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Yea they asked who's a raider fan in the orientation and nearly half the people stood up
Place is amazing
Yea they asked who's a raider fan in the orientation and nearly half the people stood up
Place is amazing
raider fans gotta witness a winning team one way or another.
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my bad, i know this is a raider thread, so i won't say any further and go back to lurking.
Look at the 49ers. Jed York brought in Paraag marathe as a close advisor and now he's the team president. Look at his bioInaccurate.
Don't conflate the stadium situation with the on field product. NFL has a salary cap, that alone assures that any team can be competitive regardless of other issues outside the gridiron. Just have faith that a smart organization can be put together to create a strong football product and let the big wigs worry about the other stuff.
the guy needs to sell the team asap.I'm sure, but frankly I'm of the opinion that Mark Davis won't be the owner of the team much longer. I don't mean months of course, but in a few years time he'll have to relinquish his grip on the franchise.
At that point we can expect things to fall in place for the team one way or another.
Sorry bro but you have no idea what you're talking about in this regard. I could post endless articles on Oakland from travel and lifestyle publications written in the last year as well as commercial business tax records, property tax records, and hotel tax records from 2012-2013 but I'm really not trying to get into that. Bottom line is the city of Oakland is more than capable of sustaining the Raiders franchise. The city has actually seen such a sharp upwards trajectory that painting some picture that somehow the Oakland Raiders and their NFL franchise are above the city and underserved by playing here is laughable. If we're talking bout growth there's actually more room for growth here in Oakland than an San Francisco given how much closer SF is to reaching a point of diminishing returns. Like I said you really have no idea about upward growth in Oakland. The figures and numbers on eceonomic growth are regularly available on lie. Not even gonna get into the how much the Raiders draw from the extended East Bay, the Central Valley, and even Socal for its amazing fan support.
this franchise is in disarray - no wins, not much long term promise, and they don't even have a damn up-to-date stadium to play in.
There will be no stadium in oakland. Oakland has no $ to pay for it. The team will not play in santa clara, they have too much pride to share a stadium.
The team will not move to San Antonio (Jerry Jones indicated it's not gonna happen). The team will not move to LA.
I see this team being stuck at the coliseum for a while to be honest.
I see this team being stuck in disarray for a while .
Tell me if this is accurate?
It's unfortunate, because I've been a fan of this organization for a long long time.
yet I have seen nothing but a horribly managed enterprise for many many many years and I see the same thing occurring in the future. makes me want to boycott supporting this team by way of not purchasing tickets, jerseys etc.
this team should play in santa clara, they would definitely gain a lot from that. The 49ers moved to the silicon valley for a reason, it's affluent and it's a place where teams will make money. In the same way, the raiders will be able to gain from some of that affluence. They play in a decrepit city, there's a reason why the Warriors (who have had amazing ticket sales/support) are moving across the bay, there is just more upward potential in SF than in oakland. That same upward growth is in the silicon valley too. It's just not in oakland.
Props to you my dude. haha you exposed me, I was ignorant about a lot of the stuff I was saying.
Sorry bro but you have no idea what you're talking about in this regard. I could post endless articles on Oakland from travel and lifestyle publications written in the last year as well as commercial business tax records, property tax records, and hotel tax records from 2012-2013 but I'm really not trying to get into that. Bottom line is the city of Oakland is more than capable of sustaining the Raiders franchise. The city has actually seen such a sharp upwards trajectory that painting some picture that somehow the Oakland Raiders and their NFL franchise are above the city and underserved by playing here is laughable. If we're talking bout growth there's actually more room for growth here in Oakland than an San Francisco given how much closer SF is to reaching a point of diminishing returns. Like I said you really have no idea about upward growth in Oakland. The figures and numbers on eceonomic growth are regularly available on lie. Not even gonna get into the how much the Raiders draw from the extended East Bay, the Central Valley, and even Socal for its amazing fan support.
On the football side of the things, maybe others will disagree, but I've been very pleased with the slow and steady transition away from the disarray that has plagued this franchise the past decade plus some. You say there's no long term promise for the organization and with the current front office and staff long term disarray will continue to be a part of our future, I disagree. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Lastly, if i see one more person citing the fact that the City of Oakland has no way to pay for a stadium I'm going to lose it.That's just not how this **** works, not in the state of California, not in many other pro sports states, not in a very long time. No significant allocation of funds for Levi's stadium was provided by public money. Not a dime of public money was provided for the Earth Quakes stadium. The Kings new Arena is mostly being financed through private funds, I think Goldman Sach's just like Levis. ATT&T Park 100% privately financed. The Warriors SF Area will be 100% privately financed. People keep siting that Oakland is too broke pay for the 400-600M the Raiders are short right now as if using public money to finance a stadium has been a viable option for any professional sports franchise in the state of CA for decades. It's akin to saying Little Johny isn't going to *insert expensive private educational institution here* because he personally doesn't have the money to pay for tuition.
TLDR; all of you saying Coliseum City are dead need to chill and wait it out like the rest of us.
Sorry bro but you have no idea what you're talking about in this regard. I could post endless articles on Oakland from travel and lifestyle publications written in the last year as well as commercial business tax records, property tax records, and hotel tax records from 2012-2013 but I'm really not trying to get into that. Bottom line is the city of Oakland is more than capable of sustaining the Raiders franchise. The city has actually seen such a sharp upwards trajectory that painting some picture that somehow the Oakland Raiders and their NFL franchise are above the city and underserved by playing here is laughable. If we're talking bout growth there's actually more room for growth here in Oakland than an San Francisco given how much closer SF is to reaching a point of diminishing returns. Like I said you really have no idea about upward growth in Oakland. The figures and numbers on eceonomic growth are regularly available on lie. Not even gonna get into the how much the Raiders draw from the extended East Bay, the Central Valley, and even Socal for its amazing fan support.
On the football side of the things, maybe others will disagree, but I've been very pleased with the slow and steady transition away from the disarray that has plagued this franchise the past decade plus some. You say there's no long term promise for the organization and with the current front office and staff long term disarray will continue to be a part of our future, I disagree. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Lastly, if i see one more person citing the fact that the City of Oakland has no way to pay for a stadium I'm going to lose it. That's just not how this **** works, not in the state of California, not in many other pro sports states, not in a very long time. No significant allocation of funds for Levi's stadium was provided by public money. Not a dime of public money was provided for the Earth Quakes stadium. The Kings new Arena is mostly being financed through private funds, I think Goldman Sach's just like Levis. ATT&T Park 100% privately financed. The Warriors SF Area will be 100% privately financed. People keep siting that Oakland is too broke pay for the 400-600M the Raiders are short right now as if using public money to finance a stadium has been a viable option for any professional sports franchise in the state of CA for decades. It's akin to saying Little Johny isn't going to *insert expensive private educational institution here* because he personally doesn't have the money to pay for tuition.
TLDR; all of you saying Coliseum City are dead need to chill and wait it out like the rest of us.