'09 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFF-SEASON THREAD-recruiting/Coaching Changes/Transfers

Originally Posted by LifeLessons

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nah i didnt see it

but damn i just looked at j-mee's times at arkansas and this dude has gotten slower (running 10.4's)......guess the rumors about him juicing in HS were true...who knows
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Na he was definitely on sumtin in HS... dude was #@%@#% huge back then... but sidenote anybody know if Javhid is still doin track or has hecompletely focused on Football...

what boys in FL is doin it in track this year
 
Canestime is the 2nd biggest collection of idiots i've ever seen on a message board. 2nd to only stormfront.


And Lamar Miller is not slow. NT'ers think everybody who isn't Chris Rainey is slow. gtfooh
 
Canestime is the 2nd biggest collection of idiots i've ever seen on a message board. 2nd to only stormfront.

Imma have to put a bid in for the members of Volquest

Dudes was sayin gJones is on Percy harvin level. *slap
Arian foster will be a first round pick this draft *slap
Luke Stocker is as good as Jason Whitten *slap
and so on...
 
Can we just include any CFB fan that posts on their respective team's message board?
 
What's the deal with Aaron Corp and SC?

They going to let him run it a lot in their offense next season?
 
Originally Posted by vctry20



I guess this would go in here right?


He wants to get his degree in communications. Why not go to Newhouse, the #1 school for the program, to get his Masters in it?

To me this is purely a PR move to get Syracuse folks in the seats. Attendance has declined rapidly in the last two years and they'd do anything to getabout 45K per game.
 
Ahmad Paige is about to Transfer outta Knoxville

Whoever lands him can get a nice player if he can ever stay healthy and get on the field.


**Also QB BJ Coleman will be transfering to Duke. U know how it goes, not confirmed yet but it will happen
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Ahmad Paige is about to Transfer outta Knoxville

Whoever lands him can get a nice player if he can ever stay healthy and get on the field.
Why does that name sound so familiar
 
[h1]How top draft picks graded out as preps[/h1]


1. Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
2006 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 quarterback, No. 6 overall recruit)


Though dual-threat wonder Tim Tebow outshined Stafford in his own conference, the latter always seemed to be the nation's best proprospect. His freakish arm strength and ability to make throws no one else could was plenty evident even when he was the quarterback at Highland Park (Dallas,Texas) High.

2. Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
2004 Rivals ranking: Two-star


Almost everyone whiffed on the offensive guard from W.T. White (Dallas, Texas) High. Kansas and Minnesota also showed interest, but Smith stuck with Baylor,where he started eight games at tight end as a redshirt freshman. He moved to right tackle as a sophomore and left tackle as a junior.

3. Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
2005 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 offensive tackle, No. 3 overall)


Everyone wanted the 6-foot-6, 320-pounder from Plainfield, N.J. Monroe wound up deciding between Maryland and Virginia.

4. Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
2005 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 pro-style quarterback, No. 7 overall)


Sanchez already had committed to USC when he blew away the field at the 2004 Elite 11 camp. Fellow campers that year included Chase Daniel, RyanPerrilloux and Jonathan Crompton.

5. Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
2006 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 16 athlete)


Oklahoma and Texas A&M also wanted the football/basketball star from Skyline (Dallas, Texas) High. Unfortunately for the Sooners and Aggies, theycouldn't compete against the one-two recruiting punch of Mike Leach and Bob Knight. Crabtree realized quickly his futurewas on the gridiron.

6. Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
2006 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 offensive tackle, No. 2 overall)


Four days before National Signing Day, fans at Florida's O'Connell Center chanted the name of official visitor Smith, who also was consideringAlabama, LSU and USC. The giant from Birmingham caused a lot of angst in his home state, but worry turned to joy when he slipped a houndstooth hat on his headon Signing Day.

7. Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
2006 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 24 receiver)


Maclin called himself a "soft verbal" when he committed to Oklahoma in August 2005. The speedy receiver from St. Louis changed his mind a fewmonths later, and his choice set the stage for Missouri's rise.

8. Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
2004 Rivals ranking: Two-star


Curry, from Fayetteville, N.C., hoped for offers from other ACC schools, but they never came. So Curry went to Wake Forest, put on 35 pounds of muscle andturned into one of the nation's best linebackers.

9. B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
2004 Rivals ranking: Two-star


Raji, from Washington Township, N.J., flew under the radar until his senior season because he didn't go to the usual combines and camps the previoussummer. That was lucky for B.C. and Rutgers, which discovered him first and wound up being his finalists.

10. Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
2004 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 12 weakside defensive end)


A trip to a Nike camp in College Station in May 2003 put Orakpo on the recruiting map, but the Houston native held out for an offer from Texas. When he gotit that June, he jumped on it.

11. Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
2004 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 10 inside linebacker)


Ayers, the No. 2-ranked player in South Carolina in 2004, knew he would play in the SEC, but he didn't decide where until the day before Signing Day.That's when he chose Tennessee over Florida and South Carolina.

12. Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
2004 Rivals ranking: Three-star (No. 14 strongside defensive end)


A late-January visit to Miami forced Jackson to rethink his commitment to LSU, but in the end, Jackson decided to head to Baton Rouge. The choice netted hima national-title ring.

13. Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
2005 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 7 offensive tackle)


Author Michael Lewis made quite a leap when he chose Oher as the focus of The Blind Side. Even at offensive tackle, it's toughto predict whether a high-schooler will become a first-rounder. Lewis nailed this one.

14. Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
2005 Rivals ranking: Three-star (No. 61 cornerback)


Jenkins, from Piscataway, N.J., also received offers from Rutgers, Syracuse and Virginia Tech. The fact that the Hokies and Buckeyes wanted him should havebeen the tip-off that Jenkins was no three-star.

15. Brian Cushing, LB, USC
2005 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 5 outside linebacker)


It came down to USC, Boston College, Florida and Miami for the Bulldog of Bergen, N.J. Cushing chose Troy, where he would join Sanchez and Maualuga in theclass of 2005.

16. Beanie Wells, RB, Ohio State
2006 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 running back, No. 3 overall recruit)


If not for the distance, Wells might have chosen USC, where he would have taken his place among a legendary collection of backs. Of course, the Akron nativehad a fair program in his own backyard, and he helped the Buckeyes to two BCS title-game appearances.

17. Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
2006 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 4 pro-style quarterback)


Freeman wasn't even considering Kansas State until the Wildcats hired Ron Prince, who had been trying to convince the Grandview, Mo.,native to come to Virginia. Shortly after Prince was hired, Freeman decommitted from Nebraska and set a course for the Little Apple.

18. Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State
2006 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 7 weakside defensive end)


Practically every school on the eastern seaboard wanted Maybin, a 6-3, 211-pounder from Ellicot City, Md. In October 2005, Penn State coach JoePaterno canceled all official visits the weekend of the Ohio State game so his players could concentrate. Maybin watched the Nittany Lions' upsetwin anyway, and he came away impressed.

19. Clay Matthews, LB, USC
2004 Rivals ranking: Zero-star (Walk-on)


Matthews, whose father, Clay, was an All-America linebacker at USC, received only one scholarship offer. From Idaho. So he walked on wherehis father and uncle (offensive lineman Bruce Matthews) starred, earned a scholarship and played his way into the first round.

20. Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
2005 Rivals ranking (prep school): Three-star


While at Hargrave Military Academy in 2004, Jerry played alongside 2008 first-rounder Branden Albert and current Alabama linebackerBrandon Fanney. Expect Jerry to be joined in the NFL next year by brother John, an Ole Miss offensive lineman.

21. Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
2006 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 10 running back)


Even though Moreno is from New Jersey, two of the SEC's biggest rivals wound up vying for his services. He chose Georgia over Florida, then burst on thenational stage as a redshirt freshman by gaining 188 yards and scoring three touchdowns in a 2007 win against the Gators in the World's Largest OutdoorCocktail Party.

22. Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
2006 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 overall recruit)


Though Tebow gets most of the credit for Florida's high-powered offense, Harvin was the X factor defenses couldn't contain. Durability issues havehurt Harvin's draft stock, but his 11.6-yard average from scrimmage -- with many of those touches coming as straight handoffs from the tailback spot --made him college football's most dangerous weapon.

23. Darius Butler, CB, UConn
2004 Rivals ranking: Two-star


This diamond in the rough started for four seasons after redshirting in 2004. Judging by this YouTube clip, he should have gotten some playing time alongside A.J. Price and Hasheem Thabeet.

24. Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
2004 Rivals ranking: Two-star


A knee injury suffered during Pettigrew's junior season at Tyler (Texas) Lee High threw college coaches off his scent, but he drew plenty of interestgoing into his senior season.

25. Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
2006 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 22 receiver)


Britt appeared set to sign with Illinois, but the speedster from Bayonne, N.J., decided on Signing Day he wanted to play closer to home.

26. Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
2005 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 inside linebacker, No. 5 overall)


The rich got richer in January 2005. During the broadcast of the U.S. Army All-American Bowl, this Eureka, Calif., star picked defending national champ USCover Oregon.

27. Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
2005 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 12 receiver)


This speedy receiver from Owing Mills, Md., considered heading south to Alabama, but just before his senior season at McDonogh High, he decided to stay homeand play for the Terrapins.

28. Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
2005 Rivals ranking: Four-star (No. 16 offensive tackle)


Much of the Pac-10 offered this giant from Burbank, Calif., but he considered Arizona a perfect fit.

29. Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
2006 Rivals ranking: Four star (No. 31 receiver)


Nicks caught passes at Independence (Charlotte, N.C.) High, from Joe Cox, Stafford's likely successor at Georgia. Few schools knewabout him because, as a junior, he played in the shadow of future Bulldog Mohamed Massaquoi. After Nicks racked up 1,524 receiving yards and15 touchdowns as a senior, several schools probably wished they had noticed Nicks as early as the Tar Heels did.

30. Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
2006 Rivals ranking: Three-star


Davis, from Dunbar High in Washington, had a tough time choosing between Illinois and Maryland. In the end, the brother of San Francisco 49ers tight endVernon Davis picked the Illini because he felt he had a better chance to play early. He was correct; Davis was named a freshman All-America in2006.

31. Donald Brown, RB, UConn
2005 Rivals ranking: Three-star


UConn's program has begun to produce NFL talent, but in 2005, Storrs wasn't a sexy destination in the eyes of recruiting analysts. Brown, who gained2,036 yards and scored 27 touchdowns as a senior at Catholic (Red Bank, N.J.) High, never stopped finding the end zone.

32. Max Unger, C, Oregon
2004 Rivals ranking: Three-star


The two Oregon schools were the only programs to offer Unger, then a 6-5, 280-pounder from Kamuela, Hawaii. The Ducks were the lucky winners of a brainy,athletic lineman. Unger started at left tackle as a freshman and sophomore and moved to center in 2007.
 
Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

Canestime is the 2nd biggest collection of idiots i've ever seen on a message board. 2nd to only stormfront.


And Lamar Miller is not slow. NT'ers think everybody who isn't Chris Rainey is slow. gtfooh
1. what i wrote was... Lamar Miller is slow..... compared to Randall Carroll... do you get the joke?
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2. out of all the speedsters on the UF roster, you picked Chris Rainey... Jeff Demps?
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for some reason i'm not even looking forward to the draft but i know ima be glued to the tv all day saturday
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i hope bruce johnson is a 1st day draft pick
 
Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by LifeLessons

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by LifeLessons

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Randall carroll ran in a race yesterday, and ran the 100m in 10.25, and ran the 200m in 21.3.

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but on the canestime board these fools are trying to say lamar miller is slow because he runs a 10.7 (he's also 200+ lbs)
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....i swear miami has some of the dumbest/most ignorant fans in sports but that has nothing to with my love for the squad
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but Lamar Miller is slow.... When compared to Randall Carroll
but you can't base somebody's speed on the field from their 100 time....and especially a time thats a 10.7...

J-mee Samuels was the fastest prep track runner back in 05 but this dude was nowhere close to that on the field....he broke the AAU record by running a 10.06 i think
im assuming you saw the blacked-out text... but na i've seen Randall Carroll on the field, he plays damn near every bit as fast as that 10.25 can translate with pads on...

Lamar Miller is nowhere near his class as a speedster... but Miller is fast in hsi own right...

damn i miss bein in cali goin to all the meets... got to watch Bryshon Nellum in person when he doubled up at the state meet in 07... saw the showdown wit him & javhid best...
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the best race i've personally witnessed.

damn i gotta find a way to watch that

Randall plays slower on the field. At USC Rising Stars camp, people were disappointed with his hype of being a DeSean-like deep threat. All the notable DBswere sticking him. That's why they kept telling Randall, even when he was committed, that they want him to come in as a CB.

Same thing happened at Army AA game. He didn't even time the fastest among the players.
 
Originally Posted by vctry20

What's the deal with Aaron Corp and SC?

They going to let him run it a lot in their offense next season?
They have some run plays for him, but I highly doubt they'll run it often. Pete is too traditional and won't risk having Corp go downmid-season.
 
Originally Posted by after h0urs

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by LifeLessons

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by LifeLessons

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Randall carroll ran in a race yesterday, and ran the 100m in 10.25, and ran the 200m in 21.3.

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but on the canestime board these fools are trying to say lamar miller is slow because he runs a 10.7 (he's also 200+ lbs)
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....i swear miami has some of the dumbest/most ignorant fans in sports but that has nothing to with my love for the squad
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but Lamar Miller is slow.... When compared to Randall Carroll
but you can't base somebody's speed on the field from their 100 time....and especially a time thats a 10.7...

J-mee Samuels was the fastest prep track runner back in 05 but this dude was nowhere close to that on the field....he broke the AAU record by running a 10.06 i think
im assuming you saw the blacked-out text... but na i've seen Randall Carroll on the field, he plays damn near every bit as fast as that 10.25 can translate with pads on...

Lamar Miller is nowhere near his class as a speedster... but Miller is fast in hsi own right...

damn i miss bein in cali goin to all the meets... got to watch Bryshon Nellum in person when he doubled up at the state meet in 07... saw the showdown wit him & javhid best...
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the best race i've personally witnessed.

damn i gotta find a way to watch that

Randall plays slower on the field. At USC Rising Stars camp, people were disappointed with his hype of being a DeSean-like deep threat. All the notable DBs were sticking him. That's why they kept telling Randall, even when he was committed, that they want him to come in as a CB.

Same thing happened at Army AA game. He didn't even time the fastest among the players.
hmm... very good point... but his track times speak for themselves...
 
But when you look at who is in front of Miller this year (it's probably one of the fastest years in state history) and how his career best compares (10.56, which he ran as a junior) to other Hurricanes and football greats, you come to appreciate the great open field speed Miller possesses for someone who stands 6-feet and weighs close to 210 pounds.
Remember how in awe we were of the speed slender Canes receiver Travis Benjamin showed us this past season? His fastest 100-meter time at Glades Central was 10.72 seconds. Remember little, speedy Sinorce Moss and how he would blow past guys in the secondary? His career best in the 100 meters at Carol City was 10.96. Devin Hester -- the guy with the 100 speed rating in John Madden's video game -- his fastest at Riviera Beach Suncoast was 10.87 seconds. Miller (timed at 4.32 in the 40-yard dash as a junior) has not only run faster than those speedy Canes in the 100 meters, but Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson (10.61) too. The fastest any Hurricane has run in 100-yard dash? Little-used former cornerback Terrell Walden (10.65).

The point is there aren't many guys who have come to UM with that type of long-range speed. Even Sam Shields, who was timed at a UM record 4.2 seconds earlier this week in the 40-yard dash, turned in his fastest 100-meter time of 10.82 seconds at Sarasota Booker.

For comparison, current Florida Gator Jeffrey Demps owns the state record with a 10.37 100-meter dash time. He nearly broke under 10 seconds at the U.S. Olympic Trials is by far the fastest high school football player the state has ever produced. Miller will likely be trying to beat a pair of future Gators when he gets past next week's regionals at Traz Powell Stadium. Among the speedy runners in front of him expected to make the final eight-man field -- receiver Andre Debose (10.63) from Sanford Seminole and 2010 cornerback Demar Dorsey (10.55) from Lauderdale Lakes Boyd Anderson. Another big name expected to participate in the race, future Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson (10.44) from Deerfield Beach. All will be trying to chase down one of the country's future Olympians in Dentarius Locke (10.35), who is headed to Tennessee on a track scholarship.

Enough about this kid's speed already.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

[h1]How top draft picks graded out as preps[/h1]
22. Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
2006 Rivals ranking: Five-star (No. 1 overall recruit)


Though Tebow gets most of the credit for Florida's high-powered offense, Harvin was the X factor defenses couldn't contain. Durability issues have hurt Harvin's draft stock, but his 11.6-yard average from scrimmage -- with many of those touches coming as straight handoffs from the tailback spot -- made him college football's most dangerous weapon.
Now it seems Percy was more dangerous than Gators fans wanted to know.
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Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

But when you look at who is in front of Miller this year (it's probably one of the fastest years in state history) and how his career best compares (10.56, which he ran as a junior) to other Hurricanes and football greats, you come to appreciate the great open field speed Miller possesses for someone who stands 6-feet and weighs close to 210 pounds.
Remember how in awe we were of the speed slender Canes receiver Travis Benjamin showed us this past season? His fastest 100-meter time at Glades Central was 10.72 seconds. Remember little, speedy Sinorce Moss and how he would blow past guys in the secondary? His career best in the 100 meters at Carol City was 10.96. Devin Hester -- the guy with the 100 speed rating in John Madden's video game -- his fastest at Riviera Beach Suncoast was 10.87 seconds. Miller (timed at 4.32 in the 40-yard dash as a junior) has not only run faster than those speedy Canes in the 100 meters, but Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson (10.61) too. The fastest any Hurricane has run in 100-yard dash? Little-used former cornerback Terrell Walden (10.65).

The point is there aren't many guys who have come to UM with that type of long-range speed. Even Sam Shields, who was timed at a UM record 4.2 seconds earlier this week in the 40-yard dash, turned in his fastest 100-meter time of 10.82 seconds at Sarasota Booker.

For comparison, current Florida Gator Jeffrey Demps owns the state record with a 10.37 100-meter dash time. He nearly broke under 10 seconds at the U.S. Olympic Trials is by far the fastest high school football player the state has ever produced. Miller will likely be trying to beat a pair of future Gators when he gets past next week's regionals at Traz Powell Stadium. Among the speedy runners in front of him expected to make the final eight-man field -- receiver Andre Debose (10.63) from Sanford Seminole and 2010 cornerback Demar Dorsey (10.55) from Lauderdale Lakes Boyd Anderson. Another big name expected to participate in the race, future Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson (10.44) from Deerfield Beach. All will be trying to chase down one of the country's future Olympians in Dentarius Locke (10.35), who is headed to Tennessee on a track scholarship.
Enough about this kid's speed already.


word wish the canestime board understood
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[h3]Ducks' top recruit arrested in Fresno, charged with felony assault[/h3] [h4]Posted by John Hunt, The Oregonian April 23, 2009 16:10PM[/h4]
Categories: Football

Cliff Harris, who is considered the top recruit in Oregon's 2009 football recruiting class, was arrested Wednesday in Fresno, Calif., and charged with felony assault of a public official.

According to media reports in Fresno, Harris' brother got into an argument at Edison High School with a police officer over his clothing and was pepper-sprayed. Cliff Harris then intervened and also was pepper-sprayed and arrested.
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The Ducks consider Harris, a four-star recruit, a good bet to play this fall. He was rated the seventh-best cornerback in the nation by rivals.com and is considered a top kick returner, too.

He was booked into the Fresno County Jail. Bail was set at $20,000 for the felony count and $10,000 for a misdemeanor charge of obstructing a public officer.

Oregon coach Chip Kelly released the following statement:

"We are aware of the allegations against Cliff Harris and are looking into the matter. We reserve any further comment until the legal process runs its course."

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STUPID IDIOT. An argument over some freaking clothes?
Cliff might have just pissed his time away at Oregon
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[h3]Ducks' top recruit arrested in Fresno, charged with felony assault[/h3] [h4]Posted by John Hunt, The Oregonian April 23, 2009 16:10PM[/h4]
Categories: Football

Cliff Harris, who is considered the top recruit in Oregon's 2009 football recruiting class, was arrested Wednesday in Fresno, Calif., and charged with felony assault of a public official.

According to media reports in Fresno, Harris' brother got into an argument at Edison High School with a police officer over his clothing and was pepper-sprayed. Cliff Harris then intervened and also was pepper-sprayed and arrested.
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The Ducks consider Harris, a four-star recruit, a good bet to play this fall. He was rated the seventh-best cornerback in the nation by rivals.com and is considered a top kick returner, too.

He was booked into the Fresno County Jail. Bail was set at $20,000 for the felony count and $10,000 for a misdemeanor charge of obstructing a public officer.

Oregon coach Chip Kelly released the following statement:

"We are aware of the allegations against Cliff Harris and are looking into the matter. We reserve any further comment until the legal process runs its course."
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STUPID IDIOT. An argument over some freaking clothes?
Cliff might have just pissed his time away at Oregon
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how is he stupid? the cop pepper sprayed his brother for no reason....i would've jumped into it too.....police officers are too damn scary thesedays...bunch of cowards wearing badges these days....they jump the gun when its not even that serious
 
Originally Posted by LifeLessons

Originally Posted by dr funk 13

[h3]Ducks' top recruit arrested in Fresno, charged with felony assault[/h3] [h4]Posted by John Hunt, The Oregonian April 23, 2009 16:10PM[/h4]
Categories: Football

Cliff Harris, who is considered the top recruit in Oregon's 2009 football recruiting class, was arrested Wednesday in Fresno, Calif., and charged with felony assault of a public official.

According to media reports in Fresno, Harris' brother got into an argument at Edison High School with a police officer over his clothing and was pepper-sprayed. Cliff Harris then intervened and also was pepper-sprayed and arrested.
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The Ducks consider Harris, a four-star recruit, a good bet to play this fall. He was rated the seventh-best cornerback in the nation by rivals.com and is considered a top kick returner, too.

He was booked into the Fresno County Jail. Bail was set at $20,000 for the felony count and $10,000 for a misdemeanor charge of obstructing a public officer.

Oregon coach Chip Kelly released the following statement:

"We are aware of the allegations against Cliff Harris and are looking into the matter. We reserve any further comment until the legal process runs its course."
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STUPID IDIOT. An argument over some freaking clothes?
Cliff might have just pissed his time away at Oregon
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how is he stupid? the cop pepper sprayed his brother for no reason....i would've jumped into it too.....police officers are too damn scary these days...bunch of cowards wearing badges these days....they jump the gun when its not even that serious

Even if the cop was in the wrong, if I'm a blue chip recruit I'm not laying a finger on the cop or doing anything else that could comeclose to getting me in trouble. Seems like a lot of these kids aren't bad people but get caught in bad situations and overreact/don't think about whatwould be the best thing for themselves before they act. Why throw all that away over something as dumb as your brother arguing with a cop over clothes?
 
Originally Posted by 5am6oody72

Even if the cop was in the wrong, if I'm a blue chip recruit I'm not laying a finger on the cop or doing anything else that could come close to getting me in trouble. Seems like a lot of these kids aren't bad people but get caught in bad situations and overreact/don't think about what would be the best thing for themselves before they act. Why throw all that away over something as dumb as your brother arguing with a cop over clothes?
You really gonna stop and have that internal conversation when you see your brother being mistreated? Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, hedidn't do anything that really shows he could be trouble in the future.
 
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