T-Mobile Project Dark- $50 Unlimited Everything Plan!? UPDATE: IT'S UP!!! T-Mobile.com!!!

[ninjahood]

main problem is no one wants to develop for da winMo OS considering microsoft is SELLING they're Kits when google is giving away

superior kits for free

 

[lysolflow]

10 Piece Nuggets wrote:

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Man...this topic no longer has anything to do with this Project Dark business.









SON.... that's what i'm sayin... smh... no one is gonna listen to anyone... only person who can say and give an honest opinion is the catthat got the LATEST BLACKBERRY, HTC touch pro2, Sidekick 2009, iphone 3gs, samsung whatever they got... ALL AT THE SAME TIME...

no, toying around w/ ya friend's phone doesnt count, and them saying "man, this phone sucks... i want this phone" doesnt count either... i justwanna see some updated news on Project Dark...

 

[ninjahood]

da powers that be aren't talkin..and it appears cat got myT's tongue....

something's up..i can smell it.

 

[food4thgt]

Sooo...is this real or fake ...?

 

[cincoseisdos]

Originally Posted by encore2007

Can someone tell me if 6.5 winmo phone will be able to just upgrade to 7?

nope

MSFT stated this some time back.

I'm sure through the scene you'll find a ROM that does it though

 

[mr monday niight]

Custom rom's turned my touch pro into a beast..battery life sucks though

 

[big j 33]

Originally Posted by Food4Thgt

Sooo...is this real or fake ...?

It's still rumors at this point.

Be surprised if this doesn't leak until very close to their official announcement, T-Mobile appears very serious about keeping a lid on this,non-disclosure agreements and all. Any information at this point is purely speculation as to what T-Mobile will do.

Expect at least some new devices which are known for a fact, Cliq, 9700, N series. Expect continued improvements to T-Mobile's 3G coverage map and perhapsan increase in speeds as they roll out their faster networks. And that's all that is really known 99.9% sure right now.

As new rumors come out or any confirmation, I'll be sure to check back and update this post if no one else does.

 

[raffstylexx]

2010- Windows mobile 7.... New Symbian OS.... Maemo 5 + time of upgrade (free phone) = i cant damn wait !!!!

 

[NCtwin]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by Food4Thgt

Sooo...is this real or fake ...?

It's still rumors at this point.

Be surprised if this doesn't leak until very close to their official announcement, T-Mobile appears very serious about keeping a lid on this, non-disclosure agreements and all. Any information at this point is purely speculation as to what T-Mobile will do.

Expect at least some new devices which are known for a fact, Cliq, 9700, N series. Expect continued improvements to T-Mobile's 3G coverage map and perhaps an increase in speeds as they roll out their faster networks. And that's all that is really known 99.9% sure right now.

As new rumors come out or any confirmation, I'll be sure to check back and update this post if no one else does.

Thank you. So will I. I stepped away for a bit and this turned into an SK vs. BB post. This is not what it was all about...feel free to make another post forthat.

 

[thunderchunk69]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by Food4Thgt

Sooo...is this real or fake ...?

It's still rumors at this point.

Be surprised if this doesn't leak until very close to their official announcement, T-Mobile appears very serious about keeping a lid on this, non-disclosure agreements and all. Any information at this point is purely speculation as to what T-Mobile will do.

Expect at least some new devices which are known for a fact, Cliq, 9700, N series. Expect continued improvements to T-Mobile's 3G coverage map and perhaps an increase in speeds as they roll out their faster networks. And that's all that is really known 99.9% sure right now.

As new rumors come out or any confirmation, I'll be sure to check back and update this post if no one else does.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/?category.id=Sidekick
shows true

Sidekick customers, during this service disruption, please DO NOT remove your battery, reset your Sidekick, or allow it to lose power.
Updated: 10/12/2009 5:15 PM PDT

T-MOBILE STATUS UPDATE ON SIDEKICK DATA DISRUPTION, MON., OCT. 12

Dear valued T-Mobile Sidekick customers:

We are thankful for your continued patience as Microsoft/Danger continues to work on preserving platform stability and restoring all services for our Sidekick customers. We have made significant progress this past weekend, restoring services to virtually every customer. Microsoft/Danger has teams of experts in place who are working around-the-clock to ensure this stability is maintained.

Regarding those of you who have lost personal content, T-Mobile and Microsoft/Danger continue to do all we can to recover and return any lost information. Recent efforts indicate the prospects of recovering some lost content may now be possible. We will continue to keep you updated on this front; we know how important this is to you.

In the event certain customers have experienced a significant and permanent loss of personal content, T-Mobile will be sending these customers a $100 customer appreciation card. This will be in addition to the free month of data service that already went to Sidekick data customers. This card can be used towards T-Mobile products and services, or a customer's T-Mobile bill. For those who fall into this category, details will be sent out in the next 14 days - there is no action needed on the part of these customers. We however remain hopeful that for the majority of our customers, personal content can be recovered.

Sidekick customers can continue to visit these Forums on a regular basis to access the latest updates, as well as FAQs regarding this service disruption. The Forums also offers tips and suggestions for rebuilding content on your device.

 

[mr jordan04]

any tmobile employees know if they'll be having the Free flight/companion flight free again during thanksgiving weekend? That promo+this promo together

 

[thunderchunk69]

Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

any tmobile employees know if they'll be having the Free flight/companion flight free again during thanksgiving weekend? That promo+this promo together

still haven't used mine

, might have to end up sellingit!

 

[dathbgboy]

Just got an update, nothin major

From what I heard from a reliable source, there will be 3 different plans w/ Project Dark, that's all they could give me

 

[mr jordan04]

Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69

Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

any tmobile employees know if they'll be having the Free flight/companion flight free again during thanksgiving weekend? That promo+this promo together

still haven't used mine

, might have to end up selling it!

i had the original one from like 07, and the last 2 days too book their phone lines didnt work. called a bunch of times and nothing. called tmobile and theysaid a lot of people are having this problem, so im sure you'll be ok. date passed, and they said i couldnt use it, even tho their phone lines had a busytone all day for two days straight

 

[rafool]

Originally Posted by Dathbgboy


From what I heard from a reliable source, there will be 3 different plans w/ Project Dark, that's all they could give me

Anyone wanna shed a bit more light on this?

 

[NCtwin]

3 plans!? Interesting...I wonder how that's going to work..

 

[big j 33]

Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by Food4Thgt

Sooo...is this real or fake ...?

It's still rumors at this point.

Be surprised if this doesn't leak until very close to their official announcement, T-Mobile appears very serious about keeping a lid on this, non-disclosure agreements and all. Any information at this point is purely speculation as to what T-Mobile will do.

Expect at least some new devices which are known for a fact, Cliq, 9700, N series. Expect continued improvements to T-Mobile's 3G coverage map and perhaps an increase in speeds as they roll out their faster networks. And that's all that is really known 99.9% sure right now.

As new rumors come out or any confirmation, I'll be sure to check back and update this post if no one else does.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/?category.id=Sidekick
shows true

I wasn't talking about the Sidekicks at all, I was speaking of Project Dark.

 

[eddie]

Most exciting thing about this is the N900

 

[dathbgboy]

Originally Posted by eddie

Most exciting thing about this is the N900

From what I just read, there is supposed to be a whole line of N phones rolling out w/ this

[h2][/h2]

[h2]Achtung, T-Mobile: if Project Dark is $50 unlimited, you're in trouble[/h2]
by Chris Ziegler posted Oct 12th 2009 at 2:00AM

Put yourself in T-Mobile USA's shoes for a moment: rumor has it that the guys who pay the bills aren't happy. History, happenstance, and the realities of electromagnetics have left you with an oddball 3G frequency that literally no other carrier in the world uses (at least, not for HSPA). Larger competitors don't take you as seriously as you'd like, and you don't have smaller ones -- they're all regionals who don't play in the same space you do. So what's your next move?
Rumors have been swirling the past few days about a "Project Dark" (or "Black," depending on who you believe) that revolves around a few key strategies designed to turn the entire industry upside down by rapidly pilfering market share from T-Mobile's competition -- possibly to the point of leapfrogging Sprint. The first element to this is allegedly a barrage of data-rich devices including two Nokia Nseries (the N900 being one of them) and a continued heavy push to stay the Android market leader through introductions like the Motorola CLIQ and Samsung Behold II. We're totally cool with that part -- T-Mobile's investing heavily in its 3G market lately, literally lighting up new markets every few days, and it only makes sense that they'd want devices ready and able to take advantage of those speeds. The next part says that Dark will see 21Mbps HSPA+ get rolled out at a breakneck pace, presumably designed to put pressure on AT&T which is still in the midst of a less sensational 7.2Mbps introduction. Neither the handset strategy nor the 21Mbps plans are really baseless rumors; with the exception of a single unnamed Nokia, all of the phones mentioned for Dark are very real, and T-Mobile's senior vice president of engineering operations has gone on record committing to a national HSPA+ rollout next year. It's all happening -- call it Dark, Black, Light, Blue, Magenta, whatever you want.

That brings us to the final tenet of Dark, which has T-Mobile planning a blockbuster $50 all-you-can-eat plan that would undercut its nearest national competitor -- Sprint, with its Simply Everything plan -- by a ridiculous $50 (AT&T's recently-announced unlimited prepaid plan comes in at $60, but it lacks data, the most critical element here). Sounds enticing, doesn't it? Too good to be true, even, but we don't doubt T-Mobile would do it just to shake things up, especially since they've always had a reputation for undercutting the competition.

Unfortunately, it's a fool's game -- and if it happens, we're pretty sure it's going to end in tears. Here's why:

• Boost Mobile -- operating on Nextel's historically robust network -- had bouts of trouble with the influx of subscriber adds brought about by its own $50 unlimited plan, and that was on a totally different scale: the phones aren't nearly as interesting and 3G data simply doesn't exist. When potential customers realize they can get, say, an N900 or a CLIQ and stream Pandora or last.fm until the cows come home for that same $50, there'll be a run on stores, riots in the streets, overturned cars, the whole nine yards. And that's before 10,000 new customers a day get home, turn on their phones, start downloading apps, make Skype calls, and cause cell sites to spontaneously combust.
• Capping your potential revenue per customer at $50 a month isn't a recipe for heavy capital reinvestment, which is exactly what T-Mobile will need a lot of to make good on Dark -- and fast. In fact, both Verizon and AT&T have total ARPUs (average revenue per user) above the $50 mark already, and T-Mobile's current postpaid ARPU is up there, too. Translation: excluding a subscriber influx, T-Mobile would be taking in less money per postpaid customer than it is now while offering considerably (infinitely?) more service. Including the inevitable influx, sure, revenue goes through the roof -- but profit is a huge question mark.
• One of T-Mobile's hallmarks has been stellar customer service. Historically, the carrier has never offered the biggest coverage footprint or the biggest handset selection, but you could basically always count on 'em to take care of you. Think they'll be able to keep that reputation intact with one-third again as many subscribers within a few months' time?
• We're not doubting that T-Mobile is planning its 3G network (whether it be HSPA or HSPA+) for increased capacity, but the magnitude of advanced planning and expense that would be required to accommodate the number of high data consumption adds brought about by a plan this cheap would be truly staggering. It's the perfect storm -- the carrier would be simultaneously adding the most powerful devices it's ever offered and dramatically undercutting its closest competition on plan pricing, and the resulting strain would be picked up by an untested network.
• Network build-outs are measured in months or years, not days. If markets start imploding because T-Mobile realizes it doesn't actually have the infrastructure to suddenly be the number two or three carrier, that's not a problem it can solve quickly -- or cheaply.

In a perfect world, we'd all have Cortex A9-powered phones running the mega-powerful operating system of your choice with 2GB of internal RAM and a 4.5-inch WVGA display hooked up to a network offering all-you-can-eat voice, data, and messaging in exchange for the pennies and lint in our pockets, but the cold, hard realities of spectrum allocation, technology, and the surly bonds of capitalism conspire to make it impossible. We beg of you, T-Mobile -- for the good of your network and your customers -- don't pull the trigger on this unless you're absolutely positive you've covered every contingency (and history suggests you've got some work to do there).

 

[mr jordan04]

Originally Posted by Rafool

Originally Posted by Dathbgboy


From what I heard from a reliable source, there will be 3 different plans w/ Project Dark, that's all they could give me

Anyone wanna shed a bit more light on this?

if true, i kinda see it as a $50, $75 and $100 plan

 

[antone209]

Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69

Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

any tmobile employees know if they'll be having the Free flight/companion flight free again during thanksgiving weekend? That promo+this promo together

still haven't used mine

, might have to end up selling it!

how can you sell it? i have mine too, its up in Feb. but still dont think ill use it by then. holla!

 

[drunken cow]

Hmm...if this goes thru, imma be tethering thru my phone all day long whenever i travel out the house.

 

[holdenmichael]

if true, i kinda see it as a $50, $75 and $100 plan


So, $50 for unlimited minutes
+ unlimited texting = $75
+ unlimited texting and data = $100?

So, the perks went from unlimited m2m on the same network > unlimited m2m on the same network + 3/5/10 other numbers > unlimited m2m on any network >unlimited minutes.

I guess I can see that.

 

[donpoppa]

but with the loyalty plan and bb data dont it come up to like $85

 

[NCtwin]

^I think so, so I don't know if that's going to work...