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- Jun 24, 2013
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Why try to deflect and say Harris is the max star. We overpaid for him to be the 3rd piece to Ben/Jo
Whos fault is it that Simmons decided to want to be a COD pro and not a basketball player. Harris did what he needed to do, score at a consistent rate. Simmons did not do anything he needed to do and that was shoot a point blank dunk attempt
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Isaiah Joe and Paul Reed
Tobi Is what he is and he does what you need him to do. Simmons hasn’t done anything meaningful and hurts the team more than he helps it. Spacing sucks with him and we can’t keep making everyone around him a spot up shooter. Something has to give
- Dec 1, 2012
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How is that deflecting? He is a max star. Irrespective of Simmons performance, star players are supposed to step up in the playoffs not step down. There’s nothing special about giving ~22 pts on average efficiency as an unspectacular playmaker while fading from big moments. Why are you giving dude a pass?
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I’m not. I’ve said he deserves some blame
there’s a bigger kangaroo in the room that has to be addressed. Moving off Harris ain’t gonna make Simmons any better
Sixers been constantly brining in players to compliment Simmons and the same **** always happens: Simmons doesn’t improve and we’re expecting guys who are at their peak to continue to change their game for Simmons to feel comfortable
that’s the problem. Same goes with Embiid conditioning, maybe he would’nt be so gassed if he didn’t have to carry a 6’10 Aussie on his back every playoffs
- Dec 1, 2012
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Simmons can and should go but Harris is still underperforming contract and expectations. He’s just a floater getting by because there’s a worse contract on his team.
And nah Embiid’s conditioning was more than fine this year. Considering minutes he contributed on a torn meniscus.
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In some ways, Ben and Tobias underperforming are connected. Tobias is best suited to be a number 3 or 4 guy, which is what the Sixers had in mind when they brought him in. But because of Ben’s limitations, he had to be the number 2 offensive option behind Embiid. If Ben was better, Tobias might have been more efficient/effective. But both of them are what they are, which means both not playing to contract expectations.
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I’m not saying his conditioning was bad this year. But there’s a correlation, Simmons isn’t taking any pressure off Embiid so Embiid is doing more and tiring himself out
compared to last year, Tobias has been much better and he’s still technically playing out of position because of Simmons. Tobias likes to operate in the post but he can’t when Simmons wants to stand in the dunkers spot. All I’m saying is that Tobias played up to his contract this season, he had some struggles in the PO but he wasn’t as bad as he was last year. He can still get better and I trust he will compared to Ben
- Jul 18, 2012
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Tobias is overpaid, and you pretty much got what you expect out of him this year. The fact he has a max, yeah he def didnt live up to it, but he shoudnt of gotten that much to begin with.
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All comes down to them being "all-in" but not willing to pay Jimmy Bunyan. Closed their window.
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If even Kemba is an absolute dud and just matching salary, the Sixers can package the picks they get from OKC and a young player or 2 on their roster and get an available star or just try to draft.
If I'm OKC and I get 2 and 7 tomorrow night, I'm absolutely trading 7 and another 1st with Kemba for Ben Simmons.
- Jun 7, 2011
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Tobias is making $40M a year.
He had 4 points in game 5.
24 points on 24 shots tonight.
I’m letting someone else pay him and Ben.
He had 4 points in game 5.
24 points on 24 shots tonight.
I’m letting someone else pay him and Ben.
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I'd rather just draft Scottie Barnes who I can pay $7M instead of Simmons at $35M for similar production.
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I don’t think that’s what happened, is it? Didn’t they want to pay Jimmy but he wanted to go to Miami no matter what
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They didn't offer him the 5th year so he bounced.
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That sounds great but that's not how reality works.
It's not even 50/50 Barnes ever becomes what Ben is now let alone during his rookie contract
- Jun 24, 2013
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Nah, it was basically Brett Brown given the choice of Ben or Jimmy. Brett (and the org) convinced themselves that Ben was the guy
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Jimmy threatened Brett. Ben kept things status quo.
- Dec 1, 2012
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Yeah I knew it was a Ben and Brett thing just didn’t think it was about money. Mistake regardless.
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Taurasi, Bird ans Fowles should step aside. There’s also so much politics on the women’s side
- Mar 31, 2011
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It's Oklahoma City. Build through the draft.
Why do you want Ben Simmons, who has attitude issues, doesn't add more to his game, and literally won't shoot, on THIS CONTRACT on your books?
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Collins looking like hes worth like 20 per again. He’s been good on D surprisingly
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i think they need the bread and publicity
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Who would you replace them with? Particularly, Sue? Vandersloot isn't an option as she represents Hungary.
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I mean they’re going to win every game by 50 anyways. Sabrina and Kelsey Mitchell are great options
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