involve him being right there.

Dude coulda got got himself.

It doesnt matter that Pac was free after.

He wanted his masters (its also another know fact on at least 2 sepreate occasions pac went to death row studios and tried to physically take his masters andsuge wouldnt let him) and Suge owend him millions. Pac dies with like 7 g's in his bank account. Suge used to buy him cars and jewlery and houses, butnever gave pac him money. Pac was gonna leave regardless, but suge just didnt wanna pay up.

It is true that Suge owed Pac royalites and money, but he didn't have him set up. Especially like that, months in advance.
Your argument is already flawed because you underestimate Suge's intentions. It was the perfect set up and suge is still jail free to thisday.

Orlando Anderson was found in Las Vegas in the MGM lobby with NO TICKET TO THE FIGHT AT ALL. He had a rent a car that was rented from compton and no money inhis pocket. Thats it.

Dont you think its strange the crip from compton who stole the Death row pendant is in las vegas in the MGM the same night pac/death row is there with noticket to the event at all and no moeny in his pocket? And dood who had the chain stolen happend to be there and was able to point Orlando out in the lobby.

Son, its goes waaaay deeper than you think.
It also ties in with the corrupt RAMPART division (also ties in with Biggies murder, but thats a different thread/story) of the LAPD. Suges head of securitywas an ex LAPD officer who was released from the force because he was running corrupt side deals with crips in compton. It was orchastrated months in advance.

Suge was also caught lying about being grazed in the head when pac was hit. The car pulled up to the 7 series on the passenger side and sprayed UNDER thewindow so suge wouldnt be hit. One of the doctors reported suge only had glass lacerations on his head and NOT a bullet grazing.


Thats why real N's on the west dont %+@$ with SUGE they know he set up pac. Snoop has said it himself
 
Why you think BIG made going back to CALI....


Son knew he wasnt safe out here.....but little did he know the entire state of california would ride for pac, bloods, crips, and SA's.

People dont seem to grasp how REAL Pac was.
 
Ok yall are getting your Chuck Phillips on spitting half truthes this is directed towards the comments SkipKicks and Franchise are having . . . Lemme fill inthe gaps and seperate the truth from lies . . .

There was NEVER a run in between Crips and Bloods, there was NEVER a Death Row chain snatched . . . That whole story is fabricated, its about as real as SouljaBoys Bapes . . . OK, what really happened . . .

If you guys remember 2Pac's Hummer was recently auctioned off, they never mentioned how many miles it had on it, or why someone would finally auction a1996 Hummer regardless of its prior owner, the TRUE story is 2Pac NEVER wanted to go to Vegas to begin with, even tho he was a Mike Tyson fan, Bruce Seldom wasterrible and was expected to last no more than 3 rounds . . . Orlando Anderson aka Baby Lane was also present in Vegas that night, as are many Crips andBloods, that's no surprise, LA dudes are in Vegas every other weekend . . . 2Pac's bodyguard is told to retell the robbery story to Pac, he refuses,one of Suge's enterouge members tells the story and points out Orlando Anderson (who was convenietly without anyone from his gang, but managed to findatleast 2 others and a white Cadillac within 2 hours?? That's some fast driving from the South Side of Compton) ANYway, he's pointed out to 2Pac, whowalks over and throws the weakest punch, and Orlandon some how being the hardcore Crip he was had never been punched, and immediatley falls down, Pac is wiskedaway by his bodyguard . . . Meanwhile Suge and ATLEAST 6 of his homies (MOB Piru members, as was 2Pac) stomp him out . . . The only problem is, OrlandoAnderson was about 5'10 165lbs, after being stomped out he doesn't have a spec of blood on his white Dan Marino jersey . . . Even Bruce Seldom had abloody lip from a few punches from Mike Tyson, so tell me how a man being jumped by ATLEAST 6 hardcore, no nonsense street ninjas doesn't have a bloodylip, swolen eye, loose tooth . . . No one helped him, he was alone in the Casino, but he obviously had people in Vegas that he later hooked up with to carryout the hit . . .

Back to the Hummer, 2Pac purchased it no more than 2 months prior to Sept 7th, anyone of you who remember the episode of Rap City back in the summer of 1996with Pac and Joe Clair in his home have seen it . . . Ok so even tho he didn't wanna be in Vegas, he figuired if he'd go and roll thru 662 afterwardshe wanted to catch a few stunts, Suge sugested he ride in his BMW instead, and discouraged 2Pac's bodyguard from being in the vehicle, he instead rode in acar behind him, it is unknown weather he was even armed, even tho he was an ex officer of the law . . .

Suge and Pac are on their way to club 662, Suge is said to have owned it, I don't know maybe he did . . . 662 spelled out MOB on a telephone, and MOBstands for Member Of Blood . . . Pac begain to shout it out on his final studio album Makaveli The 7 Day Theory, most notably on the diss track Against AllOdds, where he promises to "payback Jimmy Henchmen in due time", he proceeds to flat out accuse Jimmy Henchman, King Tut and Hatian Jack of settinghim up . . . He also claims that Diddy was hiring Crips to protect him and his Bad Boy artist when traveling to LA, in a ironic twist of fate, the head of hisCrip Security was Orlando Anderson's uncle (I honestly forget his name) . . .

So instead of enetering the club through the rear entrence, Suge opts to roll through the front, where it was EXTREMELY packed, anyone that's been to Vegasknows what its life before and or after a fight . . . Or ANYnight for that matter (New Yorkers think 42nd street in the summer after a fight at the Garden), asthey approach the already packed venue, it is said that a white Cadillac rolls up next to them and basically unloads on the bottom half of Suge's car, forsome reason he didn't drive away during the process, but he may have a deep appreciation for perdestrians and traffic laws . . . Either way Pac ends upbeing hit 4 times, Suge on the other hand is grazed by a bullet, but its later found that he cut his head on flying glass, no one is sure weather it wasincedental or if he cut himself, what is a fact is he has NO scar, never even got stitches, but he mustve bumped his head because he bent the #%!! out hisfront right rim of his BMW . . .

What I ask is, if your making a right turn why are you in one of the 3 middle lanes?? Is it a coincidence that Orlando Anderson could get atleast 2 others anda gun within 2 hours?? Is it a coincidence that they came to Suge's club 3 deep to kill his most marketable artist?? It was a death mission if you believe%+*@+@%! like that . . . Why would 3 Crips shoot up a car and leave a Blood member in the exact physical state he arrived in Vegas with?? Why are you shootingso low?? Why would you shoot someone on the Vegas strip?? Why leave thousands of witnesses?? Why was Orlando Anderson even in Vegas?? Where'd he get astrap from?? Why does Pac look extremely scared in the picture before his shooting?? Why does Suge look so angry?? Why hasn't the person who took thatpicture been interviewed in the 12 years since?? Where is the photo even from??

The whole murder was for financial gain, Suge owned Pac's masters, Pac had a 2 album deal with Suge, he made 2 albums in ONE year to get out of thatcontract, but before he could he was killed, so you have Suge owning Pac's masters which are probabaly worth the $500 million dollar range these days . . .Who owns them now is unknown, but Suge isn't broke or bankrupt if you believe that, ask Dr Dre who owned his Chronic Masters up until 3 months ago . . .

Why does Orlando Anderson look JUST like Pac with a mini fro?? Who's chain did he snatch?? What Footlocker employee witnessed it?? Why was Orlando Andersonat the SAME Vibe party as BIG and Puff that night in Vegas?? Why did Puffy speak to his uncle?? Why did the 4 girls from Houston videotape rumor end up beingtrue?? Who killed Amir Muhammed's exgirlfriend and her new boyfriend in her home within 2 months of the BIG murder?? Why was David Mack once partners withRafeal Perez?? Why did Rafeal Perez have an affair with the chief if Los Angeles police at the time, Bernard Park's daughter?? Why did Rafeal Perez, SammyMartin and David Mack attend Death Row parties?? Why did Rafeal Perez serve as the key witness in the RAMPART scandle?? Why didn't he testify against DavidMack??

Why didn't Diddy call Biggies mother after the murder?? Why did he fly back to NY that night?? Why did Diddy convince BIG to stay in LA one more night andparty when they were supposed to be in Europe for a promo tour the following week?? Why did BIG's car have no armed or trained secuirty guards?? Why didBIG's SUV have stickers on the rims that said "Think B.I.G."?? Why was Biggie estimated to make almost $300-400 had he not died in LA thatnight?? Why is Diddy's net worth in that neiborhood?? Why was Diddy's biggest hit a dedication song to BIG?? Why did BIG have a clothing line beforeDiddy?? Why did BIG plan on opening a resturant before he died?? Why did Diddy start Sean John and not Brooklyn Mint?? Why did Diddy open up Justins's butnever opened Big Popas resturant that BIG had planned?? Why has Diddy held BIG to the same contract he signed in 93?? Why has BIG released 3 albums since hisdeath?? Why did it take Jay Z to revamp Brooklyn Mint?? Why does Jay Z not brang about that?? Why was Jay Z such a true friend to BIG, but Diddy was a snake toBIG?? Why does disc 1 of Life After Death go street song, radio song, street song, radio song, street song?? What did Diddy do to make BIG angry at the SourceAwards?? Why did Suge have a convo with BIG before he went on stage?? Why was BIG talkin DIRECTLY to BIG when he dissed Diddy at the Source Awards?? Whydidn't BIG sign with Death Row like he told Suge he would?? Why did BIG was Ready To Die to sound like Doggystyle/Chronic?? Why did Diddy but BIG'spublishing for $20,000?? Why did Diddy's cousin shoot and kill Suge's best friend in Atlanta?? Why was that same man killed by members of BMF inAtlanta?? Why did Jeezy become part of Boyz N Da Hood for only ONE album?? Why is Bad Boy South run by Block?? Why did Block manage 2Pac before he died?? Whydidn't Suge do business with Block??

Ask yourself everything I just asked . . . Its all about money, if it wasn't Diddy wouldve been touched by now . . . Why was Pac and Suge in a drop top on125th street?? Why was Jimmy Henchmen doin time in Cali when Pac got killed?? Why did Suge slap Game in 02?? Why is Game managed by Jimmy Henchmen?? Why wasSuge living in fear during his 7 years in prison?? Why was David Mack abesent from work in the 3 days before and after BIGs death??

Things aren't always what they seem. Anyone with a brain would laugh at the posibility of a coincidence in ANY situation that happens on planet earth . . .
 
Originally Posted by Starvin Harlem

. . . .Why was BIG talkin DIRECTLY to BIG when he dissed Diddy at the Source Awards?? Why didn't BIG sign with Death Row like he told Suge he would?? Why did BIG was Ready To Die to sound like Doggystyle/Chronic?? Why did Diddy but BIG's publishing for $20,000?? Why did Diddy's cousin shoot and kill Suge's best friend in Atlanta?? Why was that same man killed by members of BMF in Atlanta?? Why did Jeezy become part of Boyz N Da Hood for only ONE album?? Why is Bad Boy South run by Block?? Why did Block manage 2Pac before he died?? Why didn't Suge do business with Block??

Ask yourself everything I just asked . . . Its all about money, if it wasn't Diddy wouldve been touched by now . . . Why was Pac and Suge in a drop top on 125th street?? Why was Jimmy Henchmen doin time in Cali when Pac got killed?? Why did Suge slap Game in 02?? Why is Game managed by Jimmy Henchmen?? Why was Suge living in fear during his 7 years in prison?? Why was David Mack abesent from work in the 3 days before and after BIGs death??

Things aren't always what they seem. Anyone with a brain would laugh at the posibility of a coincidence in ANY situation that happens on planet earth . . .
you were starting to make sence until you wrote this part.
 
Originally Posted by 03silverbullet

Originally Posted by Starvin Harlem

. . . .Why was BIG talkin DIRECTLY to BIG when he dissed Diddy at the Source Awards?? Why didn't BIG sign with Death Row like he told Suge he would?? Why did BIG was Ready To Die to sound like Doggystyle/Chronic?? Why did Diddy but BIG's publishing for $20,000?? Why did Diddy's cousin shoot and kill Suge's best friend in Atlanta?? Why was that same man killed by members of BMF in Atlanta?? Why did Jeezy become part of Boyz N Da Hood for only ONE album?? Why is Bad Boy South run by Block?? Why did Block manage 2Pac before he died?? Why didn't Suge do business with Block??

Ask yourself everything I just asked . . . Its all about money, if it wasn't Diddy wouldve been touched by now . . . Why was Pac and Suge in a drop top on 125th street?? Why was Jimmy Henchmen doin time in Cali when Pac got killed?? Why did Suge slap Game in 02?? Why is Game managed by Jimmy Henchmen?? Why was Suge living in fear during his 7 years in prison?? Why was David Mack abesent from work in the 3 days before and after BIGs death??

Things aren't always what they seem. Anyone with a brain would laugh at the posibility of a coincidence in ANY situation that happens on planet earth . . .
you were starting to make sence until you wrote this part.

Word, I got completely lost at this point... All those questions gave me a
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I don't claim to be a scholar when it comes to the death of Pac and Biggie but from what I have gathered Puff had a lot more to do with the death of BiggieSmalls then most people understand. Don't let the act fool you either, towards the end Big and Puff weren't all that close and even Big's moms wastelling him that she didn't trust Puff at all.
 
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