'09 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFF-SEASON THREAD-recruiting/Coaching Changes/Transfers

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

I know how it is in Pahoke but

Doubt he goes to Knoxville

after what they did in only 2 months, would u put it past that UT staff to pull all kinda players.

No doubt. I'm just saying. I don't think he's going. Maybe some other WR's. But not him. We'll see after he visit's if hegoes on an official. And I don't even know how hard he's being recruited by the fighting kiffins. UT has offered everybody and their mother

.I also think that w/ Noel leaning towards coming to FSU too, it can only be better for us.

and the run game is gonna be Sick. zone blocking scheme I cant wait to see RB#2 demolishing DBs one on one.

Yeah, it's a beautiful thing when you have RB's that are acutally are good being that scheme and read their cutbacks (etc) correctly. IsHe that type of back?

Tone wasn't really good behind it (Hence the reason why Trickett was always riding him so hard) but eventually he got better. Jermaine is a natural behindthat and he had a great season.

 

[jville819]

Is Noel the 2nd player you're talking about or am I missing another

 

[zs05wc]

Idk if its been posted yet or not but Michigan picked up Devin Gardner today, pretty much pryor w/o the hype. Will be a good fit for our system assuming hestays committed.

 

[jville819]

Originally Posted by zs05wc

Idk if its been posted yet or not but Michigan picked up Devin Gardner today, pretty much pryor w/o the hype. Will be a good fit for our system assuming he stays committed.

Good pick up

. But what the hell are y'all gonna do this upcomingyear. It's gonna be another long season if Sheridan is the QB

 

[zs05wc]

Originally Posted by jville819

Originally Posted by zs05wc

Idk if its been posted yet or not but Michigan picked up Devin Gardner today, pretty much pryor w/o the hype. Will be a good fit for our system assuming he stays committed.

Good pick up

. But what the hell are y'all gonna do this upcoming year. It's gonna be another long season if Sheridan is the QB

Sheridan has broken a small bone in his leg so he's been out for pretty much all of spring ball, which means Tate Forcier has beeen taking most of the repsin practices w/ the ones. Reports say he looks really good, but he's small as hell. Athletically he's better than anything we had last year, throwsbetter and can move. But he's still gonna be a freshman. I'd be surprise if Sheridan starts but if he does it won't be long before Tate is inthere. Also Denard Robinson will be up there in the summer, he just ran a 10.44 in the 100.

 

[gunna get it]

Damn, I didnt even pay attention to this:

[h4]Welcome to Tone-Deaf BureaucracyNow, starring Corey Surrency[/h4]
By Matt Hinton

After Preston Parker's midnight ride cost him a rosterspot in February, I reviewed Florida State's relativelack of returning playmakers, and Corey Surrency played a prominent role in the analysis. Surrency was only an occasional player in FSU's offense inhis first year out of El Camino (Calif.) Community College, but he did average almost 20 yards with four touchdowns on just 12 catches, flashing some of thetalent that made him one of the most sought-after JUCO transfers in the country.His size, speed and hype make him an obvious candidate for a senior breakout this fall.

Talent notwithstanding, that fate hasn't always been a foregone conclusion: Surrency, 24, grew up in rough part of Miami, dropped out ofschool in ninth grade and later spent 90 days in jail for what the Orlando Sentinel describes as "various crimes," including felonies. Afterprison, Surrency earned his diploma, played a season with a "minor league" team, Tampa's Florida Kings of the Southern Indoor Football League, and eventually headed cross-country to El Camino, wherehe caught on and earned scholarship offers from all over thecountry. Whether or not he makes any more waves on the field, that's a success story -- or it was, until, as the Sentinel reports today, the narrative met one of the more obscure corners ofthe NCAA rulebook:

The rule is No. 14.2.3.5 in the NCAA Division I Manuel. It is titled, "Participation After 21st Birthday," and it mandates the following: If an individual participates in an organized sport after his 21st birthday, but before enrolling in college, that participation "shall count as one year of varsity competition in that sport."
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Surrency played with the Kings after he had turned 21. Had he not, he might never have had the chance to go to college. Regardless, though, his time with the Kings has cost him his final year of eligibility - at least for now. Florida State is appealing on Surrency's behalf.

If FSU loses the appeal, Surrency's college football career would be over. It's likely, too, that [with the loss of his athletic scholarship] his pursuit of earning a degree in criminal justice - Surrency would become the first member of his family to earn a college degree - would also be over.


The rule, said NCAA spokesman Jennifer Kearns, is designed to "to minimize competitive advantage" by ensuring a "normalprogression" through high school and the entry to college. Surrency, because his high school career was interrupted, got into the system too late.http://

Obviously, the rule is not designed to necessarily cater to individual athletes' best interests, which in Surrency's case isto remain in school another year and earn his degree, like anyone else in his situation who has the will, the means and the grades. It's tone-deafbureaucracy par excellence: If the rule didn't exist, no one would think to look for it; no one would think twice about any practical,non-bureaucratic issues, or feel the need to think up some kind of tangible problem that would result from Surrency finishing out the usual string. If he'djoined the Florida Kings at 19 or 20 years old, no one would bat an eye. Hell, if the sport in question was minor league baseball -- as it was fora certain winner of a certain trophy a few years ago -- he'd be in the clear.

But, the rules being what they are, Surrency waits while his teammates go through spring practice, telling reporter Andrew Carter,"It's killing me, man. I'm losing my fight for the game right now," while the NCAA takes its time to decide whether its bureaucracy is moresacred than a kid's best chance to finish his degree.

 

[pdub9]

A lot of fans figured he wasn't going to be playing this year but if he can't even get his degree

 

[CP1708]

I know this isn't the right place but I don't want to start another thread and I need the football guys answers.

Did anyone catch the top CB tandems of all time on NFL network last night? Anyone know who all was on the list?

I didn't get a chance to watch it but I was hoping that Madison/Surtain were in there somewhere.

 

[jville819]

10: Dennis Thurman, Everson Walls (Cowboys)
9: Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross (Chiefs)
8: Willie Brown, Skip Thomas (Raiders)
7: Deion Sanders and anyone
6: Mel Blount, JT Thomas (Steelers)
5: +#*% Lebeau and Night Train Lane, +#*% Lebeau and Lem Barney (Lions)
4: Herb Adderly, Bob Jeter (Packers)
3: Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright (9ers)
2: Hanford Dixon, Frank Minnifield (Browns)
1: Lester Hayes and Mike Haynes
I'm 100% sure if thats it tho

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by jville819

10: Dennis Thurman, Everson Walls (Cowboys)
9: Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross (Chiefs)
8: Willie Brown, Skip Thomas (Raiders)
7: Deion Sanders and anyone
6: Mel Blount, JT Thomas (Steelers)
5: +#*% Lebeau and Night Train Lane, +#*% Lebeau and Lem Barney (Lions)
4: Herb Adderly, Bob Jeter (Packers)
3: Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright (9ers)
2: Hanford Dixon, Frank Minnifield (Browns)
1: Lester Hayes and Mike Haynes

I'm 100% sure if thats it tho


Thanks for the info.

I did see #9 and those were the two so lookslike the right list.


All old folks on that list.

That ain't right..........hope theyupdate that list someday.

 

[i am toddzo]

I would be shocked if FSU didn't let him keep a ship and get his degree even if the NCAA nazis screw him over..

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain

They were a great combo.

 

[gunna get it]

them dudes were holders.

its a shame all the crap the officials let them get away with. they'd be bottom 5 CB tandem if the game was called properly.

Purdue QB Siller dismissed

Apr 3, 4:51 pm EDT

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WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. (AP)-Purdue quarterback Justin Siller has been dismissed from school through 2009-10 for an academic violation.

The redshirt sophomore from Detroit was expected to compete with fifth-year senior Joey Elliott for the starting job next season.

Siller started three games last year, including his first start against Michigan when he led the Boilermakers to a 48-42 win and was the Big Ten's offensive co-player of the week. He completed 21 of 34 passes for 266 yards and three touchdowns and ran for 77 yards and another score in that game.

Purdue coach Danny Hope said in a statement Friday that Siller made a bad academic decision and deserved to be punished. He would not elaborate on the violation.




Idiot. He played well last yr.

 

[CP1708]

GUNNA GET IT wrote:

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them dudes were holders.

its a shame all the crap the officials let them get away with. they'd be bottom 5 CB tandem if the game was called properly.





Blasphemous!!

 

[al3xis]

No QB For Purdue...chalk one up.

 

[gunna get it]

Originally Posted by CP1708

GUNNA GET IT wrote:

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them dudes were holders.

its a shame all the crap the officials let them get away with. they'd be bottom 5 CB tandem if the game was called properly.

Blasphemous!!

 

[the sauna]

Notre Dame looks great this spring. I know nt hates the Irish but nd is going to have a great year, possibly with a bcs bowl this year

 

[gunna get it]

Originally Posted by THE SAUNA

Notre Dame looks great this spring. I know nt hates the Irish but nd is going to have a great year, possibly with a bcs bowl this year

who doesnt look great in the spring.

No one Hates ND, they hate foolish statements. same ones every outta pocket ND fan has been sayin every yr for 10 yrs now.

in fact, wheres RBeezy

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by THE SAUNA

Notre Dame looks great this spring. I know nt hates the Irish but nd is going to have a great year, possibly with a bcs bowl this year

same *$$% u said last year and the year before that

u still got the same horrible coach, lack of team speed and a team full of soft players

 

[tmay407]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Originally Posted by THE SAUNA

Notre Dame looks great this spring. I know nt hates the Irish but nd is going to have a great year, possibly with a bcs bowl this year

who doesnt look great in the spring.

Even Texas A&M looked really good last Spring

How did that turn out for us?

 

[rellnye]

[h1]Syracuse quarterback David Legree quits the team[/h1] [h3]by syracuse.com[/h3]
[h3]Thursday April 02, 2009, 7:53 AM[/h3]

Frank Ordonez / The Post-StandardSyracuse sophomore quarterback David Legree, right, works out with Andrew Robinson during a spring practice. Legree quit the team this week.

Syracuse sophomore quarterback David Legree decided to leave the team on Wednesday. He's the fifth player to quit the football team during spring practice. That leaves the Orange with just two quarterbacks for spring ball - redshirt freshman Ryan Nassib and senior Cameron Dantley.

Legree's decision came two days after coach Doug Marrone announced Nassib as the starting quarterback and Dantley as the backup. The Orange will get a third quarterback this summer when freshman Charley Loeb arrives.

 

[al3xis]

nah, we will be much better this year.

Coaching staff changes are a huge plus, there's more depth, more athletes (still not many, but there's more)

how much success is dependent on the O and D Lines. If the O line is anywhere near good, Jimmy, Golden, Floyd and Rudolph are gona ball.

And for better or worse, the schedule is a joke. If Jimmy doesn't throw the pick 6 outa the half down in Chapel Hill, who knows how even last year turnsout to begin with.

 

[gunna get it]

Schedule was Cake last yr tho ...

 

[al3xis]

It was.

but everyone is a year older now. Upper class talent on this roster the past 2 years was flat out atrocious.

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Schedule was Cake last yr tho ...

took what i was about to type from me