🦉The Official Drake Thread6️⃣ - Drake & PND Album Fall 2024

[frankmatthews]

you can keep repeating this. but it just won't make it true.

at the end of his career he will be considered an all time great rapper. it is what it is, no matter how badly you want to go back 1991.

In one post you're saying it's a non-issue because all the rappers are doing it. In the next post you're saying it's not even true lol. Somehow you've determined all these other guys are using ghostwriters based on absolutely nothing, and in the next breath are denying the mountains of evidence that drake has been using them his whole career. The stories you are telling yourself don't even make any sense. You're saying it's clear to you yachty was writing for him and then claiming HE is still an all time great rapper and songwriter. This is why people hate drake stans lol.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

In

 

[Hijo Del Promo]

Taylor Swift, the second best rapper according to Drake released a second album at 2am and she made a diss song towards Kim K called "ThanK you aIMee" (KIM)



Hip Hop is back!

 

[osh kosh bosh]

In one post you're saying it's a non-issue because all the rappers are doing it. In the next post you're saying it's not even true lol.

Lolwut? Where did I say it wasn't true?
The part I said wasn't true. Is "drake will never be considered an a time rapper" this just obviously isn't true.
Many younger people clearly consider him as an all time great rapper. And ultimately their opinions will.carry the day.
No one is going to be writing a book about rap and hip hop music critism and omit drake. That would be idiotic.

You can huff and puff all you but again I'm just telling you reality.


I said it's a non issue because it is a non issue. That's just the reality his most of his peers don't talk about this. It didn't end his career,

I understand this frustrates you but this is just the reality of what happened.


There are drake derangement people like you who are mad it didnt really end his career and are taking out on the rest of us.

Somehow you've determined all these other guys are using ghostwriters based on absolutely nothing, and in the next breath are denying the mountains of evidence that drake has been using them his whole career.

again drake derangement syndrome is hilarious.
Quinten Miller himself recounted the when Drake beef, he said Meek wanted to work with him and that's how the beef started.

The guy who started these ghostwriting accusations was mad that he didn't have access to.drakes ghostwriter.

Q miller continues to work in music, what do you think he's doing?


I'm just telling you the reality of what is happenning and you hate Drake so.much you need imagine a fake version of reality where I said a bunch of stuff I never said, and Santa Clause is real.

You're saying it's clear to you yachty was writing for him and then claiming HE is still an all time great rapper and songwriter. This is why people hate drake stans lol.

Yup, it was obvious Yachty collaborated heavy on some of those songs, and the history books will consider Drake and all time great rapper.


You can cry, seeth, and cope all you want this is what is happening. Just deal with it.

 

[waukeganwill]

Man the ghost writing thing never bothered me as much as it did a lot of other fans. All this **** is entertainment at the end of the day. All I care bout is the finished product. If its hot and I like, then I like it. Im not gonna stop listening to a dope song just cuz it was written by someone else. Funnily enough a lot of my fav songs of his happen to be the ones he got assistance on lol

The denying/lying about having writers is what rubbed me the wrong way. To lie about it, you must know there is a negative connotation with having ghost writers, because if there wasnt you would just embrace it. Saying you dont use writers, or you only get help on flows or a few bars, just for full blown reference tracks to come out just make you look funny in the light. Which leads to my next issue: EYE cant consider you the best if you using writers. That dont mean Im deleting your discography and never listening to your tracks. Drake is one of my favorite artists ever. Been to shows, got all his music, but definitely cant say he is the best rapper when he uses writers. And again, using writers aint a bad thing! Just own it.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

 

[Hijo Del Promo]

Even after all this, the disses, the accusatiosn, Drake and T swift still #1 and #2 top rappers.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

i was a big 50 fan, and im old enough to remember where being a correctional officer and lying about being a drug kingpin would have spelled the end of your rap career.

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but because hiphop is no longer a sub culture those rules just don't matter anymore.


Mafia Music and Deeper than Rap were just too good to be denied.

i could sit here and huff and puff about how Rick Ross shouldn't be considered an all time great.
but the reality is, those rules don't matter and Rick Ross is an all time great rapper.

Thems the breaks.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

You don't need street cred to be a great rapper. But you need to actually write your own raps. Drake's work on IYRT solidified him was a great lyricist. See how stupid that sounds? I'm sure plenty of people have the opinion that he's a great writer and plenty of people are wrong. I'm tryna give him some credit. I don't know if I'd call him an artist but he's capable of making good songs. He's just actually not a writer no matter how you try to spin it

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You don't need street cred to be a great rapper. But you need to actually write your own raps.

how old are you? you absolutely did need it as a gangster rapper. Rick Ross is a gangster rapper who was lying in all his raps.
this was a cardinal sin in hip up until the 50-Ross beef proved that it wasn't anymore.

Drake's work on IYRT solidified him was a great lyricist. See how stupid that sounds? I'm sure plenty of people have the opinion that he's a great writer and plenty of people are wrong.

again, if you want to live in a hermetically sealed bubble where Drake is just absent from these all time great lists, like he's a vacated NCAA title. you can do that.
but here on planet earth, here in reality, he is considered a great writer, by his peers, fans and critics. im just explaining to you what reality.

you can accept it or not, delusion is a choice.

I don't know if I'd call him an artist

so now he's not even an artist?
Drake derangement syndrome is powerful.

He's just actually not a writer no matter how you try to spin it

you are an adult, you have a brain, you are intelligent. you don't have to resort to black and white thinking, you are totally capable in thinking in shades of grey.


no one would sit here and say, Michael Jackson is not an artist, or a songwriter, because he's performed songs others have written.
Why? because we have brains. we can think through the details and understand degrees of difference.

Michael Jackson wrote Bad, Billie Jean, we aren't going to play dumb and pretend like that didn't happen.


you are appealing to an old rule of hip hop, that unfortunately doesn't matter anymore, you cope about if you want but it's clearly dead and gone.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Doing a cover song is the same thing as having ghost writers. Yea I'm out

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Doing a cover song is the same thing as having ghost writers. Yea I'm out

lolwut? follow along.

Man in the mirror is not a "cover song", it was written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett FOR MJ.

MJ wrote songs, and he performed songs other people have written.



but you aren't sitting here debating whether MJ is an "artist"

it's obvious this is just a drake problem for you, which is fine, you don't have to like all the all time great rappers.
Im not the biggest Future fan but you don't see me here pretending like he isn't one of the greats of his era.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

When did Michael Jackson try to take credit for songs he didn't write? You're just playing dumb at this point. Jay z is a great writer whether he actually lost 92 bricks or not. It's one thing to lie in your raps versus lying about rapping. Can't believe people really go back and forth with you all day

 

[osh kosh bosh]

When did Michael Jackson try to take credit for songs he didn't write? You're just playing dumb at this point. Jay z is a great writer whether he actually lost 92 bricks or not. It's one thing to lie in your raps versus lying about rapping. Can't believe people really go back and forth with you all day

oooooooh okay. so it's not that he has songs other people wrote, it's that he took credit for songs that other people wrote.
your problem isn't over music, it's about paper work...wut?

also is that even true? Yatchy is credited as a writer, Qmiller credited. can you point me to where drake said, i have never worked with writers ever in my life?

again delusion is a choice, you don't have to do this to yourself. accept reality, and just don't like his music like a normal person.

 

[broncos19dm]

OVO HIVE CHECK IN

 

[antidope]

 

[WASHED KING]

Short jokes is the angle he's taking?

Anyways, Kendrick need to drop.

 

[broncos19dm]

 

[checks mcgee]

drake been jokes for a while man bro should be in like a 21 jump street type movie

 

[antidope]

 

[Brownstone]

50 pushups is the best song by far imo

Now best diss record, idk

 

[checks mcgee]

Back 2 back shook earth

 

[mr z]

Great breakdown…man push ups one of the hardest disses in a minute

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Is the idea that he wrote the diss or the ghostwriters

 

[broncos19dm]

YO