The Official NBA Collective Bargaining Thread vol Phased in Hard Cap

[mytoasterspeak]

I'd be shocked if they get something done. And look at the big stars showing up when the season is in jeopardy. What a joke. They should have been there from the beginning, they're only there now because of their image. I hope the owners don't give in. These players are too arrogant and cocky. The NBA ain't even basketball no more, it has evolved into something else.

 

[mytoasterspeak]

I'd be shocked if they get something done. And look at the big stars showing up when the season is in jeopardy. What a joke. They should have been there from the beginning, they're only there now because of their image. I hope the owners don't give in. These players are too arrogant and cocky. The NBA ain't even basketball no more, it has evolved into something else.

 

[uptownsdotnetstacky]

Them boys are dressed like some damn fools

 

[uptownsdotnetstacky]

Them boys are dressed like some damn fools

 

[big j 33]

Meeting just let out.. players going first with their own press conference, not a good sign if they're not together.

 

[big j 33]

Meeting just let out.. players going first with their own press conference, not a good sign if they're not together.

 

[big j 33]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Adrian Wojnarowski: Fisher: "we find ourselves where we expected to be: a lockout that may jeopardize a part, or our whole season..."

Jonathan Abrams: Derek Fisher: "Today was not the day to get this done." Said rest of preseason will probably be cancelled soon as well as start of season

Adrian Wojnarowski: Fisher: players offered over a billion dollars over 6 years of deal by dropping BRI to 53 percent.

Alan Hahn: Fisher says union not expecting meeting tomorrow, not sure when next meeting will be


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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Marc Berman: Fisher said owners made move from 46 t0 47 percent in last proposal and wasn't a big enough move for players
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Chris Mannix: [/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Hunter says players willing to transfer $200 million per year back to owners

Adrian Wojnarowski: Hunter on next meeting: "Maybe a month...Maybe two months..." He said it simply hadn't been scheduled.



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[big j 33]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Adrian Wojnarowski: Fisher: "we find ourselves where we expected to be: a lockout that may jeopardize a part, or our whole season..."

Jonathan Abrams: Derek Fisher: "Today was not the day to get this done." Said rest of preseason will probably be cancelled soon as well as start of season

Adrian Wojnarowski: Fisher: players offered over a billion dollars over 6 years of deal by dropping BRI to 53 percent.

Alan Hahn: Fisher says union not expecting meeting tomorrow, not sure when next meeting will be


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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Marc Berman: Fisher said owners made move from 46 t0 47 percent in last proposal and wasn't a big enough move for players
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Chris Mannix: [/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Hunter says players willing to transfer $200 million per year back to owners

Adrian Wojnarowski: Hunter on next meeting: "Maybe a month...Maybe two months..." He said it simply hadn't been scheduled.



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[you big dummy]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher: "today was not the day to get this done. Not able to get close enough to close the gap."
5 minutes ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher: "we find ourselves where we expected to be: a lockout that may jeopardize a part, or our whole season..."
4 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher: players offered over a billion dollars over 6 years of deal by dropping BRI to 53 percent.
4 minutes ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher standing with Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ben Gordon in press conference.
2 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher said owners moved from 46 percent to 47 percent on BRI. "Today was not the day to continue to close that gap..."
2 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "Fifty three is our position. We were never inclined to come out of 50's and they were never inclined to come up..."
1 minute ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter on next meeting: "Maybe a month...Maybe two months..." He said it simply hadn't been scheduled.
1 minute ago


WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter says owners revenue sharing plan would take three years to fully kick in.

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter on union decertification: "Something we have to give some thought to..."

4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "I think they tried to make a deal -- on their terms."

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "As of this moment, we've broken off the negotiations..." Now it's up to one side to pick up phone and set up another.

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

 

[you big dummy]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher: "today was not the day to get this done. Not able to get close enough to close the gap."
5 minutes ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher: "we find ourselves where we expected to be: a lockout that may jeopardize a part, or our whole season..."
4 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher: players offered over a billion dollars over 6 years of deal by dropping BRI to 53 percent.
4 minutes ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher standing with Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ben Gordon in press conference.
2 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Fisher said owners moved from 46 percent to 47 percent on BRI. "Today was not the day to continue to close that gap..."
2 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "Fifty three is our position. We were never inclined to come out of 50's and they were never inclined to come up..."
1 minute ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter on next meeting: "Maybe a month...Maybe two months..." He said it simply hadn't been scheduled.
1 minute ago


WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter says owners revenue sharing plan would take three years to fully kick in.

54 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter on union decertification: "Something we have to give some thought to..."

4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "I think they tried to make a deal -- on their terms."

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "As of this moment, we've broken off the negotiations..." Now it's up to one side to pick up phone and set up another.

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

 

[al3xis]

I said after this past year ended and I still just can't believe people can be this dumb. You have your best product in over a decade and now you want to throw it all away.

I do NOT blame the players at all, they seem willing to compromise. Owners are not.


potentially Taking one of the final years away from guys like: Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Nash etc and a prime year from LeBron, Dwight, Rose, Melo, Kd, etc is shameful.

Only hardcore fans will return if this thing goes anywhere into February or beyond and I don't blame anyone who (again) has no interest in the NBA.

 

[al3xis]

I said after this past year ended and I still just can't believe people can be this dumb. You have your best product in over a decade and now you want to throw it all away.

I do NOT blame the players at all, they seem willing to compromise. Owners are not.


potentially Taking one of the final years away from guys like: Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Nash etc and a prime year from LeBron, Dwight, Rose, Melo, Kd, etc is shameful.

Only hardcore fans will return if this thing goes anywhere into February or beyond and I don't blame anyone who (again) has no interest in the NBA.

 

[dmbrhs]

Originally Posted by you big dummy

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "I think they tried to make a deal -- on their terms."

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

I wonder what Billy Hunter will say in two months when they do make a deal that is on the owners' terms, and it's far worse for the players.

 

[dmbrhs]

Originally Posted by you big dummy

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Hunter: "I think they tried to make a deal -- on their terms."

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

I wonder what Billy Hunter will say in two months when they do make a deal that is on the owners' terms, and it's far worse for the players.

 

[jello b afro]

david stern is the worst person

such a bloodsucker

 

[jello b afro]

david stern is the worst person

such a bloodsucker

 

[duba169]

47 is an insult.

If i wasn't an obsessed new yorker I wouldn't ever the NBA again. I despise this league so much. From the superstar calls to the comish to the owners to the whiny out of shape players

 

[duba169]

47 is an insult.

If i wasn't an obsessed new yorker I wouldn't ever the NBA again. I despise this league so much. From the superstar calls to the comish to the owners to the whiny out of shape players

 

[adobecs4]

@Chris_Broussard David Stern just cancelled last 2 weeks of preseason and said on Monday he will "have no choice" but to cancel first 2 weeks of reg season

 

[adobecs4]

@Chris_Broussard David Stern just cancelled last 2 weeks of preseason and said on Monday he will "have no choice" but to cancel first 2 weeks of reg season

 

[sooperhooper]

Stern and the owners just offered a 50/50 deal and the players rejected it. Eff them all.
Preseason has officially been cancelled and if no agreement is met Monday, first two weeks of regular season will follow.
Got this from sportscenter.

 

[sooperhooper]

Stern and the owners just offered a 50/50 deal and the players rejected it. Eff them all.
Preseason has officially been cancelled and if no agreement is met Monday, first two weeks of regular season will follow.
Got this from sportscenter.

 

[duba169]

I read that that 50 50 dint include 300 million off the top. AND that it was discussed privately and never even made it to the table

David stern is not a man you blindly believe what he is saying. He is in full public relations mode

 

[duba169]

I read that that 50 50 dint include 300 million off the top. AND that it was discussed privately and never even made it to the table

David stern is not a man you blindly believe what he is saying. He is in full public relations mode

 

[big j 33]

I'm not in the camp of "Stern is the devil" like some.. but let's remember both sides will present facts in the best way for their cause. So if Stern says the players rejected 50/50 that's going to cause shock by the public at the "greedy players"

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http://twitter.com/#!/RicBucherRicBucher Ric Bucher 

FWIW: 50-50 BRI split sounds fair because splitting anything 50-50 sounds fair. In this case, it's 50-50 of what owners deem to share.

http://twitter.com/#!/RicBucher

http://twitter.com/#!/RicBucher
http://twitter.com/#!/RicBucherRicBucher Ric Bucher 

Example: Let's split a pizza. I'll split four slices with you, 50-50. The other 12 slices? Not pizza. Bruschetta. I keep the bruschetta.

And to be fair, Hunter/Fisher and the players will also spin the truth to make them look the best, so it's not just Stern that's potentially guilty. But it seems as if the 50/50 split wasn't a formal offer by the owners during the meetings.