Sasuke got his MS by killing itachi and feeling that pain. He got EMS by transplanting the eyes, homeboy.
i just re read chapters 559 and 560 (where madara makes his entrance) and a lot of this seems to make sense now, but those two chapters just opened up a whole other can of worms for me. like this whole "golden age" deal. i want to know more about that now. and those two chapters (as well as those spoilers) seemed to prove to me that madara did not die in the valley of the end. i want to know when he did die now and how he died, as well as what he was doing that caused him to awaken the rinnengan right before his death. my brain is going crazy right now.
I still don't believe that's Obito though.
Edit: add 561 to that list. that chapter just added more fuel to the fire.
561 made it seem to me that it was madara's plan to get revived. hmm...
But hey, anything is possible right. and powerful enough to get the 9 tails under control. Looking at Sasuke we can infer the similarity of what hatred can do to someone. Dead their feelings and attack someone that was once close to them. You can tell it wasn't Madara, simple fact that he has an EMS and most likely would have destroyed the 4th.
That's what I'M saying. Obito supposedly died (a weak *** ninja at the time) and then a year later he has the power to control Kurama? Like really? And dude grew like a foot tooI just hope they make anime episodes or pre-Naruto. I wanna Madara in his prime.
I mean they spent a whole chapter on Obito, his name is even in the title....to say that it isn't him next week? That's some inception type ****, the troll within a trollBut hey, anything is possible right.
It's interesting though, it seems that Madara wasn't expecting to be revived, well at least not yet. I would like to know what the original plan was.
But by the time Obito fought the 4th, was about 14-16....big for his age I guessand powerful enough to get the 9 tails under control. Looking at Sasuke we can infer the similarity of what hatred can do to someone. Dead their feelings and attack someone that was once close to them. You can tell it wasn't Madara, simple fact that he has an EMS and most likely would have destroyed the 4th.
I knew it. For me it makes sense though. Kishi def have a better story to back it up why all this happened, how he got stronger, etc.
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Spoilers/speculation of possible future explanations/chapters
Copypasta from another forum, not mine
Tobi is Obito
Obito gave his eye to Kakashi and they were told to run, leaving Obito to die
Obito passed out
Obito was saved by Madara Uchiha at The Battle of Kannabi Bridge
After Obito woke up, Madara had already attended to his wounds, his eye sack, from which his eye to Kakashi was torn out, is shown to be sewn, and his right eye intact, although his right side of the face seems to be bruised a lot
Obito was burried in Konoha with an empty grave
Madara became Obito's mentor
Obito was brainwashed in the long run into accepting Madaras ideals
Madara was the one to come up with Tsuki No Me
Madara was the one to attack Konoha 16 years ago, wearing the mask
Madara died after unlocking Rinnegan (is not explained how he done it) and overusing it by accident
Obito became Tobi
His mission was to carry out Madaras plan
He was given all the information that Madara possessed, thus the extent of knowledge Tobi has about everything
He was trained by Madara
Actually plausible plot, a lot better than Obito got jealous of some girl and decided to plot against entire world. Hell if that were actual case, they might as well make Sasuke turn face again and marry Sakura making Naruto turning heel and going on a kyuubi rampage mode.
Real Madara also refered to Tobi as "him" when he found out he was impersonating him, so that definitely connects the two as it seems he basically instantly figured who was doing that.
nagato was born with the rinnegan. it awoken when people killed his parents during the war.
That's what I'M saying. Obito supposedly died (a weak *** ninja at the time) and then a year later he has the power to control Kurama? Like really? And dude grew like a foot too
I just hope they make anime episodes or pre-Naruto. I wanna Madara in his prime.
I mean they spent a whole chapter on Obito, his name is even in the title....to say that it isn't him next week? That's some inception type ****, the troll within a troll
It's interesting though, it seems that Madara wasn't expecting to be revived, well at least not yet. I would like to know what the original plan was.
But by the time Obito fought the 4th, was about 14-16....big for his age I guess
Madara Uchiha's middle name must be Hyperbolic Time Chamber in order for that to be pulled off.
but we'll just have to wait and see
could have been a figure of speech. maybe madara taught nagato how to fully utilize the rinnegan's power. wouldn't make sense for madara to literally give his own eyes to some random kid. remember it definitely wasn't tobi that gave eyes to nagato as obito wasn't alive when nagato awoken the rinnegantobi said he gave it to him though
No other Uzumaki had the Rinnegan tho. If Nagato was born with it, then he must be related to the Sage. In which case so is Naruto. In which case Naruto will unlock the rinnegan too eventually.could have been a figure of speech. maybe madara taught nagato how to fully utilize the rinnegan's power. wouldn't make sense for madara to literally give his own eyes to some random kid. remember it definitely wasn't tobi that gave eyes to nagato as obito wasn't alive when nagato awoken the rinnegantobi said he gave it to him though
Well, in the flashback the tailed beasts had (where we saw baby Kurama
) the sage said something along the lines that naruto was gonna inherit his powers and the powers of the beasts.
