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Boston with an 8 year offer to Teixeira
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Source, please.Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
GotHolesInMySocks:
looks like Tex is headed to Baltimore and Manny is headed to Anaheim
whooaaaaaa!!! u prolly forgot hanley is in the same division..Originally Posted by thetruth03
at Furcal back in Atlanta...
But what is Atlanta going to do with Yunel Escobar?
IMO Escobar has the highest ceiling out of any SS in the NL East.. Yes he's that nice..
Moving him to 2nd base would pretty much be pointless..
If atlanta is able to get Jake Peavy in a trade for Escobar.. I'd see the reasoning.. Anything other than that is not a good look..
I'm sorry i'd take Escobar over Furcal at this point in their careers... maybe Furcal can move to 2nd?
Sources: Furcal eyes Braves, Dodgers
The courting of free agent Rafael Furcal has turned into something of a circus, with many twists and turns -- and the way it's playing out, somebody is going to be irked.
On Monday afternoon, officials involved in Furcal's negotiations were convinced that the Oakland Athletics, with an offer of four years and $38 million, were the front-runner to sign the shortstop.
Wrong.
Late Monday night, club executives engaged in talks with Furcal's representatives were informed that Furcal was on the verge of a deal with the Atlanta Braves, at three years and $30 million, and a vesting option for the fourth year based on Furcal playing 132 games in the third year of the contract.
Wrong.
Now sources are saying that the Los Angeles Dodgers have re-engaged in negotiations with Furcal, and as of Tuesday afternoon were working to bring back the shortstop.
Where it stops, nobody knows.
Earlier in the day Tuesday, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com that Furcal had reached preliminary agreement with Atlanta pending completion of a physical exam.
As the day progressed, agent Paul Kinzer stated publicly that Furcal had yet to commit to the Braves, where he spent his first six major league seasons. Atlanta general manager Frank Wren didn't respond to an e-mail seeking comment.
"The Braves are definitely in the lead right now,'' Kinzer said. "That's what I told them last night -- 'right now, he's leaning toward you guys.' But I wanted Raffy to sleep on it so we could talk about it again today. I didn't want him to make an emotional decision, because he was so excited about coming [to Atlanta].
"It's not done until we sign off and there's a physical exam, and we haven't gotten that far. Until a letter of agreement is signed, we don't even start the process to get him to Atlanta for a physical.'' Furcal is still in the Dominican Republic, and Kinzer planned to fly to New York later Tuesday for a Wednesday news conference that will introduce another one of his clients, New York Mets closer Francisco Rodriguez, to the New York media. Since the winter meetings ended in Las Vegas last week, the shortstop's options had been becoming narrower by the day. The Toronto Blue Jays and Kansas City Royals dropped out of the running for Furcal, and Kinzer said Tuesday morning that Oakland was no longer in contention. He said the Dodgers and the Braves are the only candidates left in the race.
"I still haven't talked to the Dodgers,'' Kinzer said Tuesday afternoon. "I'll let them know in person if [Furcal] makes a decision.''
That was before sources told ESPN The Magazine that the Dodgers' negotiations with Furcal were gaining momentum later in the day Tuesday. The two sides had talked as recently as 7 p.m. ET. Kinzer confirmed that the Braves have talked to Furcal about the possibility of shifting from shortstop to second base, a move that could result in the shift of second baseman Kelly Johnson to left field. Yunel Escobar, Atlanta's starting shortstop in 2008, had been mentioned recently as a candidate to be dealt to San Diego in a package trade for pitcher Jake Peavy.
Furcal spent the past three seasons with the Dodgers, but played in only 36 games last season due to back issues.
A career .286 hitter, Furcal, 31, has missed 150 games over the past two seasons but makes an impact when he does play. He batted .357, with a .439 on-base percentage, in 36 games for the Dodgers last season, after hitting .270 with 25 steals in 2007.
Originally Posted by J Steezzz
Well Mike Sciosca called Terry Francona to ask how is it to have Manny on his team, I wanna hear that convo soooooo bad
Sources: Teixeira to Orioles unlikely
By Buster Olney
ESPN The Magazine
Unless free agent Mark Teixeira is willing to give the Orioles a major hometown discount, it does not appear he will be playing in Baltimore.
The Orioles have stood by their initial offer and have not upgraded it, and sources say that the other teams involved in the bidding -- the Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Angels and Washington Nationals -- have gone beyond Baltimore's proposal for the slugging first baseman.
Teixeira, 28, is considered one of the top unsigned free agents. He batted .308 with 33 home runs, 121 RBIs and a .552 slugging percentage for the Angels and Atlanta Braves last season.
The only way the Orioles can be considered a serious player for Teixeira now, sources say, would be if the Maryland native were to take their offer, which is believed to be for seven years and about $150 million.
"The Orioles are out of it, unless Teixeira really, really wants to play there," said one source.
According to MLB.com, the Nationals' offer stands at $160 million for eight years. During last week's winter meetings in Las Vegas, the Angels made an eight-year pitch to Teixeira's camp.
The New York Yankees, meanwhile, came into the offseason focused on upgrading their pitching, and have spent $243 million on CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett. But they are not seriously engaged in the Teixeira talks at this point. According to a source close to the negotiations, the Yankees have not taken the step that the Red Sox, Angels, Nationals and Orioles have taken -- the Yankees have not even made an offer on the first baseman.
Although the Red Sox are considered among the front-runners for Teixeira, they won't offer him a 10-year deal, principal owner John Henry said, according to the Boston Herald.
Asked if the Red Sox would rule out offering a free agent a guaranteed contract longer than any other in franchise history, Henry, without naming names, made it clear that won't happen, according to the Herald.
"Yes," Henry responded in an e-mail, according to the Herald. "The Red Sox effectively had a 10-year deal with a player determined not to live up to his contract. A lot can change over 10 years, for both sides."
Manny Ramirez, who had an eight-year contract with the Red Sox with two one-year team options, effectively forced a trade out of Boston last summer. He wound up having two highly productive months with the Dodgers and helped Los Angeles reach the playoffs.
Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks
whooaaaaaa!!! u prolly forgot hanley is in the same division..Originally Posted by thetruth03
at Furcal back in Atlanta...
But what is Atlanta going to do with Yunel Escobar?
IMO Escobar has the highest ceiling out of any SS in the NL East.. Yes he's that nice..
Moving him to 2nd base would pretty much be pointless..
If atlanta is able to get Jake Peavy in a trade for Escobar.. I'd see the reasoning.. Anything other than that is not a good look..
I'm sorry i'd take Escobar over Furcal at this point in their careers... maybe Furcal can move to 2nd?
anyway, they are reporting that he has not signed with atlanta yet and that his agent and the dodgers are still negotiatin
Originally Posted by bright nikes
I'm sorry man, Raffy hasn't lost a step in his range.
You have to realize those playoff games were like his minor league rehab, dude had no where to work out the kinks, he got thrown in the fire and thats what happened.
not last yr. Guzman was a HITTING MACHINE last year and i expect that to continue.Originally Posted by MFr3shM
Escobar is not better than Rollins, Reyes, Ramirez in, but he IS better than Guzman. Escobar is in the division with the best SS.
I was just about to say the same thing bro.Originally Posted by bright nikes
I'm sorry man, Raffy hasn't lost a step in his range.
You have to realize those playoff games were like his minor league rehab, dude had no where to work out the kinks, he got thrown in the fire and thats what happened.
Originally Posted by MFr3shM
Escobar is not better than Rollins, Reyes, Ramirez in, but he IS better than Guzman. Escobar is in the division with the best SS.
[h4]Agent: Peavy would probably OK deal to Red Sox[/h4]The Red Sox have "some" interest in Jake Peavy, but as of a few days ago the teams had not entertained any substantive trade talks as Padres GM Kevin Towers knew that Boston was not on Peavy's wish list. But now that talks with Atlanta and the Cubs have broken down, Towers needs a new team to deal with and the 27-year-old Peavy, according to his agent, Barry Axelrod, probably would OK a deal to Boston. -- Boston Globe
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[h4]Dodgers Andruw Jones to Bronx?[/h4]
Here comes a more radical deal: Hideki Matsui to the Dodgers for Andruw Jones. Why would the Dodgers do that? Well, anything that gets Jones out the door would be beneficial. He wasn't just bad. He was historically awful last season. In Matt Kemp, the Dodgers have the player who already was playing center for them late last season. Matsui is a favorite of Los Angeles manager Joe Torre. On his bad knees, he could not play every day in left. But the Dodgers still have the atrocious contract of Juan Pierre around (he is owed $28.5 million the next three years). Pierre could pinch-run or play defense late in left field for Matsui, plus start 2-3 times a week. If the Dodgers are going to lose Ramirez, Matsui could at least begin to make up for some of the lost offense. Why would the Yankees do that? Right now they are considering playing Gardner or trading for Cameron. If right, Jones offers a lot of the same elements as Cameron: power and strong defense in exchange for too many strikeouts. -- NY Post
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[h4]Red Sox won't alter tack for Mark Teixeira[/h4]
Even this late in the process, there's very little certainty regarding the negotiations for Mark Teixeira. The free agent's final destination is unknown, and so, for that matter, is the timing of the endgame. One major league executive, asked yesterday to estimate when the talks might reach a resolution, quipped: "Toss a dart at any date between now and Christmas." Some believe that the decision is already in the hands of Teixeira and his family; others think agent Scott Boras may still solicit better offers. It's unlikely the Red Sox [team stats] would be drawn into any additional bidding, however, since that would go against both their history and philosophy. Since Theo Epstein was named general manager after the 2002 season, the club has taken a decidedly rational, unemotional approach to contract negotiations. -- Boston Herald
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[h4]Vizquel, Eckstein and Grudz on Padres radar[/h4]
Veteran middle infielders Omar Vizquel, David Eckstein and Mark Grudzielanek are on the Padres' radar to varying degrees, General Manager Kevin Towers said Wednesday, but it's still early. "We've got to keep our options open, and we certainly need middle infield help," Towers said. "We provide opportunity, but to be financially aggressive on players right now, we can't do it. Our hope is that the later we get in free-agent season, there will still be inventory out there and people who need jobs." -- San Diego Union-Tribune
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[h4]BoSox consider Smoltz and Penny?[/h4]
There's also the fifth starter role, where the Red Sox have done their due diligence examining the medical records of John Smoltz and Brad Penny after they studied and passed on A.J. Burnett and Kerry Wood. --Boston Globe
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[h4]Twins still want Cubs DeRosa?[/h4]
Minnesota hasn't lost its appetite for Mark DeRosa but the Cubs would only consider moving him if they got a package of solid prospects, like outfielder Ben Rivere and pitchers Jose Mijares, Jeff Manship and Andy Swarzak. Even then, it's hard to picture Jim Hendry pulling the trigger. -- Chicago Tribune
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[h4]Mets Maine upset with Phillies Cole Hamels?[/h4]
John Maine has a message for the Phillies: Shut up already! The Mets pitcher fired back at the mouthy world champions yesterday, saying he remains puzzled by the barrage of critical comments coming from Cole Hamels and other Phillies in recent weeks. "I don't really care, but I just don't get it," Maine said. "At the end of the year, they won the World Series. Congratulations! Let's focus on the things they accomplished. Don't worry about what's going on up in New York. I mean, I don't get it." Maine was responding mainly to Hamels, the World Series MVP who last week declared the Mets "choke artists" in an interview with WFAN for their ugly collapses each of the past two Septembers. -- NY Post
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[h4]Hank Steinbrenner wants Manny in Bronx?[/h4]
The Yankees continue to monitor the market for Manny Ramirez, but teams are unlikely to begin making offers to the free agent until Mark Teixeira - a fellow Scott Boras client - signs. The Red Sox, Angels and Nationals appear to be the finalists for the first baseman, who is expected to get eight years and approximately $160 million. Hank Steinbrenner is among a group of high-ranking front office officials believed to be pushing to sign Ramirez, according to a source, while Hal Steinbrenner is in the middle. Cashman and Joe Girardi are not sold on adding a player with Ramirez's baggage, the source said, but the Yankees might not be able to resist a player of his talent if the price is right. -- NY Daily News
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[h4]Brewers eye Fuentes and Cabrera[/h4]
Brewers GM Doug Melvin has expressed some interest in free-agent closer Brian Fuentes, but he expected no major moves on the personnel front in the immediate future. Right-hander Daniel Cabrera, who was not tendered a 2009 contract by Baltimore, has piqued Melvin's interest somewhat. "We'll just wait and pursue what we can," said Melvin. "We'd like to have some pitching, but you've got to be careful." -- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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[h4]Phillies' Rollins likely to play in World Baseball Classic[/h4]
Derek Jeter has already been penciled in as the starting shortstop on the United States' entry into this spring's World Baseball Classic. But it's looking as if the Yankees star will have a familiar face backing him up. Phillies shortstop Jimmy Rollins, who was left off the 2006 team in favor of Alex Rodriguez, appears likely to make the squad managed by former Mets skipper Davey Johnson. Phillies Hall of Famer Mike Schmidt, who will coach third base for the U.S., said yesterday that Rollins was on the squad, although Rollins indicated his inclusion was not yet definite. "Well, I have to make the final cut," Rollins said last night following his appearance on HBO's "Costas Now." "I was in this position the last time and Mr. Rodriguez pretty much did it for me. Mr. All-World. It's pretty tough to compete against a guy like that." -- Philadelphia Daily News
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[h4]Rays free agent Rocco Baldelli says new diagnosis should help him play more regularly[/h4]
A new diagnosis of a less severe and treatable condition has given free agent outfielder Rocco Baldelli confidence he could soon return to playing "much more" regularly. Baldelli missed most of last season, was limited after his August return to the Rays and faced an uncertain future due to extreme muscle fatigue that was eventually diagnosed as a mitochondrial disorder. But doctors at the Cleveland Clinic have since reviewed more sophisticated testing that indicates his condition is a channelopathy, and with an increased dosage of medicine he is currently using with good results, Baldelli is optimistic about his health and his baseball career. "It's definitely an encouraging development," Baldelli said Wednesday from his Rhode Island home. "Knowing this is a treatable condition, I feel this is a very positive thing for me and my baseball career. With this less severe diagnosis, I hope to be on the field on a much more regular basis." A half-dozen others have expressed interest, including the Red Sox, Yankees, Reds and Phillies. -- St. Petersburg Times
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[h4]Braves won't deal with Furcal's agent anymore?[/h4]
Agent Paul Kinzer acknowledged he told the Braves on Monday night they were the favorites to land his client but denied a deal was in place. The Braves evidently thought otherwise. "I do know we reached an agreement with Rafael's representative on Monday night," Braves General Manager Frank Wren said in an interview with WIFN-FM in Macon, Ga. Wren said he faxed Kinzer a term sheet at Kinzer's request. "It was bound from our side," Wren said. "We had signed it." But Kinzer told The Times on Tuesday he wanted to give the Dodgers a final chance to re-sign Furcal, something of which Wren said he was unaware. The Dodgers improved their offer and Wren said that on Tuesday night, he received a call from Kinzer asking him if the Braves would improve theirs. Wren said they wouldn't. "We had an agreement," Wren said he told Kinzer. When WIFN talk show host Bill Shanks prefaced a question by saying that he knew Wren couldn't burn bridges with Kinzer and Tellem, Wren interjected, "That bridge is gone. I don't have to worry about burning it. The bridge is gone." Kinzer's credibility became a question even for the Dodgers. According to team sources, Colletti was unsure of what to make of the apparent progress he was making in the negotiations. -- LA Times
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[h4]Cameron likely to stay with Brewers[/h4]
Brewers GM Doug Melvin said the primary motive in looking to trade Mike Cameron was to gain some financial flexibility to shop for pitching help. But Melvin said that didn't mean he'd look for another suitor for Cameron. "I'm not necessarily shopping him," said Melvin. "The Yankees had expressed interest. The only reason to do it was to regain some flexibility to pursue pitching. But the good pitching is drying up anyway. "I'm very happy to have Mike Cameron as our centerfielder. He was very productive for us last season. He's a good player, a team player. There's a reason why he's in the playoffs all the time. I'm very fond of him." -- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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[h4]Source: Yanks not chatting with Manny's agent[/h4]
The possibility that Manny Ramirez becomes a Yankee isn't out of the question. But in order for it to happen, a whole lot of talking has to go on between the club and agent Scott Boras. "It's not impossible, but there haven't been a lot of discussions," a source said. "Right now they aren't talking." -- NY Post
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[h4]Halos Teixeira wants to stay on the East Coast?[/h4]
One of the GMs indicated that to his knowledge Mark Teixeira "wants to stay on the East Coast," where his family prefers to live, which means the Angels might need a miracle and/or the best offer to keep him. -- Boston Globe
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[h4]Mets manager wants Oliver Perez back?[/h4]
GM Omar Minaya doesn't know which free-agent starting pitcher the Mets will sign, but manager Jerry Manuel today made it clear he would like to have Oliver Perez back in orange and blue. "I like Oliver Perez," Manuel told reporters at the press conference introducing Francisco Rodriguez. "I think Perez is a guy that matured in our presence. I think he showed some consistency. I like the fact that when things got tough, he was very good for us. From a manager's point of view, I would like to have Oliver Perez back. Whether that's economically possible or not - that's not my department." -- NY Post
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[h4]Red Sox could be stuck with Lowell?[/h4]
If and when the Red Sox do obtain Mark Teixeira, the next hard part would be dealing with the Mike Lowell fallout. The Red Sox would likely spin Lowell to another team once the classy third baseman starts showing he's healthy in spring training, but the awkward nature of the situation is troubling. Lowell has two years remaining on his deal for $24 million. The late date in which he would be traded (March) is not a time when teams have a lot of money to spend, so it would appear Boston would have to eat some of it. Or they could persuade Lowell to stay and work into a rotation, especially if they feel David Ortiz's wrist isn't 100 percent. -- Boston Globe
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[h4]Source: No offers from Yanks to Manny, Teixeira[/h4]
Despite speculation to the contrary, the Yankees are not "all in" on Manny Ramirez or Mark Teixeira. The Yankees have not ruled out adding Ramirez or Teixeira, but they have yet to make an offer to either slugger. In fact, one person familiar with the Yankees' thinking said the baseball operations people have not even discussed Ramirez at any length. They have talked about Teixeira, but he might be too costly after adding CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett. "We're monitoring the situation, but we have not made an offer," a team source said. "We may not make an offer. If the money gets too rich, then we won't." -- Newsday
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[h4]http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/12/18/red_sox_youkilis_talk_deal/]Red Sox, Youkilis talk deal[/url][/h4]
The Red Sox and infielder Kevin Youkilis have taken initial steps toward a possible long-term contract extension, said Joe Bick, the agent who represents Youkilis. "We've had some what I would term early-stage conversations," Bick said. "That's really where it is. To predict which way it's going to go at this point in time would be pretty tough to do." Youkilis, Bick said, would be comfortable repeating what he did last offseason: avoid arbitration and sign a one-year contract. Youkilis, who will turn 30 in March, has a little more than four years of major league service time, meaning he will be able to file for free agency for the first time after the 2010 season. -- Boston Globe
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[h4]http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/12/a-move-to-regre.html]Cubs interested in pitcher from Taiwan?[/url][/h4]
The Cubs are rumored to have an interest in Fu-Te Ni, a left-handed pitcher who became a free agent when his Taiwan team, the Chinabank Whales, disbanded. Seattle, Minnesota, Detroit and Atlanta are listed as other possible suitors for Ni, who would have to prove himself in the minor leagues. -- Chicago Tribuine
[h4]http://www.nypost.com/seven/12182008/sports/yankees/little_manny_chatter_144713.htm]Jeter: A-Rod hasn't said with he picked Dominican team[/url][/h4]
Derek Jeter went on XM Radio yesterday and was asked about Alex Rodriguez playing for the Dominican Republic during the World Baseball Classic. "Everyone doesn't have that option. I know it was tough for him the first time around making that decision and I'm sure it was tough this time around, too," he said. "I don't think he's addressed his reasons for it so we'll let him do that first, but it's a good spot for him to be in." -- NY Post
[h4]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/sports/baseball/18mets.html?ref=sports]Mets monitor Wolf, Redding and Cabrera[/url][/h4]
Unless Derek Lowe's price tag drops, the Mets will bypass him and try to re-sign Oliver P�rez, who received endorsements Wednesday from Manuel, Maine and Pelfrey. Minaya has spoken a few times since the winter meetings with Scott Boras, who represents P�rez and Lowe. Minaya is also monitoring another free agent, Randy Wolf, as well as Tim Redding and Daniel Cabrera, who were not tendered contracts for next season. -- NY Times
[h4]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08353/935944-13.stm?cmpid=pirates.xml]Pirates near multiyear deal with Doumit[/url][/h4]
The Pirates are on the verge of signing catcher Ryan Doumit to a multiyear extension, and it could happen within the week, according to a source directly involved in the negotiations. But negotiations with another core player, center fielder Nate McLouth, have gone much differently, with agent Mike Nicotera last night confirming that the chance of achieving a multiyear extension is "close to dead." The parties now are working on a basic one-year contract, the type most commonly arranged for players eligible for salary arbitration. "There's a pretty stark difference between how we evaluate what Nate has done and what we believe his future will be, and their evaluation of that in terms of placing a dollar value on it," Nicotera said. "When that's the case, it's very difficult to reach an agreement." -- Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
[h4]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.orioles18dec18,0,337130.story]MacPhail says O's bid for Teixeira could go up[/url][/h4]
Although the Orioles have not raised their initial offer to free-agent first baseman and Maryland native Mark Teixeira, the possibility remains that they will, according to the club's top official. "We have indicated before that we have flexibility," Orioles president Andy MacPhail said yesterday. "I don't think anyone expects [Teixeira's agent, Scott Boras] to lean over and accept the first proposal." MacPhail does not provide the specifics of any free-agent proposal, but it is believed that last week the Orioles offered a seven-year contract worth $140 million to $150 million to Teixeira, 28, who grew up in Severna Park. It is lower than the reported offers Teixeira has received from the Los Angeles Angels, Washington Nationals and Boston Red Sox. -- Baltimore Sun
[h4]http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-18-mitchelldec18,0,7229973.column]Sandberg takes next step to majors[/url][/h4]
Ryne Sandberg is taking another step toward his goal of becoming a major-league manager. The Hall of Fame second baseman was named manager of the Cubs' Double-A affiliate, the Tennessee Smokies, on Wednesday after spending the last two seasons managing the Class-A Peoria Chiefs. "First things first. Just learn along the way. That's the way I've been taking this thing," Sandberg said. "I want to learn, I want to be good at it. Like the players, I hope one day to be at the major-league level. That's kind of all of our goals in the minor leagues. I'm no different than the players." -- Chicago Tribune
Originally Posted by CP1708
WildKYcat, you have anywhere who exactly the Pads were looking for that broke our deal down?
I know at one point I saw names like Marshall, and Cedeno and a couple other minor leaguers, who was it that the Cubs called off talks for?
Because, if we are stupid enough to hold out, and Boston walks in and gets him just like that, then I'll truly know the reason why we're 100 years and counting.
Stringer, maybe you know, you follow the Cubs as much as any of us.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Dodgers stepped up and offered it.Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
What team is dumb and desperate enough to offer Oliver Perez a 5 year deal?