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How would you grade Season II of "True Detective" ?

  • A

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • B

    Votes: 14 28.0%
  • C

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • D

    Votes: 10 20.0%
  • F

    Votes: 8 16.0%

  • Total voters
    50
Took me a while but I finally placed Hoyt.

Hal in Cliffhanger.

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Figured this was the direction the ending was going in since they pretty much solved the case a few episodes ago...They just gave us the why and how details..This season wasn't really bout a super crazy case with wild twists, but the effect of working the case for decades on the detectives and people around them...Would have liked more details about the characters to end it tho cuz they lead most of the season in certain directions and it aint really payoff...they never really got into Roland's life, how the Amelia died, the issues with Hay's daughter, and any motivations behind the documentary crew...all issues that loomed over the story but we still dont know much
 
Was wondering how Amelia died, was hoping to see a scene.

I am also curious to see why little Lucy did not remember Hays in the last scene, but I do understand she is a little girl...

Lucy gave a look like she did recognize Hays from the convent. But she’s like 8 years old. She wouldn’t have really thought much of it. I guess you can fill in the blanks in the story yourself and infer she’d mention it later to her mom/dad.
 
Among all the other movies/shows Rooker has been in? :lol:

Yes. Cliffhanger was released nearly 26 years ago and I recognized the voice but couldn't place him at first. Only other movie/show I've seen him in was Bone Collector in the late 90's.

Sorry if posting that bothered you.
 
Among all the other movies/shows Rooker has been in? :lol:
Being the resident old head, I actually remember him from Michael Mann's TV show Crime Story & also the old Equalizer TV show. The first movies I remember seeing him was Eight Men Out & Mississippi Burning. I think he was in one of the early Steven Seagal movies to.
 
Yeah I think he ultimately remembered who she was and why he was there, but like you said, decided to let it be.

A theme this season has been telling the truth for your own sake in spite of it hurting the other person. Hays mentioned it to his son when he admitted he had a thing with Eliza, and in the finale Hays also alluded to it when Amelia wanted to know what happened the night she saw him burning his clothes.

Could Hays have solved the case and let the world know? Sure. But that would be for his own benefit. Julie was perfectly happy in life and all outing her would’ve done is upend her “normal” life. Hell, even acknowledging who she really was to her face could’ve sent her into a tailspin of fear and paranoia. I think he did the right thing.

There’s no definitive answer and I’m glad there isn’t but from what we know about the character and story it’s more likely he didn’t remember who she was but her face was familiar to him (if you know anyone with Alzheimer’s they go through this - the person recognizes a face but can’t place where they know it from but have the feeling that it belongs to someone very important to them.)

From what we know about Hays, and especially because he and Roland had that whole conversation about how they still wanted closure - he would have at the very least told Roland what he’d found. Considering he didn’t want to help the documentary anymore he probably wouldn’t have given his son that address either and told him it was the only reason he was there.

I think the writers want us to think of it like this:
There’s this guy who is a professional tracker and he’s spent the majority of his life looking for this lost girl who doesn’t know who she is and has all these fragmented memories of her life before. He unconsciously finds her but by the time he does, he’s the one who is forgetting who he was and is, and by then the girl has clearly found herself (probably with Mike Ardoine’s help) and ends up, in his time of need and desperation, helping the man who spent his life trying to save her find what’s really important to him (his friends and family.)
 
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So Mike where that mysterious Lawn Service truck comes in? I think someone posted a pic several few pages back.
 
So Mike where that mysterious Lawn Service truck comes in? I think someone posted a pic several few pages back.
Yes they showed his truck a few episodes ago when Amelia talked to that girl at the group home. Then we found out that he had been doing the grounds maintenance there for free in this episode.
 
So Mike where that mysterious Lawn Service truck comes in? I think someone posted a pic several few pages back.

Yeah Mike Ardoine and his dad were working at the convent in 1990 while Julie was in and out of there.

Contrary to what people are saying, him recognizing her between 1990-1995 makes sense too cuz she had just been on the news again and her security cam photo was everywhere.
 
Sorry if posting that bothered you.

No, it didn't bother me at all. It was just sorta random. :lol:
I guess with him having been in so many shows/movies, you could have a wide range of "where have I seen him?"
Six Degrees of Michael Rooker?
 
I don’t think hays forgot. He just chose to not ruin Julie’s current life with a case that has ruined parts of his life
 
I’m just laughing at how all the tinfoil cult theories got disproved again as they have the last two seasons and all you dudes are tight again. Cats were really like “I think Amelia was just a double agent planted in Hays’s life by Hoyt to figure out what the investigation knows!” :lol:

This blows my mind. Instead of taking what was given to you and seeing the art in it, dudes really want the show to fit THEIR narrative.

The case was solved last week and the details were pretty much laid out right before our eyes, but dudes didn’t want to believe that it could be so simple. Junius basically confirmed what we already knew and cats are mad that the answers were so mundane? Just seems weird to me.

And I gotta say, Nic throwing in Eliza was a complete troll job to all the conspiracy theorist dudes. She was essentially a stand-in for the wild conspiracy folks. But in the end, her tireless efforts led to absolutely nothing and literally did nothing to help solve the case. Much like all the theories. :lol:


People don't know how to just watch TV anymore :lol:

Like, I don't care what you think is going to happen. Or what you want to happen, or what you wish happened. I just want to see good TV. That's it. Everybody thinks they're a damn professional TV/Movie critic, these days.


The acting this season was incredible, and each episode I was left anxious to see what happens in the next. The story itself didn't have too many crazy twists, but the story itself was great. They did a good job for the most part of telling it over 3 different time periods.


I don’t think hays forgot. He just chose to not ruin Julie’s current life with a case that has ruined parts of his life

This is how I initially saw it. But you guys thinking that he forgot is making me rethink :lol:
 
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Ok?

Like most police cars do..



Trippin


I posted about it because I never saw them before. When in the season did they say Hank was a cop?

edit: I must have missed where they referenced to him being a cop. my bad
 
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Need Season 4 info

Nic speaking with Entertainment Weekly back in early Jan:
Yeah, and it’s wild. It’s really, really wild. Where do you even go after this [season]? I just had a lead character who’s 35, 45 and 70 all at the same time and this mystery that has to reach false resolutions and keep going into the future without cheating the audience and all these complicated structural elements. But I have an idea that’s kind of crazy. I think it needs to percolate for a while. I was looking to do another series, maybe a movie, in the meantime, but yeah. I have an idea…

So let’s just hope HBO lets him cook and not rush S4 out.
 
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