The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- Adesanya v Costa SAT 9/26 @5PM on PPV

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There’s no timeouts though no matter what herb or the doc wanted, it’s literally in their power to stop the fight if that’s the case

calling a timeout is really unfair to brunson

It is also the ref and doctors jobs to protect the fighter. I don’t see how they served either fighter in that situation lol
 
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Edmund shouldn't have let him back out there in the third but he saw his last shot at relevance about to go down the drain.
That’s why there’s checks and balances. Herb should have called it the doctor should have called it. The worst thing anyone could do in that situation is to try to let shahbazyn recover and potentially screw brunson

see: yoel romero vs Kennedy
 
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That’s why there’s checks and balances. Herb should have called it the doctor should have called it. The worst thing anyone could do in that situation is to try to let shahbazyn recover and potentially screw brunson

see: yoel romero vs Kennedy
Agreed. Dr should have been called in end of round 2 not when round 3 is just about to start.
 
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Let me clarify I know refs stop fights to check cuts but even those timeouts generally go very quickly

the doc was in there having a pep talk with him lol
 
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Don't see the problem with the "timeout"

Ref can bring in the doctor at any time, they just wanted to make sure he was still there "neurologically" which he was
 
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Don't see the problem with the "timeout"

Ref can bring in the doctor at any time, they just wanted to make sure he was still there "neurologically" which he was
In between rounds the doctor could have came in right when he sat down. But they waited until the allotted time and then called a timeout to call him in... and then checked on him for quite a while

If you need to check on a fighter that long you should more than likely call the fight. Hate to agree with Dana but he was right— brunson shouldn’t Potentially be penalized for putting the beating on him
 
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youre not wrong.... at all

but theres no stopwatch or running clock. We are on The Drs time as soon as he enters... he took mad long and purposely looked at Shabazs corner. They all wanted to save him

theres needs to be some unwritten, unspoken rule between the fighter and the corner if these guys arnt going to actually respect their fighters well being. Any good corner soesnt let him get up for the third. make up any excuse in the book. he was spent and beatdown

like i said, thats legit career altering. you dont get that invincibility confidence back
 
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youre not wrong.... at all

but theres no stopwatch or running clock. We are on The Drs time as soon as he enters... he took mad long and purposely looked at Shabazs corner. They all wanted to save him

theres needs to be some unwritten, unspoken rule between the fighter and the corner if these guys arnt going to actually respect their fighters well being. Any good corner soesnt let him get up for the third. make up any excuse in the book. he was spent and beatdown

like i said, thats legit career altering. you dont get that invincibility confidence back
I agree with this post it was a little of everyone’s fault imo. But again that’s why there’s checks and balances, if one side messes up there’s two other sides who can come in and make the call

the bottom line is you don’t want to potentially screw brunson who didn’t do anything wrong
 
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It's not the doctors job to call the fight based on giving up

Maybe herb could have asked him if he wanted to continue, but for all we know maybe he did, I don't know
 
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As a viewer, I feel like he gave up mentally in the last few seconds of the first round, but he also went through all the motions of sitting down, standing back up, etc. And I don't think you can just ignore that as a ref

As for doctors judging mental toughness, Id rather leave that in the hands of the ref rather than a doc just calling it straight up the way they can with cuts/vision

It isn’t the doctors job? I’m pretty sure they can say he isn’t fit to continue right.. or else why would he be called in to begin with
to make sure he wasnt suffering from a concussion which he wasnt
 
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Nah he still came out the start of 2nd round trying to pour it on Brunson and throwing heavy shots. It was about midway when Brunson repeatedly got him in the clinch or TD when Shahbazyan looked out of it mentally and physically. Herb could've called it the very last seconds of the 2nd honestly and it kinda looked like he was contemplating on doing so but then just waited for the round to be over. I think Okamoto pointed that out in a tweet last night too and it did stick out. Herb second guessed himself and that can be very dangerous for a fighter.
 
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Goes back to the time factor. Of course there isn’t some black and white deadline but when’s the last time you saw a doctor talk to a fighter that long let alone after the allotted time between rounds

If it takes you that long to make a determination it seems like letting him go back out is weird
 
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Hopefully for Shahbazyen, this doesn't damage his confidence. Cause the kid is talented as hell. If things were to get ugly again his next fight I hope he'd be able to put his friendships to the side in terms of his management and coach.
 
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not a good look for Shabazian

dude melted in there, he did not want to go back out there the 3rd.....

my guy was laying on his back accepting his death at the end of the 2nd.

yikes

bobby green 8)

That randy brown fight was tuff to watch, he didn't belong in there with vicente
 
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He definitely looked defeated at the end of the second. I agree. Herb should’ve done it in between rounds.

Like Brunson done rang his bell. If they feared for his safety, call it. No reason for the kid to take unnecessary damage. But on the other hand, like it was mentioned. Tim Kennedy had Romero on the ropes. And Stool Gate allowed him to recover and do one of his explosive presses.

Brown didn’t adjust to the calf kicks. Being one dimensional can be bad for your health in the cage. He was starting to find his groove a lil but that knee took all the wind out of his sail.
 
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Damnit herb, first you semi waved it, and then you permitted extra time. Just call the damn fight off. Herb calling time out is so outta the rule book. Herb knows better than that, that’s an automatic loss, it’s unfair that Edmen got an extra 20-30secs to recover; he was so unsure about getting back in there. The kid is god damn 22 years old! Let him live to fight another day.
Honestly I was so confused cuz he brought the doc in but told the the doc to let them deal with their fighter first, so what’s the point of bringing the doc in if he he’s not able to assess during the break? So unfair to Brunson, herb def playing in the company’s favor in trying to build a hype machine in Edmen. Good thing Brunson played the whole fight smart, love his rebirth. I honestly thought he was gonna lose but I was surprised at his adjustment and patience and eventually won me over with his profound approach.
 
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Totally forgot Weidman was on this weekend's Fight Night. Don't know much about the guy he's fighting, saw he had a 3 fight win streak so they are likely trying to get Weidman a dub against some middle of the pack guy and potentially a highlight so he can slowly try to work back up again. Crazy how Chris lost 5 out of his last 6 and almost lost to Kelvin during that time.
 
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Seen this dude on IG mocking COVID and defending the FL governor. I so wanted to like and root for him too. Oh well.
Seen paul felder supporting and laughing at that post lol

Honestly the covid conspiracy **** isn’t as bad as the trump support but we had to expect he’d be on that side on the issue as well lol

Theres other sides to covid that are worth discussion. Supporting trump is inexcusable
 
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Listened to that Lebatard interview with Masvidal. You can legit hear how hurt Dan is finding out bout Masvidal views

Can't believe how DEEP down the rabbit hole Cannonier is. Potential to get ugly if he wins that title and just goes all out with his platform.
 
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