⭐ OFFICIAL 2020-2021 NBA Off-Season Thread: Olympics begin 7/23; NBA Draft 7/29⭐

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When did it become about talent? You just said top 10 all time. A lot more goes into than just talent.

I was quoting the natural mystic the natural mystic who mentioned that Ewing was more talented than Pippen. I wholeheartedly agree that top 10 of all time is more than just talent. Winning is a huge component might be the most important. Ain’t too many players with 6 rings :nthat:
 
1.) Jordan
2.) Kareem
3.) Magic
4.) Lebron
5.) Bird

(Lebron and Bird can swap places righteously but whatever, Lebron has paid his dues)

6.) Shaq
7.) Kobe
8.) Pippen
9.) KD
10.) Kawhi

@ me let’s talk about it
 
1.) Jordan
2.) Kareem
3.) Magic
4.) Lebron
5.) Bird

(Lebron and Bird can swap places righteously but whatever, Lebron has paid his dues)

6.) Shaq
7.) Kobe
8.) Pippen
9.) KD
10.) Kawhi

@ me let’s talk about it

Is this an all time list? How is Pippen better than KD? I respectfully disagree there.

The dream>>>>Pip
 
1.) Jordan
2.) Kareem
3.) Magic
4.) Lebron
5.) Bird

(Lebron and Bird can swap places righteously but whatever, Lebron has paid his dues)

6.) Shaq
7.) Kobe
8.) Pippen
9.) KD
10.) Kawhi

@ me let’s talk about it

Where the hell is Hakeem in this? Definitely should be ahead of Pip and Kawhi.
 
Is this an all time list? How is Pippen better than KD? I respectfully disagree there.

The dream>>>>Pip

Because Pippen competed and won playing more difficult competition compared to KD. Hakeem played under the basket. He put up the stats but he wasn’t winning against his contemporaries like that. Of course there’s that moment in time when Mike was serving his suspension for gambli…err he retired for a little while and Hakeem was able to win but Pippen was a huge component on the the team that everyone feared

I see a lot of lists and I respect them all, my question is where does Dominque Wilkins fall?

Same with Nique, same with Barkley, same with Ewing. They weren’t winning against their contemporaries. Top 50, top 30 of course. Winning isn’t the end all be all of the convo but you can’t even get in the convo if you haven’t won.
 
Because Pippen competed and won playing more difficult competition compared to KD. Hakeem played under the basket. He put up the stats but he wasn’t winning against his contemporaries like that. Of course there’s that moment in time when Mike was serving his suspension for gambli…err he retired for a little while and Hakeem was able to win but Pippen was a huge component on the the team that everyone feared



Hakeem actually has a winning record against MJ and Pip.
 
Hakeem is this random dark horse people bring up. Y’all know good and well how bigs got down in the 90’s so don’t give me quadruple double talk and his rings got asterisks. Top 15 ok, but I’m taking the guy that a critical piece in a 6x championship run, arguably the most gifted basketball player ever and the guy who took the assignment of prime Lebron in the finals and won over Hakeem
 
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Just off the top of my head:

MJ
Kareem
Shaq
Magic
Kobe
Bird
Duncan
Lebron
KG
Kawhi
KD
Dirk
Mailman
Barkley

I know there's some players I forgot too :lol:
 
Jordan
The Dream
Shaq
Charles
the admiral
Pedo Mailman
Pat Ewing
Penny?
Grant Hill?
Reggie?

I am not sure if I can count Penny and Grant just because of injuries but they were definitely more talented than Pip.

Jordan GOAT
The Dream 7 x All NBA (90's decade)
Shaq 7 x All NBA
Charles 6 x All NBA
the admiral 8 x All NBA
Pedo Mailman 10 x All NBA
Pat Ewing 4 x All NBA
Penny? 3 x All NBA
Grant Hill? 5 x All NBA
Reggie? 3 x All NBA
Pippen 7 x All NBA



Top ten lists are always hard as **** and Pip's basketball card stats often didn't jump off the page but anyone who says Scottie wasn't a Top 10 player in the 90's clearly did not watch the 90's.
 
Lmao nobody puts Tim Duncan in that list ?

Duncan is number 11

Hakeem was definitely better than Pippen. This isn't even a debate.

As great as Scottie was, I'm not even sure he's a top 20 player



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Pippen now arguably the most gifted ever? Yikes.

I was referring to Pippen when I mentioned 6x champion, KD when I mentioned arguably the most gifted ever and Kawhi when I mentioned taking on Prime Lebron assignment in the finals and winning
 
Scottie is very good. Probably somewhere just outside of the top 25 all time.
 
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