'09 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFF-SEASON THREAD-recruiting/Coaching Changes/Transfers
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Lots of folks on here seem to think it's natural for a backup to transfer if he doesn't win the #1 or even #2 job right away. But that's just not the case at most schools. Is Aaron Corp going to transfer from USC if Barkley wins the job? Has Brantley transferred from Florida despite having to wait behind Tebow for three years? Every team in the country has highly touted backups waiting behind starters, except UM. What is it about this program where QB's are constantly leaving?
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This is true. AJ was #2 last scrimmage and in the last practice. But the depth chart hasn't even been set yet. And Randy has publicly statedhe's trying to get the younger freshman more reps these past few practices. You don't transfer just because somebody steals a few of your reps when thedepth chart hasn't even been set yet. It was an open competition for #2 and nobody had won yet.
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Originally Posted by Bigmike23
so yall going off made me go read the U board on Scoutsbigger homers then life lesson on there
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and a back up will never leave USC after seeing the success of oh boy...can't think of his name right now.....
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Matt Cassel.
And even though Brantley is behind Tebag, he's still going to have 2 years at the helm and he gets reps in garbage time.
Corp is a different story. All things considered, I can understand Corp leaving. Because if Barkley gets the nod, he's not letting it go. He's thatgood. Probably the best pure quarterback (read: not athlete playing QB) to come out of HS in the last 5 years or so. Dude has #1 pick written all over him andthe scary thing is he already has damn near picture perfect mechanics.
But he probably won't because he can still get to the L, and Barkley is that good.
And even though Brantley is behind Tebag, he's still going to have 2 years at the helm and he gets reps in garbage time.
Corp is a different story. All things considered, I can understand Corp leaving. Because if Barkley gets the nod, he's not letting it go. He's thatgood. Probably the best pure quarterback (read: not athlete playing QB) to come out of HS in the last 5 years or so. Dude has #1 pick written all over him andthe scary thing is he already has damn near picture perfect mechanics.
But he probably won't because he can still get to the L, and Barkley is that good.
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Really? At least be creative.
Randy as a HC
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No.
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Both of these dudes transferred out ? Something is definitely fishy about that.
You would think if one left, the other would stay. IMO
You would think if one left, the other would stay. IMO
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they said AJ was balling and whipple wants a 1 qb system so Cook wasn't playing unless Jacory got hurt....Jacory produced last season so Cook was an idiotif he thought he could bet Jacory out during fall practice....if anything if Jacory played like crap the 1st 2 games then Cook would've gotten a chance...
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Jermale Hines is really pushing for the safety spot next to Kurt Coleman
My dude.
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AMHERST, N.Y. (AP)-Buffalo running back James Starks knew shoulder surgery now would cost him his final season of college football. He also knew he couldn't help his team if he wasn't healthy.
So Starks decided it was best to have his shoulder repaired and prepare for a shot at the NFL, leaving the defending Mid-American Conference champion Bulls without their all-time leading rusher.
"It was a hard decision," Starks said on Tuesday. "I've been here the whole summer, working hard. My teammates have been here. Just to feel like I was letting them down made the decision that much harder for me."
Coach Turner Gill said that tests revealed Starks, a fifth-year senior scheduled to graduate in December, has a labral tear in his left shoulder. Gill said doctors told him Starks should make a full recovery after four to six months of rehabilitation.
Starks holds school records with 3,140 yards rushing, 34 touchdowns rushing and 222 points scored. He already was being projected as an NFL prospect in next year's draft, and made the Doak Walker Memorial trophy watch list as one of the nation's top college running backs entering this season.
"I know he has an opportunity on the next level," Gill said.
Gill said Starks was injured during a scrimmage on Aug. 15. Initial attempts at rehabbing the injury were ineffective and an MRI revealed the labrum tear.
Further attempts to rehab the shoulder went nowhere, Gill said. Starks tried to practice despite the discomfort, but the injury soon proved to be too painful.
"I asked a lot of people and the best decision for me and the team was to have the surgery," Starks said.
The injury is a blow to a Bulls program coming off its best season-and first with a winning record-since joining the MAC in 1999. The Bulls went 8-6 last year to win their first MAC championship and make their first bowl appearance, a 38-20 loss to Connecticut in the International Bowl.
"We have a lot of great running backs that can take the load," Starks said. "It's just a temporary setback."
The starting job now likely belongs to Brandon Thermilus, a 5-11, 224-pound junior previously used as a bruising complement to the flashier Starks. Buffalo opens the season Sept. 5 at UTEP.
"The way I look at it, I've just got to pick it up," said Thermilus, who rushed for 454 yards and seven touchdowns last season. "I've got to play football, that's what I came here to do."
The Bulls already were entering this season with sophomore quarterback Zach Maynard taking over for Drew Willy, who finished his career at Buffalo by setting nearly every school passing record.
"Injuries are, and will always be, a huge part of football, but this one is particularly painful because of what James has meant to this program and community," Gill said. "However, this is an incredible opportunity for a group of very talented running backs that we have to step up and help us achieve our
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Originally Posted by IYE2
Jermale Hines is really pushing for the safety spot next to Kurt ColemanMy dude.
did u get to go to the open practice monday?
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Thats a good look. I think he can make more plays than Russell back there.Originally Posted by IYE2
Jermale Hines is really pushing for the safety spot next to Kurt ColemanMy dude.
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ATHENS - Bryce Ros' college football career ended before it began.
Georgia's redshirt freshman tight end, who had yet to play in a game for the Bulldogs, has given up football because of a chronic foot condition that stems from a high-school injury.
Ros is the son of Frank Ros, former UGA linebacker who was captain of the Bulldogs' 1980 national-championship team.
Georgia will seek a medical exemption from the NCAA so that Ros can remain on scholarship without counting against the 85-scholarship limit after this season.
According to UGA director of sports medicine Ron Courson, Ros suffers from chronic degenerative changes in the big toe joint of his right foot, making it difficult to handle the demands of college football.
Ros hurt his foot during his junior year at Kennesaw Mountain High School and had surgery the following year. He signed with Georgia in 2008 and was redshirted last season. He has continued to experience pain in the foot, limiting him on the practice field.
"It's just never fun; it's nothing that anybody really looks forward to," coach Mark Richt said of Ros' decision. "But it was just a situation where [he] couldn't go. He never really fully recovered from it from high school."
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[h1]Brown gets green light[/h1]
John Brice
VolQuest.com Senior Writer
Talk about it in The General's Quarters
Mike Hamilton has been no stranger this fall to the University of Tennessee's football practice field. First-year head coachLane Kiffin never was happier to see him than two-thirds of the way through Wednesday evening's practice.
Hamilton got the attention of his football coach and informed him the NCAA had sent word that heralded freshman tailback Bryce Brown had beenexonerated by collegiate athletics' governing body and would neither miss any game time nor be required to pay restitution.
"We just got the news during practice, so I don't know exactly what were the final factors except for, it's what's right," Kiffin said."In the end, they got it right that he shouldn't be punished. He didn't do something knowingly wrong. And I'm very excited about that andthink that says a lot about the system."
Kiffin was quick to praise UT associate athletic director for compliance, Brad Bertani.
"Brad Bertani, from our side, did a great job working with the NCAA," Kiffin said.
At the center of this firestorm has been Brown's adviser, Bryan Butler, who told VolQuest.com the NCAA's ultimateruling was a validation of collegiate athletics and Brown's innocence.
"I will just say that I'm thankful to the NCAA with the investigation. We are so grateful that the system works and the NCAA did their role and isabout what they say they are about, and that is the kids," Butler said. "I'm looking forward to moving on and watching Bryce play and helpTennessee win some football games. We are very thankful."
Added Kiffin, "I really believed that they were going to get this right. Without going into too much detail, I had some conversations with the NCAA and Ireally felt that they were going to get this thing right. I really spent time explaining who this kid is and what he's about. How this is not a kid whoshould be punished for something like this. And I think that was part of me just being positive. So we did not limit his reps. We did not take out plays thatwe had in and we were going in and just planning all along as if he was going to be there. His smile today when I told him, going into that last period, he puthis arm around me and it was pretty neat to see. He was pretty excited."
Kiffin confirmed the initial finding had fallen under the NCAA's "30 percent rule," which would have required the powerful running back fromWichita, Kan., to miss the Vols' first four games and repay "a lot of money" for having attended a college campuses tour following his sophomoreseason of high school.
The nation's No. 1 overall prospect last season according to Rivals.com, Brown apparently further validated his case for zero lost time ormonetary penalty with a lengthy letter last week to the NCAA.
"I think it would be guessing a little bit on my behalf to say exactly what factored in," said Kiffin, who indicated last week the UT coaches alreadyhad installed specific plays for Brown. "I know he did a phenomenal job with the letter late last week. He wrote a very detailed, long letter about theexperience and about him and what he's gone through. Sent that to the NCAA, and I would think that that helped."
While Kiffin said he couldn't exactly "remember" the monetary penalty the NCAA initially levied, Kiffin did reiterate it wasn'tinsignificant.
"I don't remember the exact number, but it was significant the number that it started with," Kiffin said. "And then had gone down throughthe work of our people and communication with the NCAA. Somehow it ended up at zero."
Was it in the thousands of dollars?
"Up there," Kiffin reiterated.
Also considered up there is Brown's potential, which he has displayed almost from the onset of UT's fall camp. The 6-foot, 215-pounder first began toshine once the Vols donned pads, and despite having missed significant time last week due to a hip injury and with the NCAA ruling looming over his head, Brownbattered the UT defense for 28 yards one just four carries, including an 11-yard touchdown.
During his final two years at Wichita East High School, Brown amassed more than 3,600 yards and 56 touchdowns.
"Bryce is a playmaker," said linebacker Nick Reveiz. "As an older guy, I haven't seen a lot of freshman come in and step upand play. But I have no doubts that Bryce is going to get in there and get big plays. I've got a lot of confidence in him. I'm happy he's going tobe able to play that first game."
The campus tour Brown attended with Butler, which also included roughly nine other prospects, was at least in part funded by community efforts. That'shardly uncommon, Kiffin said.
"I think that that's something that in recruiting over the years you know is very common. People or towns assist players as they grow up," saidthe coach. "As they grow up in their system, high school players have the ability to go visit camps and campuses to better themselves as players. Not justto evaluate the colleges that they may go to but to better them as players when they come to the college camp.
"I'm sure that's something that goes on a lot and that weighed into it, but by no means was that something that Bryce was doing knowingly wrong.He was just part of the group and actually was younger than most of the other guys."
And while the matter was resolved just 10 days before the Vols kick off their season at home against Western Kentucky, starting quarterback JonathanCrompton said the team had prepared for Brown's clearance.
"No (nothing changes), because we planned on him being there the whole time," said the senior signal-caller. "He's continued to work withthe first team."
Ultimately, Kiffin couldn't praise enough the work of Bertani and on what he saw as the NCAA's justice.
"Best news of the day is that Bryce Brown has been cleared," Kiffin said. "His penalties have been waived, he will miss no games and owes nomoney. I think that it's a heck of a deal by the NCAA to get it done right and get it done with a sense of urgency. …
"It was going to be four games and our people did a great job. The NCAA did a great job of continuing to investigate it and to go back and ended upwaiving and changing it to nothing. It was four games and a lot of money. We're very excited for Bryce and for our whole team."
John Brice
VolQuest.com Senior Writer
Talk about it in The General's Quarters
Mike Hamilton has been no stranger this fall to the University of Tennessee's football practice field. First-year head coachLane Kiffin never was happier to see him than two-thirds of the way through Wednesday evening's practice.
Hamilton got the attention of his football coach and informed him the NCAA had sent word that heralded freshman tailback Bryce Brown had beenexonerated by collegiate athletics' governing body and would neither miss any game time nor be required to pay restitution.
"We just got the news during practice, so I don't know exactly what were the final factors except for, it's what's right," Kiffin said."In the end, they got it right that he shouldn't be punished. He didn't do something knowingly wrong. And I'm very excited about that andthink that says a lot about the system."
Kiffin was quick to praise UT associate athletic director for compliance, Brad Bertani.
"Brad Bertani, from our side, did a great job working with the NCAA," Kiffin said.
At the center of this firestorm has been Brown's adviser, Bryan Butler, who told VolQuest.com the NCAA's ultimateruling was a validation of collegiate athletics and Brown's innocence.
"I will just say that I'm thankful to the NCAA with the investigation. We are so grateful that the system works and the NCAA did their role and isabout what they say they are about, and that is the kids," Butler said. "I'm looking forward to moving on and watching Bryce play and helpTennessee win some football games. We are very thankful."
Added Kiffin, "I really believed that they were going to get this right. Without going into too much detail, I had some conversations with the NCAA and Ireally felt that they were going to get this thing right. I really spent time explaining who this kid is and what he's about. How this is not a kid whoshould be punished for something like this. And I think that was part of me just being positive. So we did not limit his reps. We did not take out plays thatwe had in and we were going in and just planning all along as if he was going to be there. His smile today when I told him, going into that last period, he puthis arm around me and it was pretty neat to see. He was pretty excited."
Kiffin confirmed the initial finding had fallen under the NCAA's "30 percent rule," which would have required the powerful running back fromWichita, Kan., to miss the Vols' first four games and repay "a lot of money" for having attended a college campuses tour following his sophomoreseason of high school.
The nation's No. 1 overall prospect last season according to Rivals.com, Brown apparently further validated his case for zero lost time ormonetary penalty with a lengthy letter last week to the NCAA.
"I think it would be guessing a little bit on my behalf to say exactly what factored in," said Kiffin, who indicated last week the UT coaches alreadyhad installed specific plays for Brown. "I know he did a phenomenal job with the letter late last week. He wrote a very detailed, long letter about theexperience and about him and what he's gone through. Sent that to the NCAA, and I would think that that helped."
While Kiffin said he couldn't exactly "remember" the monetary penalty the NCAA initially levied, Kiffin did reiterate it wasn'tinsignificant.
"I don't remember the exact number, but it was significant the number that it started with," Kiffin said. "And then had gone down throughthe work of our people and communication with the NCAA. Somehow it ended up at zero."
Was it in the thousands of dollars?
"Up there," Kiffin reiterated.
Also considered up there is Brown's potential, which he has displayed almost from the onset of UT's fall camp. The 6-foot, 215-pounder first began toshine once the Vols donned pads, and despite having missed significant time last week due to a hip injury and with the NCAA ruling looming over his head, Brownbattered the UT defense for 28 yards one just four carries, including an 11-yard touchdown.
During his final two years at Wichita East High School, Brown amassed more than 3,600 yards and 56 touchdowns.
"Bryce is a playmaker," said linebacker Nick Reveiz. "As an older guy, I haven't seen a lot of freshman come in and step upand play. But I have no doubts that Bryce is going to get in there and get big plays. I've got a lot of confidence in him. I'm happy he's going tobe able to play that first game."
The campus tour Brown attended with Butler, which also included roughly nine other prospects, was at least in part funded by community efforts. That'shardly uncommon, Kiffin said.
"I think that that's something that in recruiting over the years you know is very common. People or towns assist players as they grow up," saidthe coach. "As they grow up in their system, high school players have the ability to go visit camps and campuses to better themselves as players. Not justto evaluate the colleges that they may go to but to better them as players when they come to the college camp.
"I'm sure that's something that goes on a lot and that weighed into it, but by no means was that something that Bryce was doing knowingly wrong.He was just part of the group and actually was younger than most of the other guys."
And while the matter was resolved just 10 days before the Vols kick off their season at home against Western Kentucky, starting quarterback JonathanCrompton said the team had prepared for Brown's clearance.
"No (nothing changes), because we planned on him being there the whole time," said the senior signal-caller. "He's continued to work withthe first team."
Ultimately, Kiffin couldn't praise enough the work of Bertani and on what he saw as the NCAA's justice.
"Best news of the day is that Bryce Brown has been cleared," Kiffin said. "His penalties have been waived, he will miss no games and owes nomoney. I think that it's a heck of a deal by the NCAA to get it done right and get it done with a sense of urgency. …
"It was going to be four games and our people did a great job. The NCAA did a great job of continuing to investigate it and to go back and ended upwaiving and changing it to nothing. It was four games and a lot of money. We're very excited for Bryce and for our whole team."
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Originally Posted by dreClark
Jawanza
He playing baseball this year?
Haven't heard anything about it. Is he good?
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Big balls Pete:
dacomeup
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By 2011 UT is going to be back. So this should be a good win for us Gunna
Cats and Vols in 2011
UC Press Release
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CINCINNATI - The University of Cincinnati and University of Tennessee have agreed to a one-game football matchup to take place in Neyland Stadium during the 2011 season it was announced Wednesday.
The Bearcats and Vols are set to play Sept. 10, 2011, in Knoxville in a game that will be televised by ESPN. UC replaces Southern Miss on the Vols schedule.
"Our philosophy is to play the best possible out of conference schedule," UC head coach Brian Kelly said. "Tennessee's football tradition and geographic location make it a great matchup for us."
"We worked with our friends at ESPN and were able to schedule the University of Cincinnati, the defending Big East Conference champions," UT athletics director Mike Hamilton said. "We're very pleased with how things turned out and excited about welcoming coach Brian Kelly and the Bearcats to Knoxville for that game."
UT and Cincinnati have met five times, all in Knoxville, with the most recent outcome a 40-0 Vols win in 1992. The other four meetings occurred between 1904 and 1942, and Tennessee leads the overall series 4-1. The Bearcats lone win in the series was the inaugural matchup in 1904, a 35-0 UC decision.
UC will open the 2011 season at Nippert Stadium with Albany before heading to Knoxville to play the Vols. Other 2011 non-conference matchups bring Akron and NC State to Nippert with a road trip to Oxford, Ohio for the 116th Battle for the Victory Bell against Miami (OH).
The Bearcats will open the 2009 season on Monday, Sept. 7, in a 4 p.m. BIG EAST Conference game at Rutgers. Season tickets are available now by calling 1-877-CATS-TIX or visiting CATSTIX.com.
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we'll be back next yr.
Good show tho, should extend that. we need more ohio talent cus Mike edwards is a football player.
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ESPNU is doing Big 12 preview hour at midnite...
Good show tho, should extend that. we need more ohio talent cus Mike edwards is a football player.
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ESPNU is doing Big 12 preview hour at midnite...
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why Mike Sherman had Johnson in a QB battle w. Tannehill is strange....was it to light a fire under Johnson's *!@? I dunno, but this kid is gonna do workthis year....
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Not to be a jerk, but based on what? You still won't have a QB, you lose 4 starters on the OL and lose your 2 best defensive players. I don't see howthat makes you better.
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u not bein a jerk. our freshman are already are best offensive weapons.
this team was NOT devoid of talent. just no one to put them in spots to succeed.
Rico isnt our 2nd best Defensive player. Hope ur not thinking that
Gerald Williams/Chris Walker are.
top 10 defense last yr despite the sorry offense. that aint goin nowhere even without EB.
they'll show u better than I can tell u.
this team was NOT devoid of talent. just no one to put them in spots to succeed.
Rico isnt our 2nd best Defensive player. Hope ur not thinking that
Gerald Williams/Chris Walker are.
top 10 defense last yr despite the sorry offense. that aint goin nowhere even without EB.
they'll show u better than I can tell u.
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It was partly to light a fire under Johnson's $+! and to make him work harder, having to compete to keep his job. It also had to do with thefact that Tannehill will move to backup QB this year and will only be on the field at WR during certain situations, such as 3rd and long plays. (So most of theQB battle was just caused by natural competition between QB 1 and QB 2.) Tannehill may have one of the smartest football minds of any college player in thenation, though, and Sherman absolutely loves that about himOriginally Posted by DoubleJs07
why Mike Sherman had Johnson in a QB battle w. Tannehill is strange....was it to light a fire under Johnson's *!@? I dunno, but this kid is gonna do work this year....
Johnson's measuring in at 6'5" and 245 now
He certainly has the weapons to put up some serious numbers (he already broke quite a few A&M records last year, and will probably do it again this year),but the OL is gonna play a huge factor in what he does. Reports haven't exactly been too positive about the OL so far during Training Camp...
And despite how I felt about Christine Michael having a huge year this season a month or so ago, I'm gonna have to jump on Gunna's bandwagon. He'sgonna do some serious work.
