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For people saying it's not a dream how do you explain the kids not aging or changing clothes?
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For people saying it's not a dream how do you explain the kids not aging or changing clothes?
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any of them can have their subconscious present, its the whole idea ofa subconscious, generating projections without even thinking about it
thereason you see the "victim's" subconscious all the time is because theydont know theyre dreaming, so theyre subconscious is what makes thedream feel real by generating familiar projections, note the idea of itfeeling real
all the while everyone else except leo knows thattheyre dreaming at all times, they know because they dont recognize anyspecifics, only generalities, if they were to recognize specificdetails in the world it would begin to feel real, on top of that theyhave no subconscious thoughts about what goes on within theirdreamworld unlike leo who has this subconscious thought that mal willalways be there with him in familiar locations
the problemwith leo is that mal shows up every time the dream begins to feel real- the bridge, all those rooms connected to the elevator that he himselfarchitect-ed, the safe entrance in level 3, its the little details thatmake the dream feel real to leo and once it begins to feel real - hebegins to subconsciously generate generate familiar projections inorder to keep it feeling real
dont forget that when adriednefirst architect-ed the bridge to her school, there was no victim andleo's subconscious still showed up
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any of them can have their subconscious present, its the whole idea ofa subconscious, generating projections without even thinking about it
thereason you see the "victim's" subconscious all the time is because theydont know theyre dreaming, so theyre subconscious is what makes thedream feel real by generating familiar projections, note the idea of itfeeling real
all the while everyone else except leo knows thattheyre dreaming at all times, they know because they dont recognize anyspecifics, only generalities, if they were to recognize specificdetails in the world it would begin to feel real, on top of that theyhave no subconscious thoughts about what goes on within theirdreamworld unlike leo who has this subconscious thought that mal willalways be there with him in familiar locations
the problemwith leo is that mal shows up every time the dream begins to feel real- the bridge, all those rooms connected to the elevator that he himselfarchitect-ed, the safe entrance in level 3, its the little details thatmake the dream feel real to leo and once it begins to feel real - hebegins to subconsciously generate generate familiar projections inorder to keep it feeling real
dont forget that when adriednefirst architect-ed the bridge to her school, there was no victim andleo's subconscious still showed up
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NO. there is zero gravity in free fall which is why when the van is falling from the bridge in the first level of the dream it looks like they are floating in space in the second level.
the movie was eh
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NO. there is zero gravity in free fall which is why when the van is falling from the bridge in the first level of the dream it looks like they are floating in space in the second level.
the movie was eh
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What i dont get is how after juno kills herself in limbo and Leo stays so he can save saito. How does he end up unconscious on the shore?
and why is saito an old man and leo isnt? is it because he died on level 3 of the dream a few minutes before leo and juno went to limbo so therefore he aged like 40 years?
also, what the !!%# ? they make the movie complex enough they don't need to have even more complex names. mal, cobb, adriande or whatever, eames, saito. really? most of the population is stupid enough as it is. but i digress.
and why is saito an old man and leo isnt? is it because he died on level 3 of the dream a few minutes before leo and juno went to limbo so therefore he aged like 40 years?
also, what the !!%# ? they make the movie complex enough they don't need to have even more complex names. mal, cobb, adriande or whatever, eames, saito. really? most of the population is stupid enough as it is. but i digress.
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What i dont get is how after juno kills herself in limbo and Leo stays so he can save saito. How does he end up unconscious on the shore?
and why is saito an old man and leo isnt? is it because he died on level 3 of the dream a few minutes before leo and juno went to limbo so therefore he aged like 40 years?
also, what the !!%# ? they make the movie complex enough they don't need to have even more complex names. mal, cobb, adriande or whatever, eames, saito. really? most of the population is stupid enough as it is. but i digress.
and why is saito an old man and leo isnt? is it because he died on level 3 of the dream a few minutes before leo and juno went to limbo so therefore he aged like 40 years?
also, what the !!%# ? they make the movie complex enough they don't need to have even more complex names. mal, cobb, adriande or whatever, eames, saito. really? most of the population is stupid enough as it is. but i digress.
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the kid's didn't age because you're never told how long he's away from them. for all you know it was a few months to a year. it was probably less time than more because the kids are clearly young and still wondering when their dad is coming home.
Nolan mind *%%@$ us about this point by having the older daughters voice sound VERY old at some point and then making sure the kids are wearing the sme clothes every time we see them.
While the voice is indeed him screwing with us and something that is somewhat of an "inception" on the movie watcher, it's left to you to resolve that as an important point or just a nonfactor meant to mess with our heads.
The clothes are unimportant and a plot device used to further cause doubt in the viewer but really not something that should be dwelt on. If you want you can say that they wear the same clothes every time because he's building their projections from memory, but it's also important to note that he says he can't see their faces because he never sees their faces in the real moment but at the end he does see their faces - they turn and look at him.
What they just so happen to be wearing is unimportant. Every little kid has a favorite outfit that they wear more than others. I'm sure you even know bummy adult dudes that wear the same clothes every time you see them.
That said, are you SURE they're wearing the same clothes? Are you certain that if you compared the scenes frame by frame they'd be wearing identical clothing? Even if you did and can, what they're wearing can be resolved as a coincidence and not something to be dwelt on.
After all Leo pauses when he sees them until they turn around and this is enough proof for him that they at least do not appear to be a projection.
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the kid's didn't age because you're never told how long he's away from them. for all you know it was a few months to a year. it was probably less time than more because the kids are clearly young and still wondering when their dad is coming home.
Nolan mind *%%@$ us about this point by having the older daughters voice sound VERY old at some point and then making sure the kids are wearing the sme clothes every time we see them.
While the voice is indeed him screwing with us and something that is somewhat of an "inception" on the movie watcher, it's left to you to resolve that as an important point or just a nonfactor meant to mess with our heads.
The clothes are unimportant and a plot device used to further cause doubt in the viewer but really not something that should be dwelt on. If you want you can say that they wear the same clothes every time because he's building their projections from memory, but it's also important to note that he says he can't see their faces because he never sees their faces in the real moment but at the end he does see their faces - they turn and look at him.
What they just so happen to be wearing is unimportant. Every little kid has a favorite outfit that they wear more than others. I'm sure you even know bummy adult dudes that wear the same clothes every time you see them.
That said, are you SURE they're wearing the same clothes? Are you certain that if you compared the scenes frame by frame they'd be wearing identical clothing? Even if you did and can, what they're wearing can be resolved as a coincidence and not something to be dwelt on.
After all Leo pauses when he sees them until they turn around and this is enough proof for him that they at least do not appear to be a projection.
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I'm glad I learned about the wedding ring thing. Every single point in the movie where Leo is dreaming, he has his wedding ring on. And every single point when it is supposed to be the real world, he has no wedding ring on.
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I'm glad I learned about the wedding ring thing. Every single point in the movie where Leo is dreaming, he has his wedding ring on. And every single point when it is supposed to be the real world, he has no wedding ring on.
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another question when cobb and mal were on the ledges and she was saying something i didnt quite catch... i found the letter to lawyer about how... something? help
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another question when cobb and mal were on the ledges and she was saying something i didnt quite catch... i found the letter to lawyer about how... something? help
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she was talking about how she left their lawyer a letter/will saying how she feared for her and her kids safety around cobb. so if/when she killed her self cobb would be the one to blame. so she thought she could lure him into also killing himself.
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she was talking about how she left their lawyer a letter/will saying how she feared for her and her kids safety around cobb. so if/when she killed her self cobb would be the one to blame. so she thought she could lure him into also killing himself.
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never noticed that. does he have the wedding ring on during the final scene?
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never noticed that. does he have the wedding ring on during the final scene?
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just got back. 6 bucks on tuesdays and the theater was packed. thing is always empty but not tonight
the guy i was with saw it for the 3rd time and this was my first. i think im gonna have to see it again
the guy i was with saw it for the 3rd time and this was my first. i think im gonna have to see it again
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just got back. 6 bucks on tuesdays and the theater was packed. thing is always empty but not tonight
the guy i was with saw it for the 3rd time and this was my first. i think im gonna have to see it again
the guy i was with saw it for the 3rd time and this was my first. i think im gonna have to see it again
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We're supposed to understand that Leo woke up from the kick in limbo (though we never really see it happen) and rode at least that ONE kick with them, we don't know what level he dies on, but we're meant to understand he left limbo with Ariadne then died again. We know for a fact that he drowns in the van, but since we never see him wake there we're to believe he dies on one of the levels below it, but not limbo since he returns to the starting point -- the shore.
Saito is an old @#@ man because he died several minutes before Leo or anyone else went there to join him. He'd been waiting for what must have been the equivalent of 60+ years to him.
Some of the names are annoying (I hated Mal's name) but I believe some were chosen for their significance in mythology/literature/dream science i.e. Ariadne
I'm not sure what the exchange about the lawyer letter was, I guess I missed it? *EDIT* Ohhhh you mean when she kills herself. She left her lawyer a letter saying Leo had threatened hers and her kids' life so when she died he'd be blamed for it and they'd take the kids. She was trying to convince him to kill her.
not sure if this is true because i'm pretty sure there's a scene early on in the film when he's "awake" and he has the ring on. i'd also need to look at his hand in every confirmed dream sequence.
i'd have to watch the whole movie over, but i'm not sure if this is true...
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We're supposed to understand that Leo woke up from the kick in limbo (though we never really see it happen) and rode at least that ONE kick with them, we don't know what level he dies on, but we're meant to understand he left limbo with Ariadne then died again. We know for a fact that he drowns in the van, but since we never see him wake there we're to believe he dies on one of the levels below it, but not limbo since he returns to the starting point -- the shore.
Saito is an old @#@ man because he died several minutes before Leo or anyone else went there to join him. He'd been waiting for what must have been the equivalent of 60+ years to him.
Some of the names are annoying (I hated Mal's name) but I believe some were chosen for their significance in mythology/literature/dream science i.e. Ariadne
I'm not sure what the exchange about the lawyer letter was, I guess I missed it? *EDIT* Ohhhh you mean when she kills herself. She left her lawyer a letter saying Leo had threatened hers and her kids' life so when she died he'd be blamed for it and they'd take the kids. She was trying to convince him to kill her.
not sure if this is true because i'm pretty sure there's a scene early on in the film when he's "awake" and he has the ring on. i'd also need to look at his hand in every confirmed dream sequence.
i'd have to watch the whole movie over, but i'm not sure if this is true...
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Inception was Epic!
My theory on it was maybe inception was done on Cobb into thinking that his world was real?
and the most important part was the end... the top spinning was amisdirection: you were too busy paying attention to the top to realizethat Cobb wasn't paying attention to it, for the first time. hedoesn't care anymore. he is happy. the whole thing was masterfulinception to help Cobb overcome his guilt.
Just my 2 cents.
My theory on it was maybe inception was done on Cobb into thinking that his world was real?
and the most important part was the end... the top spinning was amisdirection: you were too busy paying attention to the top to realizethat Cobb wasn't paying attention to it, for the first time. hedoesn't care anymore. he is happy. the whole thing was masterfulinception to help Cobb overcome his guilt.
Just my 2 cents.
