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the way i see it... prop 19 is better than nothing. we can make changes as we go but right now its a good starting point. if people dont vote this in who knows when the next possibility will be.Originally Posted by Futuristic
DING DING DINGOriginally Posted by akaValentino
quick reply before I dip out for class:
primarily it's because it's funded and ran by a few MJ activist who have made good money in the industry who now want to have a monopoly operating in Oakland.
many tobacco big wigs have already investing in property and copyrighting cannabis slang in preparation if Proposition does pass. These are the same people who
use extra additives into cigarettes to gain the effects your receive, what makes you think they won't do the same to cut costs in the production of marijuana?
also because of the stricter laws that will be enforced if you're smoking with, distributing, or plain ol' burning up a doobie in front of an individual under 21.
the proposition is just poorly written were it leaves so much room for local authority to govern however they feel is necessary within that given time and
within the certain parameters of a city who allows it, and a city where they don't.
here is an excerpt from Wikipedia of Prop 19 Authorization and Civil Penalties:
-- Every person 18 years of age or older who hires, employs, or uses a minor in transporting, carrying, selling, giving away marijuana, or knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to
someone under the age of 14, shall be imprisoned in state prison for a period of three, five, or seven years.
-- Every person 18 years of age or older who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone older than the age of 14 but younger than 18,
shall be imprisoned in the state prison for a period of three, four, or five years.
-- Every person 21 years of age or over who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone older than the age of 18 but younger than 21,
shall be imprisoned in county jail for up to six months and fined up to $1,000 per offense.
pretty messed up right? Most legal experts agree that Prop 19 is poorly written and will leave police and judges to enforce it at their discretion. For example, consuming
cannabis would be illegal in the same "space" as a minor. Police and judges are free to interpret the word "space" to mean the same room, house, or entire apartment complex.
the hell does all that mean? you can get arrested for having a blunt at a show now... AHHH %!@$ THAT!
the way i see it... prop 19 is better than nothing. we can make changes as we go but right now its a good starting point. if people dont vote this in who knows when the next possibility will be.Originally Posted by Futuristic
DING DING DINGOriginally Posted by akaValentino
quick reply before I dip out for class:
primarily it's because it's funded and ran by a few MJ activist who have made good money in the industry who now want to have a monopoly operating in Oakland.
many tobacco big wigs have already investing in property and copyrighting cannabis slang in preparation if Proposition does pass. These are the same people who
use extra additives into cigarettes to gain the effects your receive, what makes you think they won't do the same to cut costs in the production of marijuana?
also because of the stricter laws that will be enforced if you're smoking with, distributing, or plain ol' burning up a doobie in front of an individual under 21.
the proposition is just poorly written were it leaves so much room for local authority to govern however they feel is necessary within that given time and
within the certain parameters of a city who allows it, and a city where they don't.
here is an excerpt from Wikipedia of Prop 19 Authorization and Civil Penalties:
-- Every person 18 years of age or older who hires, employs, or uses a minor in transporting, carrying, selling, giving away marijuana, or knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to
someone under the age of 14, shall be imprisoned in state prison for a period of three, five, or seven years.
-- Every person 18 years of age or older who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone older than the age of 14 but younger than 18,
shall be imprisoned in the state prison for a period of three, four, or five years.
-- Every person 21 years of age or over who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone older than the age of 18 but younger than 21,
shall be imprisoned in county jail for up to six months and fined up to $1,000 per offense.
pretty messed up right? Most legal experts agree that Prop 19 is poorly written and will leave police and judges to enforce it at their discretion. For example, consuming
cannabis would be illegal in the same "space" as a minor. Police and judges are free to interpret the word "space" to mean the same room, house, or entire apartment complex.
the hell does all that mean? you can get arrested for having a blunt at a show now... AHHH %!@$ THAT!
thanks man imma check this outOriginally Posted by TeamJordan79
one of the best docs regarding the subject:
http://topdocumentaryfilm...time-for-a-conversation/
thanks man imma check this outOriginally Posted by TeamJordan79
one of the best docs regarding the subject:
http://topdocumentaryfilm...time-for-a-conversation/
is keeping the corporate influence out of it worth all the money used to house people jailed for marijuana though?Originally Posted by MaZA4eVeR14
I'm holding off on my medical evaluation until after the elections, but I've come to the realization that I should probably vote no on prop 19. Having it decriminalized was a HUGE step in itself.
Keep it home grown and local. We don't need the corporate influence and the extra laws that will come with prop 19.
is keeping the corporate influence out of it worth all the money used to house people jailed for marijuana though?Originally Posted by MaZA4eVeR14
I'm holding off on my medical evaluation until after the elections, but I've come to the realization that I should probably vote no on prop 19. Having it decriminalized was a HUGE step in itself.
Keep it home grown and local. We don't need the corporate influence and the extra laws that will come with prop 19.
The penalties look like they'd stay the same, except for an increase in the fine.Originally Posted by Tfromthe617
for those of you interested in the marijuana laws for your state
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516
good thread
The penalties look like they'd stay the same, except for an increase in the fine.Originally Posted by Tfromthe617
for those of you interested in the marijuana laws for your state
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516
good thread
Because. Right now the power is in the hands of the growers. Growers are people. People demand less money than corporations. Growers are happy with what they're doing and what they're making right now. And what they're making in the Bay at least, makes me quite happy.Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos
All I want to know is, why are many pot smokers here on NT opposed to the proposition.
In detailed response please, so I can show my friends who do chief
Because. Right now the power is in the hands of the growers. Growers are people. People demand less money than corporations. Growers are happy with what they're doing and what they're making right now. And what they're making in the Bay at least, makes me quite happy.Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos
All I want to know is, why are many pot smokers here on NT opposed to the proposition.
In detailed response please, so I can show my friends who do chief